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    (Original post by Syron)
    Adium's a no-go for me, as is the official Messenger, and aMSN I can't get to work at all. Web-based messengers like meebo or iLoveIM work fine though, so I guess I'll use one of those.
    All that applies for me too, aMSN kept just crashing and trying to reopen. :s
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    (Original post by Ars Ludicra)
    This might be a really stupid question, hence why I don't fancy contacting the IT guys in college about it, but are we allowed to use MSN messenger on the University network? I've been stuck in my room for days with Swine flu (I know, fantastic Freshers' Week ) and I could really do with talking to some friends from home.

    If it is permitted (I've scoured the OUCS website and I haven't seen anything to say it isn't) then does anybody have an idea why mine is very obstinately not working? And how to make it work? I promise Rep (pitiful though it is) and a drink if I ever meet whoever solves this for me.
    Two easy solutions!
    1) Install the VPN client off'f the OUCS website, and register it. The VPN client isn't useful in most situations, but you can use it to get at course materials while at home, and you need it to make programs like Steam and (in my case, and probably yours) MSN work.
    2) Get Digsby. http://www.digsby.com/ Useful alternative client which doesn't have as many functions as MSN (and its file transfers are awfully, awfully slow) but on the upside will work without the VPN, and can do Facebook chat too, making that considerably less painful.

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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)
    Two easy solutions!
    1) Install the VPN client off'f the OUCS website, and register it. The VPN client isn't useful in most situations, but you can use it to get at course materials while at home, and you need it to make programs like Steam and (in my case, and probably yours) MSN work.
    2) Get Digsby. http://www.digsby.com/ Useful alternative client which doesn't have as many functions as MSN (and its file transfers are awfully, awfully slow) but on the upside will work without the VPN, and can do Facebook chat too, making that considerably less painful.

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    Ahh, you genius, the VPN worked. Without a doubt you get rep. And, seeing as you're at the best college in Oxford, I think you get a drink too - you may have to wait until I'm not contagious though.
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    Not trying to put a damper on things, but they may take a dim view of someone using VPN to use Steam (presuming it's Steam for gaming), as it's still using the uni network for it.
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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)
    Two easy solutions!
    1) Install the VPN client off'f the OUCS website, and register it. The VPN client isn't useful in most situations, but you can use it to get at course materials while at home, and you need it to make programs like Steam and (in my case, and probably yours) MSN work.
    2) Get Digsby. http://www.digsby.com/ Useful alternative client which doesn't have as many functions as MSN (and its file transfers are awfully, awfully slow) but on the upside will work without the VPN, and can do Facebook chat too, making that considerably less painful.

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    The VPN solution worked perfectly for me too, thanks!
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    (Original post by swiftuk)
    Not trying to put a damper on things, but they may take a dim view of someone using VPN to use Steam (presuming it's Steam for gaming), as it's still using the uni network for it.
    Not seen any repercussions yet, despite buying (and thus downloading, although not all at once, that would probably raise eyebrows) the Unreal Anthology last term. Most of the time you only need the internet to log into Steam - the games run off your computer unless you're going multiplayer. I haven't seen them complain at doing that either (playing Exteel didn't incur any consequences), or playing in-browser games like Runescape, which a couple of my friends are into.

    Sure, if you went to the guy who wrote the IT contract and said "I used your internet to download UT3/watch dozens of shows on iPlayer/procrastinate massively", he'd probably be fairly annoyed. In practice though, it doesn't really matter. I wouldn't put it past them to have a monitor or firewall in place that catches porn sites, although I doubt there's even one of those, as they never work properly and I've not experienced interference in any of the things I've used the internet for while I'm here.
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    Maybe try using msn via a website (such as here) if Messenger isn't working? So long as it's allowed of course :ninja:
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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)
    Not seen any repercussions yet, despite buying (and thus downloading, although not all at once, that would probably raise eyebrows) the Unreal Anthology last term. Most of the time you only need the internet to log into Steam - the games run off your computer unless you're going multiplayer. I haven't seen them complain at doing that either (playing Exteel didn't incur any consequences), or playing in-browser games like Runescape, which a couple of my friends are into.

    Sure, if you went to the guy who wrote the IT contract and said "I used your internet to download UT3/watch dozens of shows on iPlayer/procrastinate massively", he'd probably be fairly annoyed. In practice though, it doesn't really matter. I wouldn't put it past them to have a monitor or firewall in place that catches porn sites, although I doubt there's even one of those, as they never work properly and I've not experienced interference in any of the things I've used the internet for while I'm here.
    I guess to each their own

    I asked about VPN use when I first got here (need to access data held at a different university, so access their VPN), and they did respond that they do run bandwidth monitoring if VPN connections are hogging the connection, as it could be seen as a way of contravening College regulations. I guess as long as people aren't doing it to contravene College/uni/JANET regs, then there's nothing to worry about.
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    (Original post by Andy the Anarchist)
    We have MSN allowed, and skype, but not spotify. :mad:

    There goes my free music supply.
    We're not allowed spotify, iplayer or any other catch up service.

    I'm currently spotifying phantom of the opera, and I fully intend to watch stuff on iplayer. EVERYONE (student-wise) in college is like "yeah, it's fine, as long as you're not ridiculous with your bandwidth"
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    (Original post by Bezzler)
    EVERYONE (student-wise) in college is like "yeah, it's fine, as long as you're not ridiculous with your bandwidth"
    That's pretty much most of New's stance on the matter... I think they only sit up and take notice if you start downloading, and I quote, "several gigabytes a day". At the other end of the scale, though, Merton are more restrictive, with a download limit (2GB a week IIRC? Anybody from Merton want to verify this?) and a firewall-type thing that blocks certain sites, like the one your school probably had. I hate those.
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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)
    That's pretty much most of New's stance on the matter... I think they only sit up and take notice if you start downloading, and I quote, "several gigabytes a day". At the other end of the scale, though, Merton are more restrictive, with a download limit (2GB a week IIRC? Anybody from Merton want to verify this?) and a firewall-type thing that blocks certain sites, like the one your school probably had. I hate those.
    Not quite. :p:
    You will receive a warning notice:
    • If you go over the high bandwidth use of 2GB or close to this on consecutive days, or on a regular basis.
    • If you are logged within a 24 hour period with use between 2.5GB - 4GB.
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    Haha, no, it's 2GB a day basically, though they're lenient if you go over that occasionally. And 2GB is HUGE, that'd be like...three hours of video or something. So no, Merton aren't at all strict.
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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)
    That's pretty much most of New's stance on the matter... I think they only sit up and take notice if you start downloading, and I quote, "several gigabytes a day". At the other end of the scale, though, Merton are more restrictive, with a download limit (2GB a week IIRC? Anybody from Merton want to verify this?) and a firewall-type thing that blocks certain sites, like the one your school probably had. I hate those.
    I promise I did sit through the IT talk but my understanding was frankly embarrassing. So is Spotify a no no at New? Something tells me it may be P2P. :cool:
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    Basically, Ars Ludicra, everything not university related is a no-no, although you are allowed the occasional social or recreational break.
    Peer-2-Peer downloads like bittorrent or bitlord, are a DEFINATE NO. (You will probably get punished for that)

    However, it seems IT people are either a) never at their office b) not at all strict, so go ahead and do whatever you want to do, just don't overdo it.

    In catz I've seen people play Facebook Farmville in the JCR computer room :P Some people watch television programs from the channel websites, etc etc.
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    (Original post by Roundabout)
    Not quite. :p:
    Ah, that's it then, never mind. 2GB isn't always *that* large though... a show on iPlayer or 40D will be about 500MB and downloading large files (say, mods for a game) can quite easily shoot you close to that.

    (Original post by Ars Ludicra)
    I promise I did sit through the IT talk but my understanding was frankly embarrassing. So is Spotify a no no at New? Something tells me it may be P2P. :cool:
    Spotify certainly isn't peer-to-peer. iPlayer is, but only the downloader, and the internet here's fast enough that you can watch stuff in the browser without any major problems.
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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)


    Spotify certainly isn't peer-to-peer. iPlayer is, but only the downloader, and the internet here's fast enough that you can watch stuff in the browser without any major problems.
    According to Spotify's website, it is http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/t...widget_spotify

    (and explicitly banned by some Colleges).
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    (Original post by swiftuk)
    According to Spotify's website, it is http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/t...widget_spotify

    (and explicitly banned by some Colleges).
    Ye gods. I assumed it was central-server-type-stuff. We can use it here at New though. St Peter's allow it too, although I'm not sure about anyone else.
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    (Original post by Son of Makuta)
    Ye gods. I assumed it was central-server-type-stuff. We can use it here at New though. St Peter's allow it too, although I'm not sure about anyone else.
    It's allowed? That's all I need to know.
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    I forget whether I said this already, but if you're using spotify it's best to set the cache to as high as possible to avoid using too much bandwidth (i.e. so that you're not downloading songs several times) I've never heard of anyone being told off for using spotify though.
 
 
 
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