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jismith1989
The PostSecret quote in your signature is from Plato. Just thought I'd tell you, in case you didn't know and were interested. :biggrin: It's a good maxim.


I knows it :yes: but thanks anyway :smile: xx
Reply 21
Being financially secure allows somebody to enjoy their life.
Reply 22
Organ
Being financially secure allows somebody to enjoy their life.


Providing you subscribe to societal constraints.
Reply 23
Organ
Being financially secure allows somebody to enjoy their life.



financially secure isn´t actually rich
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Reply 25
Dystopian91
Providing you subscribe to societal constraints.


Yeah I stopped having existential crises a while back.

DanMey
financially secure isn´t actually rich


I didn't say it was, I want a reasonably well paid and secure job - worrying about money and bills isn't how I want to spend my life.
Dystopian91
Define the word. That's the problem in society. I could be the happiest street cleaner in the world.


Successful:
Excelling in the career i've always wanted since I was a kid. (Scriptwriter/Director of my own work in theatre) - able to do this for a living without having any other jobs on the side.
Exploring the world.
Having a group of friends whom I love and adore.
Settling down- getting married, have kids, etc.
Financially secure + a little bit extra for a rainy day, and when I say 'a little bit' I actually mean quite a lot. :wink:
A lovely house in a nice area and a nice car.
:smile:
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Umbrella.Girl
Successful:
Excelling in the career i've always wanted since I was a kid. (Scriptwriter/Director of my own work in theatre)
Exploring the world.
Having a group of friends whom I love and adore.
Settling down- getting married, have kids, etc.
Financially secure + a little bit extra for a rainy day. :wink:
A lovely house in a nice area and a nice car.
:smile:


Now do you see what I'm getting at?

We are conditioned by society to achive this, it's bull****. Society invents the hoops and you must jump through them in order to be happy. You don't really need all that to be happy and a successful human being.
Reply 28
I'd hate more to be an anti-lad.
I'm 20, from a working class single parent family and I'm still gonna buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

I don't care about material possessions, I just want to live in a safe place and not worry about being attacked coming home from work and not worry how I'm going to pay the bills or pay for my MA. I've been working class since the day I was born and if someone gave me a million quid I'd get my family, pack my bags, leave this city and find a better life. Why would I want to stay in **** hole just because I'm too proud to take money? That's madness. For me it's nothing to do with desiring wealth/money for stupid reasons like having an extravagant lifestyle - I just want a peaceful life, I don't want to live in this place all my life and it seems like the only way out is money.
School always told us it was education which would get us out but even that costs money which people where I live don't have.

Tbh I hate class snobs - working class people looking down on middle class people for having/wanting money is just as bad as middle class people looking down on the working class for not having any.
We don't get to choose who we're born to -it was pure chance that I was born in a working class city to working class parents and it was pure chance that Prince William was born into money. We shouldn't put people down for things they never asked for/had no control over.
Dystopian91
Now do you see what I'm getting at?

We are conditioned by society to achive this, it's bull****. Society invents the hoops and you must jump through them in order to be happy. You don't really need all that to be happy and a successful human being.


I would usually think that you're happier if you have decent enough surroundings. So as long as I didn't live in an area that was riddled with crime, litter, abandoned properties then I would be happy.

I'm really glad that you've found what you need to be happy, but why tell a person who obviously has figured out his dreams and push him down saying "stop conforming to society, it's all b.s". People are different, people gauge happiness differently and thus satisfy their happiness in different ways. Please don't sound like you're acting like you're better than those who wish something different, because it will just make you sound childish.
Reply 31
Nah, I'd love to be rich.

Lots of money would be nice.
lara_ox
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This.
Reply 33
sil3nt_cha0s
This.


I know you all worship, are obliged to and need money - That's the point.
I like money..

I wouldn't hate to be rich if I worked for it.
Reply 35
I'd love to be rich. But there are some whacky things I'd like to buy, and there are always worthwhile charities.
Reply 36
Dystopian91
Now do you see what I'm getting at?

We are conditioned by society to achive this, it's bull****. Society invents the hoops and you must jump through them in order to be happy. You don't really need all that to be happy and a successful human being.


You're trying to tell people what success is. No one is "conditioned" by society to achieve anything, in fact the society we live in seems to dictate that being rich wrong, which you are demonstrating now. Being rich might not make you happy, but it does make me happy.

I could never be happy living in a small house, driving a rubbish car and having to save up every year to go on holiday, so for me being rich actually does make me happy, is that wrong?

And on top of that, you seem to have assumed that being rich automatically means you're not a nice person and you're incapable of enjoying the other aspects of life, such as family and friends. It is not just a choice between being rich and being happy, it is possible to have both.
Reply 37
qpr91
You're trying to tell people what success is. No one is "conditioned" by society to achieve anything, in fact the society we live in seems to dictate that being rich wrong, which you are demonstrating now. Being rich might not make you happy, but it does make me happy.

I could never be happy living in a small house, driving a rubbish car and having to save up every year to go on holiday, so for me being rich actually does make me happy, is that wrong?


Small and rubbish "things".

Right.
Dystopian91
Now do you see what I'm getting at?

We are conditioned by society to achive this, it's bull****. Society invents the hoops and you must jump through them in order to be happy. You don't really need all that to be happy and a successful human being.


But how about those out there who genuinely want to achieve the things I listed?

Money, unfortunately is the key out of poverty and I'd hate to think I'd be depriving my family of essential things like I've had to do.
Food, clothes and shelter costs money.
And yes, I want a family as I want to grow old with someone I love and have children with him- I would say that that wish is more of a biological one as opposed to a sociological one.

Achieving the dream i've had since a kid doesn't mean that I have been 'conditioned by society'. Writing is something I enjoy and therefore I would love to think that I could be doing something I loved for the rest of my life without having to worry about working part time in my local Tesco in order to pay off my mortgage.

I admit, I don't need the money 'for a rainy day', nice car and nice house in a nice area to provide happiness, but they offer some sort of stability in life... and they're reliable :ninja:

I personally feel that friends, family and an enjoyable and rewarding career contributes to a person's wellbeing.
Somebody who has a sh*t job, no friends, no family, no money and a constant worry about not paying their bills on time doesn't really seem to me to be a happy person.
Reply 39
How can you possibly say such a statement without actually being "rich"?

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