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    Conservatives
    63
    64.95%
    Labour
    13
    13.40%
    Lib Dems
    21
    21.65%

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    (Original post by ukmaxi)
    Well true, some argue thatcher was more of a liberal than a tory..... But I don't like her anyway, and well mainly its due to the fact people are scarred of socialism, they relate it too much to communism.

    Thats why the image is different, the only difference really was the alteration of clause 4 of the labour party.

    well I say only difference, it had a major impact on how the party worked... But I wouldn't say its a thatcheristic government, she would have never ever had a national minimum wage introduced for one example... Plus its annoyingly difficult to try and renationalise.... Some people will obviously disagree with me, but If we have a nationalised industry we are stronger as a country, economically through trade. and are self sufficient when at times of global trouble. Whilst trying to help others. The problem is in the 70's Labour were too soft on letting the Unions striking every 2 seconds, which is why labour had to change to shake that image off... That people feared of.... Now as a result we have a bloody over capitalised banking system....
    How stupid are you? Do you really not understand the concept of the state being inefficient?

    Helping others? I'd rather they helped themselves instead of p*****g around through school....
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    I'm voting conservative because im working class and the sun told me so
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    and your benefit payments, obviously...
    :rolleyes: No, I'm upper middle class. Family income of ~£60,000 a year, enough savings for my parents to retire now and not worry about money even with two teenage children still living with them. By your reasoning I should embrace the conservatives :rolleyes: I dislike the conservatives because I don't believe their fiscal policies will work and believe David Cameron to be a liar and socially conservative (and if Cameron himself is not drastically socially conservative, then his cabinet of old boys from eton certainly will be).

    *neg*
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    (Original post by Gesar)
    I dislike the conservatives because I don't believe their fiscal policies will work
    Oh yes, if someone's credit card bill comes through and they can't afford it, they should spend more on the card.... :rolleyes:


    (Original post by Gesar)
    and believe David Cameron to be a liar and socially conservative
    Because Cameron promised a referendum and then backed down?


    (Original post by Gesar)
    (and if Cameron himself is not drastically socially conservative, then his cabinet of old boys from eton certainly will be).
    Care to explain why going to Eton is something to hold against someone? Jealous?

    I'd rather old-boys from Eton, who's families have descended from the greatest Britain has to offer, than a bunch of ex trade union leaders jealous of southerners with money....


    (Original post by Gesar)
    *neg*
    Oh no, im absolutely crying now....
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    Oh yes, if someone's credit card bill comes through and they can't afford it, they should spend more on the card.... :rolleyes:
    The fact we had such a strong economy beforehand gave us the prerogative to spend a lot. I see it like kick-starting a bike. You have a lot of energy so you pedal like hell for the first minute then sit back and recoup while everything runs by smoothly.

    Because Cameron promised a referendum and then backed down?
    That doesn't bother me. And I'm sure the masses are too ignorant to have let it been a deciding factor in who they voted for, as well.

    Care to explain why going to Eton is something to hold against someone? Jealous?

    I'd rather old-boys from Eton, who's families have descended from the greatest Britain has to offer, than a bunch of ex trade union leaders jealous of southerners with money....
    I have lots of friends from Eton. They themselves say they would hate to see the country run by Etonians, again. Why is old money more trustworthy than new money? New money shows enterprise, intelligence, hard work and success. Old money shows the ability to dodge taxes.


    Oh no, im absolutely crying now....
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    Oh, I think it's going to be interesting. People don't want Labour, and they certainly don't want Brown ... but, when push comes to shove, I don't think they want Cameron and his Tories either. The Lib Dems and other minor parties aren't strong enough, so people aren't going to want to vote for those...

    I think it'll have a very low turn-out, and be very close, close enough that I can't call it.
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    Over a quarter of people think the lib dems will win the GE, are you all high or something?

    This poll isn't who you WANT to win ...
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    How stupid are you? Do you really not understand the concept of the state being inefficient?

    Helping others? I'd rather they helped themselves instead of p*****g around through school....
    If you are going to come back at me with something. Please let it be something of worth.... You don't back up anything you say... "How stupid are you?"

    ....at least I gave an explanation to my beliefs, intelligence has nothing to do with this....

    Also what context are we talking about the state not being inefficient?.... Do you mean the inefficiency of the government itself..... Or are you talking about the inefficiency of nationalised industry etc....

    Please be specific...
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    I thinks it will be the Cons- but only with a moderate working majority- not the super one enjoyed by Llafur in 97.

    Ill be voting Plaid- hopefully gaining the seat off the Libs.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    Well, I question exactly how much quasi-regional results matter, even when the devolved areas now have their own peculiar systems too. It is, after all, a national election and - even if the Labour Party or the SNP were to hoover up Scotland on a landslide, it wouldn't mean diddily squat except for its (relatively small) impact on the national scene.

    Personally I think Labour will probably overtake the SNP - on both popular vote and (probably disproportionately) in terms of seats. The Nats will make gains, as they start off from a pretty low level, and will undoubtedly overtake the Lib Dems as the second party in Scotland - indeed, the Lib Dems will almost certainly drop to 4th place from 2005.

    Due to the fairly peculiar 2005 results, I suspect Scotland will be quite interesting in 2010.

    If the Scottish Tories took second place north of the border - which is possible if difficult - I think that would be a rather grand-scale victory - although of course it would only be rolling the clock back to 1992.
    A quick point - regional results do matter. If the Conservatives fail to win a majority by...say, 20 seats and the SNP have 20+ seats, then we can wield a large degree of influence. Obviously we won't form a Conservative-Nationalist Coalition (I think that is against our rules), but we could drive concessions from them on an issue-by-issue basis.
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    Nobody who loves their country would vote Labour.
    Lib Dems are too wishy-washy and don't really convince me.
    That leaves Conservatives for me, the best of a bad bunch.
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    Who would I want to win: None of the above
    Who will win : New Conservatives
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    I think the most likely outcome is a hung parliament with the Conservatives as the largest party or a very slim Conservative majority (<50, probably closer to 30). I'll be campaigning for the Conservatives, even though I hate David Cameron.
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    A few comments

    1. 20 people who voted think the Lib Dems will win. You all need to wake up. They have not won in around a century.

    2. AtlasDrugged, convenient that you post your hung parliament idea now [see number 3]

    3. Lord Heseltine recently stated that a hung parliament is likely
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    I've thought it would be a hung parliament (or a much narrower victory than the majority were predicting, at any rate) for a long time now. When Brown was being pilloried daily in the press over various scandals earlier this year I bet a friend a fiver that he would stay on, despite popular opinion suggesting otherwise. I'm not just parroting Heseltine, thanks for the assumption though.
 
 
 
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