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    Some people really do see the Greens as a serious party. Of course, if they're to be more successful then some of their policies need to be toned down, so they really do need a sensible, pragmatic leader to oversee such changes - that person is Caroline Lucas.

    I commend Natalie Bennett for her leadership of the Green Party. Although public speaking isn't really her thing, she did lead the party into electoral gains.
    Are we thinking of the same Caroline Lucas?

    And some people do take them seriously, but people also take Britain first, the BNP and SNP seriously.

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    Until Corbyn can get Labour sorted out, the Greens remain the only party in parliament with a legitimate economic plan...
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    (Original post by cBay)
    Until Corbyn can get Labour sorted out, the Greens remain the only party in parliament with a legitimate economic plan...
    If you define unsustainable deficit spending as legitimate

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    If you define unsustainable deficit spending as legitimate

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    The Green Party plan was to have the deficit down to £21bn by 2019 (and to continue to fall after that), which is probably similar to what it will be at with Osbourne when he realises that there isn't much more spending he can cut without there also being an equivalent reduction in revenue or committing electoral suicide.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    The Green Party plan was to have the deficit down to £21bn by 2019 (and to continue to fall after that), which is probably similar to what it will be at with Osbourne when he realises that there isn't much more spending he can cut without there also being an equivalent reduction in revenue or committing electoral suicide.
    But we both know that saying you plan to do x with the economy by doing y won't do exactaly what you want it to do. I assume the greens argued their policies would have no adverse effects and only positive ones and didn't factor in any adverse effects?

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    Germany is making a sex manual for their migrants. I thought the problem was that they're having too much sex, not that they aren't having enough.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are we thinking of the same Caroline Lucas?

    And some people do take them seriously, but people also take Britain first, the BNP and SNP seriously.

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    I don't see how Britain First and the BNP could be compared to the SNP and Greens! The SNP and the Greens aren't extremist or neo-Nazi...
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I don't see how Britain First and the BNP could be compared to the SNP and Greens! The SNP and the Greens aren't extremist or neo-Nazi...
    The greens aren't extremist? Are the socialists also not extremists? And you don't have to be an extremist to not be taken seriously, look at Cameron.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The greens aren't extremist? Are the socialists also not extremists? And you don't have to be an extremist to not be taken seriously, look at Cameron.

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    Extremist: "a person who holds extreme political or religious views, especially one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme action."

    The Greens political platform may be radical (but only when compared to the neoliberal consensus of the last few decades, take out that context and their platform is very rational), but it's a bit of stretch to call them extremists... unless the tories decide to make protesting illegal of course.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    Extremist: "a person who holds extreme political or religious views, especially one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme action."

    The Greens political platform may be radical (but only when compared to the neoliberal consensus of the last few decades, take out that context and their platform is very rational), but it's a bit of stretch to call them extremists... unless the tories decide to make protesting illegal of course.
    You highlighting the especially statement as if to suggest that it is a necessary condition.

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    You highlighting the especially statement as if to suggest that it is a necessary condition.

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    It pretty much is, I don't see how a party can be labelled as extreme unless they advocate infringing on peoples human rights, no matter what their economic platform is.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    It pretty much is, I don't see how a party can be labelled as extreme unless they advocate infringing on peoples human rights, no matter what their economic platform is.
    I guess it's time to get the dictionary back out

    Especially: to a great extent; very much.

    A lot of synonyms given too, oddly necessary (needed to be done, achieved, or present; essential.) isn't one of them

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    The Greens' political position is no more extreme than the Tories'.

    Edit: also, going a few pages back, anything can be made fun of. Jokes are obviously not to be taken seriously. There is no such thing as 'something you just don't joke about'.
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    The Greens' political position is no more extreme than the Tories'.

    Edit: also, going a few pages back, anything can be made fun of. Jokes are obviously not to be taken seriously. There is no such thing as 'something you just don't joke about'.
    Yea pretty much this.

    Also pretty much this edit.
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    Why is it unsurprising that everybody found it difficult to find a labour mp willing to attack the Tories over their battle bus not being declared on local constituency spending declarations? Why, because they were doing the exact same thing.

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    Why is it unsurprising that everybody found it difficult to find a labour mp willing to attack the Tories over their battle bus not being declared on local constituency spending declarations? Why, because they were doing the exact same thing.

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    Well obviously, they don't call each other out because they quite like their cosy little two party system. This is nothing new, it's been happening for decades with both parties.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    Well obviously, they don't call each other out because they quite like their cosy little two party system. This is nothing new, it's been happening for decades with both parties.
    If they don't call each other out why do they call each other out? And are you suggesting that doing what is expected, I.e. attacking each other over things, would collapse the system?

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