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OMG :mad:

I rarely swear, but apparently I'm avoiding the swear filter. WTF!?
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(Original post by Mad Vlad)
Not without being warned, it can't.
What if it was in someone's signature, and the swear word was hidden by using a font colour which matches the background, would there be a way to detect it?
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(Original post by Hasan)
What if it was in someone's signature, and the swear word was hidden by using a font colour which matches the background, would there be a way to detect it?
if someone were to highlight your sig they could see it and you'd still be warned for it :p:


Swearing being censored doesn't bother me, if you really can't say a sentence without needing to swear then there isn't much point writing the sentence :s:
I wouldn't be able to get on here at school if it was uncensored and it wouldn't have made a good impression when I first joined for there to be swearing everywhere :no:

There was a reason for not being to turn the swear filter on/off yourself in another of these thread but I'm having no luck finding it :o:
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(Original post by jpye11)
What is up with the swear filter on this site????

Correct me if I'm wrong but I assume most students are 18+ or at least 16+... So surely we can handle modern language?



Yeah???
I'm 13 and I'd support a button that turns the swear filter off, or on. I'd love to swear in the HOC. I can show my true feelings about things :p:
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The swear filter as it is can't be turned off - the words are stored in their censored form (and any other system would use up vast system resources).

(And if you're unable to make a comprehensible post without swearing then I worry for you).
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(Original post by there's too much love)
All I know is **** ******* ******** ****** **** **** ****** ***** ***** ******-***** ******* ***** **** ******* ******** ****** **** **** ****** ***** ***** *********** ******* ********* ******* ******** ****** **** **** ****** ***** ***** ******-***** ******* ********* ******* ******** ****** **** **** ****** ***** ***** ******-***** ******* *****, amongst over swear words/phrases are censored.
There are only 12 words in the filter :p:

(Original post by G50)
Why not make it optional? Kids can keep it on if it means that'll allow them to surf TSR at school...
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...9&postcount=32
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One of the problems with the swear filter is it can make you look like you're accusing someone of being something worse than you are - for example I once intended on calling someone a twit (a instead of the i) but the swear filter made it look only like **** which in the context probably looked like 'the c word.'

Also, I'm not at all convinced by the 'you shouldn't need to swear, there are other words'. So? I want to used swear words, it conveys my feelings better than other words. (Thats not to say I disagree with the swear filter, I don't. It's just a general observation about that particualr line of thought.)
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(Original post by - skyhigh -)
There are only 12 words in the filter :p:


http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...9&postcount=32
however one word can be used in so many ways, f can be fing, fed, so on so forth, fing cings, fing c wer ss, so on so forth.
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(Original post by Mr_Deeds)
Isn't it more about having the choice? I think he meant that if a kid doesn't want to see the swear words then he/she can choose to have them filtered; maybe that could be the "default setting" and then for those who couldn't care less they could just switch the filter off. Makes sense; a lot of the mod's time is probably wasted warning members who swear and if it doesn't actually offend anybody then it's kind of pointless.
That would do nothing for one of the main reasons for filtering some words in the first place though.

If a school hasn't blocked the site and one kid comes along and uses the site with the filter turned off, then the school could suddenly detect all the swearing and pick up on the site and block it for everyone else at the school, even if dozens of people were happily using it with the swearing turned off. It just wouldn't work even if it was something desirable.
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(Original post by RK)
That would do nothing for one of the main reasons for filtering some words in the first place though.

If a school hasn't blocked the site and one kid comes along and uses the site with the filter turned off, then the school could suddenly detect all the swearing and pick up on the site and block it for everyone else at the school, even if dozens of people were happily using it with the swearing turned off. It just wouldn't work even if it was something desirable.
That's fair enough and I agree that if somebody can't string together a sentence without swearing then they should go elsewhere anyway. But, most high schools block this site regardless of the swear filter and for a whole host of other reasons. Not least because, bizarrely, TSR allows people to use words like "piss" and "shag" but also because it's targeted only at persons aged 12 years or over and children start comprehensive school at the age of 11.

A lot of the mods spend a lot of time warning those who try to circumvent the filter or binning or editing posts with sensitive content. It just seems a bit futile if the only reason for their doing so is to allow school children to access this site in the 1% of schools who haven't already blocked it anyway. A filter which can be turned on and off would safeguard those who are easily offended and also free up the mods time to do other more valuable work. Failing that, surely the filter should have a more comprehensive list of swear words - if schools are likely to ban a site for using the "sh" word surely they'll ban it for using words like "shag" too? I do understand and agree with the swear filter in principle though.
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I'm guessing non of these kids in secondary school go around mowing down prostitutes on GTA whilst listening to 50 Cent followed by a quick tug over porn. Nah that's not the youth of today.
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I swear I saw some posts recently which had the "s" word uncensored
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(Original post by Hasan)
I swear I saw some posts recently which had the "s" word uncensored
Report them :yes:
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Report them :yes:
Ah, I just realised it was posted in the back room, my bad :o:
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Ah, I just realised it was posted in the back room, my bad :o:
:hahaha I've almost reported email addresses/swear words in places where they are allowed too :p:
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I find it a bit odd that even the PM has its own swear filter. I just swear away on here because that's my idiolect, forgetting it'll just come up in stars.
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If the words are censored because of school filtering then why is it against the rules to avoid the swear filter by turning them into words that a filtering system wouldn't pick up?
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(Original post by Mr_Deeds)
That's fair enough and I agree that if somebody can't string together a sentence without swearing then they should go elsewhere anyway. But, most high schools block this site regardless of the swear filter and for a whole host of other reasons. Not least because, bizarrely, TSR allows people to use words like "piss" and "shag" but also because it's targeted only at persons aged 12 years or over and children start comprehensive school at the age of 11.

A lot of the mods spend a lot of time warning those who try to circumvent the filter or binning or editing posts with sensitive content. It just seems a bit futile if the only reason for their doing so is to allow school children to access this site in the 1% of schools who haven't already blocked it anyway. A filter which can be turned on and off would safeguard those who are easily offended and also free up the mods time to do other more valuable work. Failing that, surely the filter should have a more comprehensive list of swear words - if schools are likely to ban a site for using the "sh" word surely they'll ban it for using words like "shag" too? I do understand and agree with the swear filter in principle though.
i think swearing is an honest and truthful way that many students talk so why is a filter used? used correctly the words are effective in many ways and are some of the most diverse words in the english language and its hardly as if the words aren't floating about in everyday life. in an area where opinion and debate are pivotal points censorship of any degree seems petty
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(Original post by vinylmatt)
i think swearing is an honest and truthful way that many students talk so why is a filter used? used correctly the words are effective in many ways and are some of the most diverse words in the english language and its hardly as if the words aren't floating about in everyday life. in an area where opinion and debate are pivotal points censorship of any degree seems petty
This is a student forum with, theoretically, members as young as 12 years of age. Whilst it would be unrealistic to suggest that 12 year-olds have never been exposed to swear words, it would be frowned upon for TSR to accommodate that sort of thing. I don't agree that swear words are "effective" or in any way "diverse" and most people use them in a derogatory way; in that respect, they're not really favourable to anybody here regardless of their age.

My exception with the swear filter is more the fact that TSR finds it acceptable for members to use words such as "piss", "shag" and "*******" but not relatively mild ones like "sh*t". If we're going to have a swear filter for the above reasons then surely it should be more comprehensive than it is now? Similarly, I don't agree that it should be justified because it allows students to access the site in school - most block it anyway; not least because the swear filter isn't comprehensive enough, but also because of the sensitive nature of forums like "sexual health", etc. :yep:

My argument is that more swear words should be added to the swear filter or it should just be scrapped altogether - to save mod's time and free up space which is wasted on threads like this one.
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(Original post by Mr_Deeds)
This is a student forum with, theoretically, members as young as 12 years of age. Whilst it would be unrealistic to suggest that 12 year-olds have never been exposed to swear words, it would be frowned upon for TSR to accommodate that sort of thing. I don't agree that swear words are "effective" or in any way "diverse" and most people use them in a derogatory way; in that respect, they're not really favourable to anybody here regardless of their age.

My exception with the swear filter is more the fact that TSR finds it acceptable for members to use words such as "piss", "shag" and "*******" but not relatively mild ones like "sh*t". If we're going to have a swear filter for the above reasons then surely it should be more comprehensive than it is now? Similarly, I don't agree that it should be justified because it allows students to access the site in school - most block it anyway; not least because the swear filter isn't comprehensive enough, but also because of the sensitive nature of forums like "sexual health", etc. :yep:

My argument is that more swear words should be added to the swear filter or it should just be scrapped altogether - to save mod's time and free up space which is wasted on threads like this one.
haha okay i agree that it should include all profanities or just scrap the system (although i think it should scrap the system).

i still maintain that swear words are diverse. The words ****, ******, ****** and ******* have such a spectrum of uses that i can't think of another single word that can replace it, although i would say swearing to a severe degree does act to deteriorate language.

other than that i suppose i agree with you
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