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    (Original post by eternalhinch)
    All you seem to do is question my faith. My faith is strong in Allah and the Prophet Muhammed PBUH. I don't need you to question how much I know of the religion and point out that i'm ignorant. It's so much more ignorant of you to say that when you don't have a clue of how much I've studied my religion to know that i belong to it, i'm not a Muslim for no reason.
    Your very first post said you're not hating on Muslims but the religion yet you're posting hatred towards us saying we're ignorant and westernised. What the heck? Westernised for living in a western country or for having freedom of speech and the right to believe in a religion.
    You can hate all you like on Islam but at least try to do it in such a way where you're not bringing about hate because all you seem to be doing is bringing about negative energy. I don't appreciate that at all.


    Your appreciation of my energy has nothing to do with anything sister.

    I've pointed out how the religion you follow is about as peaceful as Stalin, same goes for your prophet, and yes westernised muslims are infact for the most part completely ignorant to what really Islam is the political side, all you are fed are what your Imams cherry pick and give you.

    Look I'm tired of embarrassing you here, showing of your ignorance of Islam and not being able to refute any of my arguments, I'll search for someone more knowledgeable about Islam all I can advice you, even though you would most likely reject it is that you read your Hadith's and actually study the life of that prophet you venerate and realise why me and my family converted away from Islam.
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    It's been like 10 hours and you're still typing , find a hobby or something.
    Doing God's work is my hobby.
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    (Original post by Listers)
    Doing God's work is my hobby.
    Lol you believe in god?
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    (Original post by Listers)
    Your appreciation of my energy has nothing to do with anything sister.

    I've pointed out how the religion you follow is about as peaceful as Stalin, same goes for your prophet, and yes westernised muslims are infact for the most part completely ignorant to what really Islam is the political side, all you are fed are what your Imams cherry pick and give you.

    Look I'm tired of embarrassing you here, showing of your ignorance of Islam and not being able to refute any of my arguments, I'll search for someone more knowledgeable about Islam all I can advice you, even though you would most likely reject it is that you read your Hadith's and actually study the life of that prophet you venerate and realise why me and my family converted away from Islam.
    A sign of the day of Judgement is

    - The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food. This will occur when the Muslims are large in nnumber, but "like the foam of the sea".

    Are we not experiencing this today? Yes we are. It is only you that I fear for. Pray to Allah and inshallah he will give you the guidance and knowldege to see the peace unity of Islam.
    I respect to for having your own opinion, but please don't let that dominate the exterior view and have an open mind to see my perspective. Thank you
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    Lol you believe in god?


    No I don't.

    I just said I'm doing God's work for cool points on the internet you moron.
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    (Original post by Listers)
    No I don't.

    I just said I'm doing God's work for cool points on the internet you moron.
    I got insulted online , let me go cry in a corner.

    Keep wasting your life posting drivel on a student forum for another 10 hours weeb.
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    (Original post by Fight Me)
    Lol k

    I am giving a sh*t about innocent lives being lost in all contexts, yet apparently I am being targeted for not feeling more hurt towards the loss of western lives
    No. You are being criticised for criticising people who are expressing sympathy and outrage over this attack more than over any of the hundreds of attacks in the Middle East.

    You are perfectly free to feel just as affected by a bomb in in Baghdad as by the death of your gran. Just as others are free to feel differently.
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    (Original post by eternalhinch)
    A sign of the day of Judgement is

    - The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food. This will occur when the Muslims are large in nnumber, but "like the foam of the sea".

    Are we not experiencing this today? Yes we are. It is only you that I fear for. Pray to Allah and inshallah he will give you the guidance and knowldege to see the peace unity of Islam.
    I respect to for having your own opinion, but please don't let that dominate the exterior view and have an open mind to see my perspective. Thank you


    No one is gathering against Muslims, stop acting like you're the victims when a muslim killed 50 innocent people. Just stop it.

    The only people that segregate themselves from society today are muslims. They have a problem with integrating and adapting and accepting western culture.

    I'm A Christian, I'm against homosexuality, but the last thing i'll ever do is murder people i disagree with thinking my God would reward me for taking out life I didn't create.
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    (Original post by TSR Mustafa)
    I got insulted online , let me go cry in a corner.

    Keep wasting your life posting drivel on a student forum for another 10 hours weeb.


    Alright then leave.

    "weeb"

    LOL, mega cringe.
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    (Original post by -Anonymous_Girl)
    That isn't an excuse, that's 'just the way we are', how belittling is it that the life of someone that lives closer in mileage to you is somehow more valued than the life of someone elsewhere?
    It is not "belittling" at all that we are more affected by the death of people close to us than by the deaths of strangers.

    What would be really strange would be claiming that you felt the same grief for the death of an ISIS fighter as you would for the death of your mum.
    But obviously you wouldn't. Which is what I am talking about.
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    (Original post by Listers)
    No one is gathering against Muslims, stop acting like you're the victims when a muslim killed 50 innocent people. Just stop it.

    The only people that segregate themselves from society today are muslims. They have a problem with integrating and adapting and accepting western culture.

    I'm A Christian, I'm against homosexuality, but the last thing i'll ever do is murder people i disagree with thinking my God would reward me for taking out life I didn't create.
    Honestly you will never realise what it is like to be ostracised from the western for believing in a religion that so many people are against. Not only do i empathise with anyone that has to put up with constant hate and abuse but i feel their pain...unless you have experienced it you seriously won't know. By implying the western world is suffering from Islam is sad when there have been and still are so many attrocities against Muslims that are 'oh yes' unknown of.

    I don't wish to continue this debate merely because I feel i have no liability to explain my belief to you so if you want to learn about the peacefulness actually speak to Muslims who are accepting of everyone.
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    (Original post by Listers)
    I'm A Christian, I'm against homosexuality, but the last thing i'll ever do is murder people i disagree with thinking my God would reward me for taking out life I didn't create.
    You are behaving as if ALL muslims would do the same thing .
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    (Original post by eternalhinch)
    Honestly you will never realise what it is like to be ostracised from the western for believing in a religion that so many people are against. Not only do i empathise with anyone that has to put up with constant hate and abuse but i feel their pain...unless you have experienced it you seriously won't know. By implying the western world is suffering from Islam is sad when there have been and still are so many attrocities against Muslims that are 'oh yes' unknown of.

    I don't wish to continue this debate merely because I feel i have no liability to explain my belief to you so if you want to learn about the peacefulness actually speak to Muslims who are accepting of everyone.


    I'll give my final statement and It's up to you to reply or not.

    Look, the west aren't against muslims. If they were western countries like Germany, Sweden and England wouldn't be willing to open their arms to islamic refugees and migrants, house them and feed them, sometimes at the expense of the local native European.

    It's radicals that are against the west, the ones who can't adapt and tolerate western values. The ones that can integrate, these people need to be rooted out because most muslims in the west are peacefully living with the western values Europe and america promote, but the list of the ones that don't keeps rising day by day.
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    (Original post by Listers)
    I'll go with that he isn't familiar with the Qur'an.

    Most westernised muslims can't tell the Qur'an from a phonebook
    Very true. The standard version of Islam now promulgated in the west is highly sanitised and carefully cherry-picked. Fortunately, the full version is still available in all good bookshops/internet sources.
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    (Original post by Listers)
    I'll give my final statement and It's up to you to reply or not.

    Look, the west aren't against muslims. If they were western countries like Germany, Sweden and England wouldn't be willing to open their arms to islamic refugees and migrants, house them and feed them, sometimes at the expense of the local native European.

    It's radicals that are against the west, the ones who can't adapt and tolerate western values. The ones that can integrate, these people need to be rooted out because most muslims in the west are peacefully living with the western values Europe and america promote, but the list of the ones that don't keeps rising day by day.
    I 100% agree with you. It is the radicals that promote such hatred and they are ones causing this divide but for western people to turn against all Muslims is what angers me. For such a minority to act disgustingly how can you criticise all Muslims for believing in a religion that radicals have used as an excuse to gain power? You can't.

    Let's just leave it as that, we've found some common ground..forgive me for any wrongdoings i have committed against you, your opinion is just as valid as mine.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Very true. The standard version of Islam now promulgated in the west is highly sanitised and carefully cherry-picked. Fortunately, the full version is still available in all good bookshops/internet sources.


    I'm called a racist and a bigot for just giving the unfiltered truth about Islam, yet Imams are praised for lying to their followers.



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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    I wouldn't expect anything but ad-hominems from him. That's all he seems to have to offer, and he is too scared to even do it under his main account.
    Ooh! Who is it?
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Either you are not familiar with the Quran, or you are being deliberately dishonest.

    5:32 states that "if anyone kills a soul, other than as a punishment for murder or fasad, it is as if..."

    Fasad ("mischief") covers a wide range of offences, but includes "disobeying/rejecting god's law".

    The next verse (5:33), clearly states that the punishment for those 'waging war on Allah and his messenger', and for fasad, is death.

    So we can see that the Quran explicitly permits the killing of people who have transgressed against Islamic law. So any hadith that calls for the death of prople transgressing Islamic law is not contradicting the Quran.

    Hope this has helped.
    This common misquoting of this verse by Muslims has been a thing since professional BS artist Zakir Naik came out with it once in a sermon he did. Since barely of them have even read the Qur'an themselves, they keep spouting it as some sort of evidence that Islam is the religion of peace.

    It's basically "it's bad if you kill an innocent person.......innocent being anybody who follows Islam" lol.
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    Though it's more difficult to ostracise Islamists and their ideologies, ironically due to free speech. When Anjem and his guys preach "We want Sharia", they're not breaking any laws so it is pretty difficult to stop Islamist agendas from radicalising the youngsters. Not saying ban free speech but just pointing out how it does come with its disadvantages.

    Regarding Maajid... I'm not really sure about how legitimate his foundation really is after Tommy Robinson came out and tried to expose him and whatnot, despite the fact I agree with his plans to tackle radicalisation.
    We can start by refusing clerics trained in Saudi Arabia and funding for schools and mosques coming from this barbaric country.
 
 
 
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