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A job where you have only a small number of people in a similar role. So basically people high up in whatever industry they work in. So not just 'doctors and lawyers lulz' because there's lots of them.
Indeed. Especially as "lawyer" can mean anything from legal executive, solicitor working in local government, solicitor in a MC firm or barrister. So, in salary terms, around 27k - 150k+.

I wouldn't call a job paying just over the national average, of which there are thousands and thousands others, as being elite. No more than a teacher.

I'm only bumping this thread because I'm interested to see if anyone mentions engineer (or a kind of scientist).
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one that gets you over £50k
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I'm biased but I think teachers, because they inspire children to want to do better and encourage them to learn and push themselves, without good teachers there wouldn't be very many people getting into elite jobs.
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One where thousands of people know your name without you ever having met them.
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I'm only bumping this thread because I'm interested to see if anyone mentions engineer (or a kind of scientist).
Doubt it, as the word 'engineer' is used so loosely in this country. Most people don't know what a genuine engineer, who has a degree, actually does. They don't realise that it's an academic discipline.
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Ninja Warrior
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assassin
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Airline pilot?
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Doubt it, as the word 'engineer' is used so loosely in this country. Most people don't know what a genuine engineer, who has a degree, actually does. They don't realise that it's an academic discipline.
That's my point.

Even those who do have a fair idea about what it is probably don't care much as engineering and science is often dismissed or not valued.

Says the person with a Philosophy and Politics degree and all arts A-levels :p:
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super villain/sherlock holmes
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That's my point.

Even those who do have a fair idea about what it is probably don't care much as engineering and science is often dismissed or not valued.

Says the person with a Philosophy and Politics degree and all arts A-levels :p:
are other engineers fake? or just worth less?
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Babysitter, bramble-picker, et cetera.
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King/Queen/President and such
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rocket scientist/brain surgeon
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A job where you have only a small number of people in a similar role. So basically people high up in whatever industry they work in. So not just 'doctors and lawyers lulz' because there's lots of them.
For PJ991 reply, I'd say you'd be looking at consultant (if not senior consultant/leading person in field) level for Medicine. That's definitely an `elite` job, no question...
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are other engineers fake? or just worth less?
What do you mean, "other engineers"? If you mean a gas boiler techician, a plumber or a mechanic then these aren't engineers and, in most other developed countries, they'd be breaking the law by using the term.

This doesn't mean I value a boiler techincian less than I do an engineer as I certainly don't. I have even less chance of being a good boiler techincian than I have a "real" engineer and for this reason, and the importance of the job, I respect it.
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What do you mean, "other engineers"? If you mean a gas boiler techician, a plumber or a mechanic then these aren't engineers and, in most other developed countries, they'd be breaking the law by using the term.

This doesn't mean I value a boiler techincian less than I do an engineer as I certainly don't. I have even less chance of being a good boiler techincian than I have a "real" engineer and for this reason, and the importance of the job, I respect it.
en·gi·neer (nj-nîr)
n.
1. One who is trained or professionally engaged in a branch of engineering.
2. One who operates an engine.
3. One who skillfully or shrewdly manages an enterprise.


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en·gi·neer (nj-nîr)
n.
1. One who is trained or professionally engaged in a branch of engineering.
2. One who operates an engine.
3. One who skillfully or shrewdly manages an enterprise.


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Yes, that is simply because engineer is not a professionally protected term.

An engineer is a professional who is practiced in the field of engineering. Engineering is "applying advanced scientific and mathematical principles to practical ends such as the design, manufacture, and operation of efficient and economical structures, machines, processes, and systems".

But I really don't see the problem. You asked me if I thought they were less worthy and I don't. I'm not being a snob, I'm not saying people who are, say, boiler technicians are not worthwhile. They certainly are. They perform a valuable job and one which can sometimes demand a higher salary than an engineer.

It's just that science and engineering in particular has a very bad image in this country. The term is misused so much that people have become confused and don't know what engineering really is. This is not a good thing for our scientific heritage and progress and, as a result, it needs to be a protected term. Just like it is in many other developed countries.
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