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    (Original post by LordPhylogeny)
    Good luck without Warburton.

    Depending on how they structure their teams I think the teams fighting for Promotion will be: Middlesborugh, Ipswich, Blackburn, Nottingham Forest and Wolves with Derby, Brentford possibly getting a playoff spot depending on their managers.
    Hull and Derby top two.

    Boro, Burnley, QPR and Wolves in the play-offs.
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    (Original post by Scott129)
    Hull and Derby top two.

    Boro, Burnley, QPR and Wolves in the play-offs.
    The three relegated teams are barely top flight teams, Burnley have lost Danny Ings meaning they won't be able to buy a goal. QPR have some ok strikers but they are going to be doing a lot of restructuring, Hull just don't have the quality but have a good manager so could be interesting one.

    Boro and Ipswich is the only realistic top two I see occuring
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    Championship top two is always hard to call...

    So I'm calling Forest and Ipswich
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    (Original post by LordPhylogeny)
    The three relegated teams are barely top flight teams, Burnley have lost Danny Ings meaning they won't be able to buy a goal. QPR have some ok strikers but they are going to be doing a lot of restructuring, Hull just don't have the quality but have a good manager so could be interesting one.

    Boro and Ipswich is the only realistic top two I see occuring
    They were dependent on ings because vokes was injured. Barnes and boyd got a decent amount mind. You're writing off Burnley at your peril.

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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    They were dependent on ings because vokes was injured. Barnes and boyd got a decent amount mind. You're writing off Burnley at your peril.

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    You make a good point but I wouldn't say they were any better than Rhodes or Gestede at Blackburn and they were only on the outskirts of a play-off position.
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    Barnes was Burnley's unsung player last season. He'll shine in the second tier for sure.
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    (Original post by LordPhylogeny)
    You make a good point but I wouldn't say they were any better than Rhodes or Gestede at Blackburn and they were only on the outskirts of a play-off position.
    Barnes and boyd were in the premiership though, last time they were down there vokes got plenty, and besides their defence is their strength - keep Heaton and I'd back them for the title

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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    Barnes and boyd were in the premiership though, last time they were down there vokes got plenty, and besides their defence is their strength - keep Heaton and I'd back them for the title

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    I see where you are coming from and maybe I am looking at them from a premiership point of view and I really rate Dyche as a manger so it could happen. I don't know I just found a lot of their run to 2nd Place kind of lucky when they were in the Championship last time. Eh, I could be wrong?
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    (Original post by LordPhylogeny)
    I see where you are coming from and maybe I am looking at them from a premiership point of view and I really rate Dyche as a manger so it could happen. I don't know I just found a lot of their run to 2nd Place kind of lucky when they were in the Championship last time. Eh, I could be wrong?
    Lucky? They were solid and well deserving of being best of the rest. Consistent and impressive. I don't like dyche but there's no denying they were excellent in the championship in 13/14

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    (Original post by hskjlclcn)
    No point "what iffing" with a blue nose. It's just the most recent and painful example of a point dropped.
    Ok 6 game loss streak 0/18 pts

    Loss against us =0/3 i think there is a slight difference

    I find it amusing we wrecked yours and Derbys seasons. Silence the DDB
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    (Original post by DarrenBCFC)
    Ok 6 game loss streak 0/18 pts

    Loss against us =0/3 i think there is a slight difference

    I find it amusing we wrecked yours and Derbys seasons. Silence the DDB
    You make me look happy as Larry with some of your posts and that takes some doing.


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    (Original post by DarrenBCFC)
    Ok 6 game loss streak 0/18 pts

    Loss against us =0/3 i think there is a slight difference

    I find it amusing we wrecked yours and Derbys seasons. Silence the DDB
    I don't think you understand my point..
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    (Original post by LordPhylogeny)
    The three relegated teams are barely top flight teams, Burnley have lost Danny Ings meaning they won't be able to buy a goal. QPR have some ok strikers but they are going to be doing a lot of restructuring, Hull just don't have the quality but have a good manager so could be interesting one.

    Boro and Ipswich is the only realistic top two I see occuring
    Ipswich ahead of Derby... OK, mate.

    In fact, your whole post is full of crap. Burnley have a fantastic defence so expect lots of 1-0s. QPR still have a ton of quality throughout the team and a hell of a lot of financial muscle and Hull have arguably one of the best squads on paper in this league - Dawson, Huddlestone, Brady, Robertson, Jelavic, etc.
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    (Original post by DarrenBCFC)
    Ok 6 game loss streak 0/18 pts

    Loss against us =0/3 i think there is a slight difference

    I find it amusing we wrecked yours and Derbys seasons. Silence the DDB
    You wrecked our season as much as any other team who we failed to take 3 points off so you can't really take credit for that.

    Reading, on the other hand, can.
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    Boro & Bournemouth dropped 6 points to us, Norwich, Derby & Ipswich also dropped 3 points to us.

    We dropped 3 points to Wigan & 2 points to whipping boys Blackpool

    Basically, the championship is too long & too tough to be flawless & it's impossible to pinpoint a teams failure on one particular defeat.
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Barnes was Burnley's unsung player last season. He'll shine in the second tier for sure.
    ACL tear. He'll be lucky to get 90 minutes next season
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    (Original post by TornadoGR4)
    Basically, the championship is too long & too tough to be flawless & it's impossible to pinpoint a teams failure on one particular defeat.
    Absolutely. It is notoriously the toughest league to get out of. It's a 46-game trough.
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    (Original post by Scott129)
    Ipswich ahead of Derby... OK, mate.

    In fact, your whole post is full of crap. Burnley have a fantastic defence so expect lots of 1-0s. QPR still have a ton of quality throughout the team and a hell of a lot of financial muscle and Hull have arguably one of the best squads on paper in this league - Dawson, Huddlestone, Brady, Robertson, Jelavic, etc.
    He does have a point on QPR, aren't they due to pay a huge fine for cheating their way up in the first place?


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    (Original post by Midlander)
    He does have a point on QPR, aren't they due to pay a huge fine for cheating their way up in the first place?


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    They're due a huge fine for overspending, but Fernandes seems confident of beating it in court, and british football authorities aren't known for their spine, so expect nothing to happen.

    Can't agree with the strong squad claims though - good individual players perhaps but that's all they are, and haemorrhaging their good players this summer (Austin, caulker and fer won't be there come August, I'd put money on that, and they've just released 10) - massive rebuilding job there, I can see them doing what Fulham have


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    McClaren to Newcastle will be imminent now, I assume, given that Stone and Carver have finally been allowed to leave. He's a braver man than me, that's for sure.
 
 
 
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