Adebayor given two FA Charges Watch

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(Original post by Isometrix)
mate, van persie and adebayor both celebrated their goals towards the opposition's fans. it's not adebayor's fault that the arsenal fans reacted badly and almost caused a mini riot. van persie did the same thing (even worse cos he started swearing at the city fans), but the city fans handled it in a civilised manner (well at least the majority of them). conveniently, this didn't get as much television attention. my point is, the severity of the situation depended on how the fans reacted. both players did the same thing (in principle), but one is being blamed more than the other.
One player celebrated in the corner where he scored the goal the other ran the whole length on the field.

Any fan is going to react naturally more to the later, the 1st instance happens every week when a goal is scored by the away team at the home end
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Ok, it may just be me, but I actually think he didn't do the stamp on purpose.

Bear in mind that I don't have any idea who he is, because I dont follow club football so there's no bias from me. I saw the video on the news, and it looked like a mistake - so I think his punishment is harsh.
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I have to say.... after reading the statements released by both Van Persie and Fabregas that it seems the two of them are ecstatic at seeing the back of Adebayor, even before his antics in the City/Arsenal match. What he did during the match seemed to me to be revenge... no-one in their right minds would try to seriously harm someone who was in their team. (And also, in the build up to Adebayor's silly foul, Van Persie did slide in recklessly from behind.)

There was almost certainly some sort've conflict between Van Persie and Adebayor whilst they were in the same team.

My bet is - despite being Dutch myself and rating him highly - that Van Persie is arrogant and holds himself in high esteem. Fabregas and Van Persie most likely consider themselves to be the 'best'. Adebayor didn't like that, and he was most likely equally arrogant. The majority of the team sided with Van Persie and Fabregas, and that upset Adebayor...
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Ye, RVP is a play nice to the camera, nasty peice of work behind the scenes kind of guy.
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Mark Hughes says Manchester City declined to contest Emmanuel Adebayor's violent conduct charge because there was no point without a personal hearing. "I looked into his eyes when he told me he didn't mean to do it and I believed him," Hughes said. "You don't have the chance to do that with an appeal."

It's a point of view, though one feels the FA were correct to base their verdict on some fairly damning television footage. It is a moot point whether Adebayor was trying to stamp on Robin van Persie's arm or his face, but he certainly wasn't trying to get out of the way.

Hughes is on firmer ground defending the other charge against his striker, the trumped-up one over the goal celebration, which struck some commentators as the most heinous offence since Eric Cantona went into the Crystal Palace crowd feet-first, and others as a trivial misdemeanour for which he could consider himself unlucky to be booked.

Since Adebayor was booked, surely that should be the end of the matter. It is one thing to punish a player retrospectively for an offence the referee did not see, another can of worms entirely to impose justice after the event for an issue already dealt with by the match official.

Whatever the wisdom of Adebayor's entertainingly daft 80m sprint to give the Arsenal supporters a better view of his unbridled joy, he did it in full sight of the referee and everyone else in the stadium, stayed within the confines of the pitch and did not hurt anyone. It was the Arsenal fans who did that and, for all anyone knows, missiles may well have been thrown had the goal been scored at their end to give Adebayor a more legitimate reason to celebrate under their noses. So, in charging Adebayor with improper conduct, the FA could once more be about to make themselves look ridiculous.

"We can only bring additional charges in the most exceptional cases and only if it can be proved beyond doubt that the actions were a deliberate attempt to injure" was what they had to say on the subject last year, after Chris Morgan's elbow had fractured Iain Hume's skull.

This stance, in itself, was at variance with the £5,000 fine Gary Neville picked up in 2006 just for letting Liverpool supporters know he was delighted with a last-minute Manchester United winner. The FA seem to have one set of rules for players who upset the sensitive souls on the terraces and another for serious transgressions that break the bones and threaten the careers of fellow professionals. Andy D'Urso's yellow card was deemed sufficient to cover the foul that hospitalised Barnsley's Hume in the game at Oakwell, which still seems ludicrous, though nowhere near as barmy as now deciding a knee slide is somehow worse.

That's the whole trouble with retrospective justice and probably why Uefa conveniently washed its hands of the Eduardo diving business in the end. Unless you can be retrospectively consistent, grievances simply multiply. Instant justice is hard enough to dispense – and it was noticeable Uefa's experiment with two additional referee's assistants did not clear up to everyone's satisfaction the penalty area controversy in the Everton versus AEK Athens game.

David Moyes was disappointed the extra scrutineer managed to miss the original foul to which Louis Saha retaliated and, while players who raise their hands do not really have a defence against being dismissed, the glaring anomaly no one seems to be worried about is that the term 'violent conduct' loses all meaning when Saha has the same automatic three-match ban as Adebayor – one for a mild reaction against a defender who milked the situation, the other for a deliberate stamp on a defenceless opponent.

Neville complained that the FA seemed to want a game played by robots when he reluctantly handed over his money three years ago and it does appear, particularly when there is any sort of interaction with the crowd, that footballers are being asked to be calmer and more sensible than is humanly possible. This is not necessarily to fall for Hughes's defence that Adebayor is an "emotional guy caught up in an emotional moment" or to suggest players are entitled to wind up opposing spectators. Just to point out that, at the moment, the balance is somewhat skewed, with supporters allowed to wind up players and demonstrate their emotional incontinence to their hearts' content.


Nothing was ever done about the crude terrace taunts Neville had to put up with for years, but the moment he kissed his badge in a show of defiance he was in trouble. If no action can be taken about the paedophile chants aimed at Arsène Wenger or the elephant songs aired in Adebayor's honour, how can scoring a goal and celebrating in the other half of the pitch be deemed improper?

It is not, after all, as though there is any shortage of improper conduct within the game for the authorities to look at. Dodgy takeovers, child-trafficking, unscrupulous agents and the other usual suspects are still out there, though clearly they do not compare in severity to a provocative goal celebration. Footballer in error of judgement shock. Footballer makes himself look a bit of a plonker. Footballer finds himself easy target, more like.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...celebration-fa

A very good article about all of this to be fair to the Guardian guy.
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The celebration: Frankly, no one can complain. Arsenal fans were taunting him non-stop, he'd clearly been unhappy at Arsenal and he was venting frustration. He's got an attitude but the fans stirred it.
The stamp: Completely undecided. On the one hand, Van Persie made a poor challenge to start with and I wasn't COMPLETELY convinced of Adebayor's intent to create an injury. On the other hand, Adebayor was clearly embittered against Arsenal and I wouldn't be surprised if he did come out and say he meant to do it - not that any footballer ever would.
I think Adebayor and Man City can feel a bit hard done by. Adebayor probably could have made a difference in the derby that followed and we know how central a big striker is to Hughes' plans. But Adebayor was naive to do all what he did and stamping on someone is COMPLETELY inexcusable. Foul play needs kicking out of football.
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