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    (Original post by jneill)
    Thanks for the reply!

    And just because I'm being a bit slow... so if a student takes an AS exam but then carries the subject on to the full A-level they don't cash-in the AS and don't get a certifcate for it. And therefore the AS exam isn't declared on UCAS?
    UCAS isn't my specialist subject so I'll split it into the bits I'm certain about and the bits I'm fairly sure about.
    Certain:
    1. Schools can choose whether or not to cash-in the outgoing modular AS levels in Year 12 but state schools are told by the DfE that they should.
    2. If you take Linear AS exams in Year 12 they are automatically cashed-in in Year 12,
    3. If you study the course but your school opts to miss out AS level exams and go straight to A level exams in Year 13 then you have nothing to declare.
    Fairly sure:
    You should declare all GCSE, AS and A level qualifications that have been cashed-in to UCAS. (Grey area on U grades - it used to be that you didn't but I think it changed to having to about 4 years ago?). My understanding is that universities can check your qualifications and will know if you are withholding grades. We have had students who have been rejected because they did not disclose all grades. (The only details I can remember for certain are a medical applicant for Liverpool who was rejected and the reason given was that he had not declared all his results - in this case a C at short course GCSE PE. I'm sure they wouldn't have cared about it if he had declared it, it was the dishonesty that caused him to be rejected.)
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    (Original post by Compost)
    UCAS isn't my specialist subject so I'll split it into the bits I'm certain about and the bits I'm fairly sure about.
    Certain:
    1. Schools can choose whether or not to cash-in the outgoing modular AS levels in Year 12 but state schools are told by the DfE that they should.
    2. If you take Linear AS exams in Year 12 they are automatically cashed-in in Year 12,
    3. If you study the course but your school opts to miss out AS level exams and go straight to A level exams in Year 13 then you have nothing to declare.
    Fairly sure:
    You should declare all GCSE, AS and A level qualifications that have been cashed-in on UCAS. (Grade area on U grades - it used to be that you didn't but I think it changed to having to about 4 years ago?). My understanding is that universities can check your qualifications and will know if you are withholding grades. We have had students who have been rejected because they did not disclose all grades. (The only details I can remember for certain are a medical applicant for Liverpool who was rejected and the reason given was that he had not declared all his results - in this case a C at short course GCSE PE. I'm sure they wouldn't have cared about it if he had declared it, it was the dishonesty that caused him to be rejected.)
    Ah that's great - point 1 & 2 in particular.

    And yes applicants MUST declare all qualifications. So it remains the case they must declare AS-levels (because they are cashed-in).

    The basic rule is to tell the universities everything, and leave it to them to decide what is and isn't important.

    Thanks again.
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    (Original post by jacob1371)
    are linear AS level certified? so do you get a certificate for them?
    An AS taken in a linear A level subject is still an AS qualification and still needs to be declared. There has been no change to UCAS rules that I have seen.
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    (Original post by Compost)
    UCAS isn't my specialist subject so I'll split it into the bits I'm certain about and the bits I'm fairly sure about.
    Certain:
    1. Schools can choose whether or not to cash-in the outgoing modular AS levels in Year 12 but state schools are told by the DfE that they should.
    2. If you take Linear AS exams in Year 12 they are automatically cashed-in in Year 12,
    3. If you study the course but your school opts to miss out AS level exams and go straight to A level exams in Year 13 then you have nothing to declare.
    Fairly sure:
    You should declare all GCSE, AS and A level qualifications that have been cashed-in to UCAS. (Grey area on U grades - it used to be that you didn't but I think it changed to having to about 4 years ago?). My understanding is that universities can check your qualifications and will know if you are withholding grades. We have had students who have been rejected because they did not disclose all grades. (The only details I can remember for certain are a medical applicant for Liverpool who was rejected and the reason given was that he had not declared all his results - in this case a C at short course GCSE PE. I'm sure they wouldn't have cared about it if he had declared it, it was the dishonesty that caused him to be rejected.)
    Was a smack on the wrist administered to the person/s who signed off his UCAS form? I've lost days of my life verifying qualifications.
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    So I am curious on something I am 31 and it has been a while for me since education. i thought you could only declare A*-C grades at GCSE? I have to declare if I understand things right everything above a grade U? (i got a few Ds and Es did not get U for anything)

    so if I have Average GCSE grades from 14 years ago (I missed a year of school then had to repeat it long story irrelevant to generic point) then Got BBBD with one of the Bs been in general studies then went to university and dropped out, went to university later and got a 2:1, AM I just permanently screwed for ever getting into a good university?

    do I have to declare the university I dropped out of? I think it was in 2006 not sure of exact year though?

    I mean as far as I understand I have to declare all qualifications I ever achieved, I just did not take education as serious when I was younger and I regret that but it kind of sucks to think results from 10 years ago means I will never get into a decent uni?

    is there an expiration date past which you dont have to declare eg more then 10 years ago? this sounds like I am screwed for getting into any Russel group uni?

    I mean hypothetically just starting now but If I pulled a miricle off got A*A*A* and somehow pulled of a grade 1 or better in the step papers (I want to do a maths degree) would it even be worth applying to a Russel group uni with my academic past? I mean sure if I somehow managed that one on top of a full time job I would apply to all the top courses including Cambridge

    though at this point regardless of results I fear my only chance of getting an interview at Cambridge even if i scored 100% in every module and 100% in all three step papers (I am only delusional to a certain point i know that will never happen) is for them to do the interview on stage in front of there current students as a kind of stand up comedy.

    but could i get any Russel group unis to look at me now if I do really well despite my academic past?

    edit also is it a bad idea to sit step papers in 2017? I am planning on applying after results in 2017 and plan to do this over two years so should be half way by the end of 2017. I think sitting steps and doing well will make a big difference to my chances maybe I could get into the foundation course at Manchester with a distinction and some A star graded modules (probs unrealistic) but if i do badly in step I have to declare that too? or is that a qualification or not?
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    So I am curious on something I am 31 and it has been a while for me since education. i thought you could only declare A*-C grades at GCSE? I have to declare if I understand things right everything above a grade U? (i got a few Ds and Es did not get U for anything)

    so if I have Average GCSE grades from 14 years ago (I missed a year of school then had to repeat it long story irrelevant to generic point) then Got BBBD with one of the Bs been in general studies then went to university and dropped out, went to university later and got a 2:1, AM I just permanently screwed for ever getting into a good university?

    do I have to declare the university I dropped out of? I think it was in 2006 not sure of exact year though?

    I mean as far as I understand I have to declare all qualifications I ever achieved, I just did not take education as serious when I was younger and I regret that but it kind of sucks to think results from 10 years ago means I will never get into a decent uni?

    is there an expiration date past which you dont have to declare eg more then 10 years ago? this sounds like I am screwed for getting into any Russel group uni?

    I mean hypothetically just starting now but If I pulled a miricle off got A*A*A* and somehow pulled of a grade 1 or better in the step papers (I want to do a maths degree) would it even be worth applying to a Russel group uni with my academic past? I mean sure if I somehow managed that one on top of a full time job I would apply to all the top courses including Cambridge

    though at this point regardless of results I fear my only chance of getting an interview at Cambridge even if i scored 100% in every module and 100% in all three step papers (I am only delusional to a certain point i know that will never happen) is for them to do the interview on stage in front of there current students as a kind of stand up comedy.

    but could i get any Russel group unis to look at me now if I do really well despite my academic past?

    edit also is it a bad idea to sit step papers in 2017? I am planning on applying after results in 2017 and plan to do this over two years so should be half way by the end of 2017. I think sitting steps and doing well will make a big difference to my chances maybe I could get into the foundation course at Manchester with a distinction and some A star graded modules (probs unrealistic) but if i do badly in step I have to declare that too? or is that a qualification or not?
    All qualifications must be declared and there is no expiration date, but mature students are considered on an individual basis.
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    (Original post by AdHominem)
    If one achieves the same grade twice in a subject as a result of resits then do both of those have to be declared? For instance, an A in GCSE maths in June and then again in November. Both have been certificated.
    Yes.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    All qualifications must be declared and there is no expiration date, but mature students are considered on an individual basis.
    I am not sure if the degree course i dropped out of did get a formal qualification or not i think i did but I am not sure. if I didn't get any formal qualification does that mean I can leave it off?

    yeah i guess mature students are considered on an individual basis but isn't that more for the guy that did not get any formal qualifications but has direct work experience or impressive resume elsewhere? I mean im not getting into any prestigious uni regardless of what my results come out with this time right?
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    (Original post by AdHominem)
    If one achieves the same grade twice in a subject as a result of resits then do both of those have to be declared? For instance, an A in GCSE maths in June and then again in November. Both have been certificated.
    Yes

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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    Was a smack on the wrist administered to the person/s who signed off his UCAS form? I've lost days of my life verifying qualifications.
    He'd done his GCSEs at another school making it almost impossible for us to check.
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    I am not sure if the degree course i dropped out of did get a formal qualification or not i think i did but I am not sure. if I didn't get any formal qualification does that mean I can leave it off?

    yeah i guess mature students are considered on an individual basis but isn't that more for the guy that did not get any formal qualifications but has direct work experience or impressive resume elsewhere? I mean im not getting into any prestigious uni regardless of what my results come out with this time right?
    You have to declare your previous degree course anyway, as a place of previous study since the age of 11. If you didn't get a qualification from it, then that can;t go down. (BTW have you looked at your student finance situation here?)

    No, a mature student is a mature student. You will be looked at on an individual basis whatever.
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    (Original post by Compost)
    He'd done his GCSEs at another school making it almost impossible for us to check.
    We made ours bring their certificates in.
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    (Original post by AdHominem)
    Thank you for your very detailed answers.

    I thought so. It's just that the front page wasn't particularly clear about it.
    It's all you need to know. I could write an essay about how the higher one is taken if they are different, but as yours aren't that would have been as waste of time on my part, as is this.
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    Do I have to declare a level 1 sports leadership qualification?
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    You have to declare your previous degree course anyway, as a place of previous study since the age of 11. If you didn't get a qualification from it, then that can;t go down. (BTW have you looked at your student finance situation here?)

    No, a mature student is a mature student. You will be looked at on an individual basis whatever.
    thanks I guess there is hope for me yet then I will just have to work my ass off. as for student finance yes I have already looked into it, I would get no funding or loan/ I would have to fund it myself. I have been saving but I am still short. I ran numbers and it turns out if i save up religiously and work part time whilst at uni I plus full time in the summers I would be ok. the exception is if by some miracle I happened to get into Cambridge because they charge college fees on top of the tuition fees that second time students would have to pay. plus you cannot work part time whilst at Cambridge.

    Realistically though I am never getting into Cambridge, but I have always dreamed of doing a maths degree there so if somehow i got the chance I would get the money whichever way I had to, id put myself on the game if need be.
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    thanks I guess there is hope for me yet then I will just have to work my ass off. as for student finance yes I have already looked into it, I would get no funding or loan/ I would have to fund it myself. I have been saving but I am still short. I ran numbers and it turns out if i save up religiously and work part time whilst at uni I plus full time in the summers I would be ok. the exception is if by some miracle I happened to get into Cambridge because they charge college fees on top of the tuition fees that second time students would have to pay. plus you cannot work part time whilst at Cambridge.

    Realistically though I am never getting into Cambridge, but I have always dreamed of doing a maths degree there so if somehow i got the chance I would get the money whichever way I had to, id put myself on the game if need be.
    Well, you've obviously thought it out carefully. I can't say personally that there is any degree worth going on the game for to me, but your mileage clearly differs. Good luck with it, anyway.
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    (Original post by Luke7456)
    thanks I guess there is hope for me yet then I will just have to work my ass off. as for student finance yes I have already looked into it, I would get no funding or loan/ I would have to fund it myself. I have been saving but I am still short. I ran numbers and it turns out if i save up religiously and work part time whilst at uni I plus full time in the summers I would be ok. the exception is if by some miracle I happened to get into Cambridge because they charge college fees on top of the tuition fees that second time students would have to pay. plus you cannot work part time whilst at Cambridge.

    Realistically though I am never getting into Cambridge, but I have always dreamed of doing a maths degree there so if somehow i got the chance I would get the money whichever way I had to, id put myself on the game if need be.
    If the 2nd degree is in a STEM subject and is part-time you can now get some funding.

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    (Original post by Delvine)

    Also i did my GCSEs early in year 9 and had to retake three of them in year 11, do i have to declare that and if so how would i show that.
    Thanks
    Yes you must declare ALL grades.

    I hope everyone has their answers now

    Don't all schools go through this?
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    (Original post by Muttley79)
    Yes you must declare ALL grades.

    I hope everyone has their answers now

    Don't all schools go through this?
    Not all those who hear are listening.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    We made ours bring their certificates in.
    Sadly our 6th form aren't that thorough.
 
 
 
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