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    Dentists on average don't earn more than doctors, it is the orthodontists that earn more than doctors as most of what they do is private...eg. £3000 for braces, typical surgery will have around 150 new people a year, profit on each patient is probbably around £1000-1500, thats £225000 profit by the sugery on braces alone...but obviously you have to pay staff, bills, (rent?), etc. So if you own the surgery, you end up with a nice 6 figure salary, whilst the other orthodontists will probbably get high 5 figure salaries...and they don't work unsocial hours or slave around....ps. this is for private orthodontists
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    (Original post by brokenangel)
    Most dentists do purelly private work, most doctors do atleast some NHS work. If you can find a doctor doing purelly private work then im sure he would be earning the same as the average dentist if not slightly more. I.e its most likely better to compare USA doctors earning to our dentists as that is a similar system to dental care in this country
    Yeah that's rubbish.

    There isn't enough people in the U.K who pay for private treatment for them to pay dentists.

    You will find some purely private dental specialists but I think you are drastically overestimating that number.

    Most dentist earn their bread and butter carrying out treatment on the NHS. :yes: To suggest otherwise simply denies basic sense.
    Not every dentist will do private work (salaried community/hospital dentists) and even if the average GDP was inclined, the bulk of their treatment would still be done on the NHS.
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    (Original post by Lofty)
    because of Steven Gately.
    You're going to have to elaborate
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    (Original post by hypocriticaljap)
    The average GP salary is £140,000
    The maximum GP salary is £80,354.

    http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details...lt.aspx?Id=553

    (Original post by hypocriticaljap)
    Incredible!
    If ever a group have screwed the taxpayer it is the BMA.
    If you're going to talk about, I presume, the GP payment negotiations from 2007 you really ought to understand what happened, you may also want to put it in the context of previous and subsequent pay reviews and the changes within the profession during thiis period. You might also want to look into QOF points and the way money follows these. You might also want to look at the BMAs work (or lack thereof) in other areas of medicine such as consultant pay, junior doctor pay and conditions and MMC.

    If that sounds like a bit too much work, perhaps you should consider shutting the **** up because you're talking out of your arse.
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    (Original post by Woody.)
    Why shouldn't they earn more than doctors? Policemen, firemen and even, arguably, you could say that lollipop ladies save lives, but they are paid pittance. More lives you save =/= amount of pay.
    Firemen get the same as an SHO. A probationary policeman gets the same as an houseman. Lollipop ladies do however get slightly more screwed over...
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    (Original post by Woody.)
    Why shouldn't they earn more than doctors? Policemen, firemen and even, arguably, you could say that lollipop ladies save lives, but they are paid pittance. More lives you save =/= amount of pay.
    I agree.
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    I guess because they usually have their own surgeries, there are perhaps more Dentists doing private treatments and there are less of them around? I don't know really, but just some suggestions from the little I do know.

    Dentistry probably needs that higher wage to attract more people to become Dentists because let's be honest it's not quite as exciting as being a Doctor. And I know being a Doctor isn't really that exciting either but it is better than being a Dentist in terms of the the amount of people you meet and the things you see. For example Dentists might see a deformed tooth or a fang as the highlight of their day. A Doctor might see a bulb up somebody's ass. A generalisation maybe but you do see more interesting things as a Doctor. Or so I'm told.
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    I thought because there are less dentists than doctors?
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    (Original post by Woody.)
    Why shouldn't they earn more than doctors? Policemen, firemen and even, arguably, you could say that lollipop ladies save lives, but they are paid pittance. More lives you save =/= amount of pay.
    Because dentists don't have to work as long hours as doctors. Their working conditions are better too. They don't have to do on call. They *rarely* have to deal with the stress of a patient dying on them.

    There are numerous reasons why I think doctors should earn more than dentists.
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    (Original post by Sarky)
    Because they have to buy all those little mirrors and pointy things. They cost bare bucks you know.
    :laughing:

    I've never heard anyone on TSR say 'bare...'.

    You ma'am, have earned some rep.
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    (Original post by hypocriticaljap)


    The average GP salary is £140,000
    :no:
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    Supply and Demand
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    I know the reasons (NHS v. private etc) but it's still an odd concept to me; in America, while both well-paid, doctors are typically much better compensated than dentists.
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    (Original post by hypocriticaljap)

    The average GP salary is £140,000
    Can I ask where that figure came from as I looked into a medical degree and the GP salary I saw andwas quoted put me off..?
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    (Original post by The-Serial-Kisser)
    Dentistry also has the highest suicide rate among any profession. I guess looking at teeth all day long makes them suicidal!!
    nah its because they know they are never gona be real doctors :p:
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    (Original post by RollerBall)
    Because dentists don't have to work as long hours as doctors. Their working conditions are better too. They don't have to do on call.
    However a lot do go on call. At the practice my Mum works at (private and a partnership) someone is always on call, including xmas day etc.
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    (Original post by music102)
    Well why i would like some reasons please.......

    Also i hear dentists earn more so just out of interest how much to dentists earn and how much do doctors earn?
    Dentist's are the shizz!
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    (Original post by Tinsley)
    Can I ask where that figure came from as I looked into a medical degree and the GP salary I saw andwas quoted put me off..?
    Most probably the Daily Mail :shifty:
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    (Original post by Renal)
    The maximum GP salary is £80,354.

    http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details...lt.aspx?Id=553
    you do know the difference between a partner and a salaried gp dont you? partners, earn 50% more than that, and sometimes upto 3x as much if they are a dispensing practice.
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    (Original post by RollerBall)
    Because dentists don't have to work as long hours as doctors. Their working conditions are better too. They don't have to do on call. They *rarely* have to deal with the stress of a patient dying on them.

    There are numerous reasons why I think doctors should earn more than dentists.
    Many people working in business have to work more hours than doctors do. A friend of mine works in a law firm and has been coming back home at about 2am after a full day, and then needs to get up at 6am. I know this will also hold true for doctors some of the time, but I'm trying to illustrate that hours aren't everything either. Conditions are subjective, there are bad hospitals, I imagine there are bad dental practices too. Using my previous example, firemen have to be on call along with other emergency services and dealing with people dying is something you were fully aware of when you chose a career in medicine, I don't see why you should be paid more for something you know will happen.

    Really, my point is, if you want to become a doctor, become a doctor. It doesn't matter that dentists earn more, unless you are looking for a profession that just gets you loaded. People earn hundreds of thousands for running around a pitch for 90 minutes, the way people are paid isn't exactly fair but if you really want to be a doctor it shouldn't really have an influence.
 
 
 
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