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    (Original post by Singhz)
    Maybe YOUR ancestors should not have colonised their land and stole their riches in the first place? And also then have the nerve to ‘invite’ them to live, work and fight for Britain.. maybe this is payback time???? lol in the form of benefits as the 'EDL' are claiming...
    Oh, are we playing the futile blame game?
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    Oh, are we playing the futile blame game?
    yes baby! we are indeed.
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    Well this is childish.
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    (Original post by Singhz)
    Maybe YOUR ancestors should not have colonised their land and stole their riches in the first place?maybe this is payback time????
    I'm sorry - what is this?

    I do not care what someone 100 years ago chose to do - I don't and I presume much of the EDL - don't see why we should have our culture undermined and our nationhood assailed under the guise of what you're presenting as revenge for something I didn't even do?

    Under UN law - every nation and people on this earth are entitled to the principle self-determination. Mass immigration subverts this. You're claiming that this is okay, that British people are not entitled to live in their own culture - because of something done under the same flag, before many people alive today were even born?
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    (Original post by Rule Britannia)
    Benito Mussolini was a fascist, Hitler - like I said - was a national socialist. Nazi is a contraction of the term national socialist. Get your facts right. The only fascists worshipping Hitler are misguided souls, as are the people labelling socialists fascists.

    How is my interpretation strange?

    Hitler wasn't gassing people in Auschwitz in 1939 was he? Claiming that's why we went to war is just bizarre - it didn't even happen then!

    We went to war because of German expansionism and a desire to maintain the balance of power in Europe* - war was declared because of Germany's attack on Poland. This is pure fact. Your historical revisionism is highly simplistic and downright false. It is a lie.

    *You will find this is a cause that the British has been involved in for over 600 years on the continent. Unfortunately it is not romantic enough for an age ruled by ideologies.
    haha..these 'misguided souls' that worship Hitler are in fact the EDL..lol
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    (Original post by Singhz)
    In your view my interpretation of history may very well be strange, but to me your interpretation Is even stranger.

    P.S. HITLER was a FASCIST! AND IS LITERALLY WORSHIPPED BY FASCISTS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WHAT HE WAS? HOLY MOLY AND SCREW SIDEWAYS WITH A CACTUS

    and here was me thinking he was a nazi - well your capital letter statement has sure fixed me straight
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    (Original post by Singhz)
    haha..these 'misguided souls' that worship Hitler are in fact the EDL..lol
    No they are not. The EDL has clearly espoused beliefs regarding Islamic extremism. Opposing extremists from another culture that live in your country but want to kill and convert you and your family is not fascism or worshipping Hitler. The fact is extremists should be deported immediately - why are you skirting the issue?

    Islamic extremists have no place in Britain or British society. Demanding that the government act and get rid of these people does not make anyone or any organisation Fascists or Hitler worshippers. Stop being so puerile.
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    TBH the EDL and UAF just sound like people who are up for a punch-up at any and every opportunity.
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    (Original post by Rule Britannia)
    I'm sorry - what is this?

    I do not care what someone 100 years ago chose to do - I don't and I presume much of the EDL - don't see why we should have our culture undermined and our nationhood assailed under the guise of what you're presenting as revenge for something I didn't even do?

    Under UN law - every nation and people on this earth are entitled to the principle self-determination. Mass immigration subverts this. You're claiming that this is okay, that British people are not entitled to live in their own culture - because of something done under the same flag, before many people alive today were even born?
    So why should i suffer for something that have not done? eh? why should my future generation suffer>? because of the acts of others..i am not even Muslim for Gods sake..just because i am Asian i should suffer? As ive explained this has become an excuse for racial rioting...use your head!
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    (Original post by Tefhel)
    TBH the EDL and UAF just sound like people who are up for a punch-up at any and every opportunity.
    Yup, this is a picture of some "protesters" the UAF stirred up in Birmingham a few weeks ago.



    I don't think the EDL are saints either but the EDL are protesting against a cause, the UAF just turn up to pick a fight with the EDL. UAF doesn't protest positively, they are reactionaries.
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    (Original post by Rule Britannia)
    No they are not. The EDL has clearly espoused beliefs regarding Islamic extremism. Opposing extremists from another culture that live in your country but want to kill and convert you and your family is not fascism or worshipping Hitler. The fact is extremists should be deported immediately - why are you skirting the issue?

    Islamic extremists have no place in Britain or British society. Demanding that the government act and get rid of these people does not make anyone or any organisation Fascists or Hitler worshippers. Stop being so puerile.
    are you a retard? i saw this with my own EYES!!! they were making Nazi salutes to each other and shouting racial abuse at ME!!! later they were shouting who the f*** is Allah..and this is the 'EDL'..the so called 'ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE'...lol many of them arent even pure 'English' breed.
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    (Original post by Singhz)
    So why should i suffer for something that have not done? eh? why should my future generation suffer>? because of the acts of others..i am not even Muslim for Gods sake..just because i am Asian i should suffer? As ive explained this has become an excuse for racial rioting...use your head!
    Sorry what?

    How are you suffering exactly? I'm very confused. The EDL protest against Islamic extremists. If you're not an Islamic extremist I seriously fail to understand how you're suffering because of the EDL.

    You're just trying to pretend the EDL have a sinister agenda and stand for things that they never claim. Personally, I think the EDL should be treated on the basis of what it talks about and what action it wants taken. I haven't heard the EDL demand the deportation of Asians - only of Islamic extremists.
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    (Original post by Rule Britannia)
    Yup, this is a picture of some "protesters" the UAF stirred up in Birmingham a few weeks ago.



    I don't think the EDL are saints either but the EDL are protesting against a cause, the UAF just turn up to pick a fight with the EDL. UAF doesn't protest positively, they are reactionaries.
    these are not protesters at all! they are not part of the UAF at all. These are just people standing up for their rights and beliefs..watever they be.
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    (Original post by Singhz)
    are you a retard? i saw this with my own EYES!!! they were making Nazi salutes to each other and shouting racial abuse at ME!!! later they were shouting who the f*** is Allah..and this is the 'EDL'..the so called 'ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE'...lol many of them arent even pure 'English' breed.
    So you were there with UAF protesting against the EDL protest and wondering why they were hurling abuse? If you're hanging around with UAF it's fair to assume you're a Muslim to be honest because they are the only ones that would have a problem with a crack-down on Islamic extremists. If you're not a Muslim then your presence there doesn't make any sense at all.
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    (Original post by Rule Britannia)
    Yup, this is a picture of some "protesters" the UAF stirred up in Birmingham a few weeks ago.

    I don't think the EDL are saints either but the EDL are protesting against a cause, the UAF just turn up to pick a fight with the EDL. UAF doesn't protest positively, they are reactionaries.
    Yeah the EDL are British chavs/hooligans, the UAF are Muslim chavs/hooligans.
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    The police should've let both sides at each other, 1 casualty on either side means the world's a ****** short.
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    The BNP and the EDL are ridiculous. If they really want to protest against the changing social demographics of Britain then they need to lose their thuggish exterior and form a party people will actually vote for. Until then, enjoy the police kettling you for your own safety.
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    (Original post by Nick_000)
    The BNP and the EDL are ridiculous. If they really want to protest against the changing social demographics of Britain then they need to lose their thuggish exterior and form a party people will actually vote for. Until then, enjoy the police kettling you for your own safety.
    Two European MEPs belong to a certain BNP...clearly a lot of people are voting for them.

    For the record I have never voted for the BNP and probably never will.
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    (Original post by Rule Britannia)
    So you were there with UAF protesting against the EDL protest and wondering why they were hurling abuse? If you're hanging around with UAF it's fair to assume you're a Muslim to be honest because they are the only ones that would have a problem with a crack-down on Islamic extremists. If you're not a Muslim then your presence there doesn't make any sense at all.
    WHERE in Gods name did i put i was protesting with the UAF? Do you have issues reading? I was there minding my own business on my way to work!! Something that the EDL SCUM have never probably heard of..and just because i was 'BROWN' i was hurdled with abuse!!! I SHALL SAY THIS AGAIN THIS IS NOT A PROTEST AGAINST ISLAMIC EXTREMIST LIKE IT MAY HAVE SET OUT TO BE, IT IS A PROTEST FOR RACIAL HATRED!
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    (Original post by Tefhel)
    Yeah the EDL are British chavs/hooligans, the UAF are Muslim chavs/hooligans.


    Not really most of them were white Europeans, hoping to spread the message of peace and acceptance.
 
 
 
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