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    Me and Tarquin will be there, literally causing a bit of revolution, its so cool standing up for the rights of the poor people and that kind of thing. Daddy said he used to do the same when he was at Brasenose in the 1960s, protesting against atom bombs and all that. It reminds me, of this thing on my gap yah, when I was literally in Burma, and saw this protest against the government, there were these protestors who were literally being peaceful, and then the police just came and started opening fire on them, it was the most awesome thing I've ever seen, they were falling down like dominoes, women children and all sorts, I was like "random!" and then I just chundered everywhere! I'd been on the lash before the protest. National Geographic took a photo and thought it would be literally an iconic photograph that this awesome violence had made me chunder, I didn't tell them that it was more likely the imported Russian vodka that had such a kick in it!

    Anyway, if anybody wants to like literally meet up before the protest, to talk about tactics and have a few drinkypoos beforehand, send me a message on facey b, or text my iphone, I think this protest is gonna be rather mega don't you think! Oh yeah - and any police standing below tall buildings, don't look up, it's gonna be raining CHUNDER EVERYWHARR
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    If the protest is carried out peacefully then yes I will come and think its a good idea, if its not and the violence and damage of the last two protests are repeated(yes I know that many others did peaceful protests but lets be honest, everyone will always focus on the bad rather than the good) then its a stupid idea and I hope those people that smash up public property get arrested and possibly removed from further education. Especially that person who threw a fire extinguisher, he was lucky he didnt kill someone
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    I agree. I really dont know how anyone who is at uni actually has time to go to these protests anyway. Isn't this like the 3rd or fourth one now?

    The problem is that by doing this, you're giving ALL students a bad name.
    Agreed. But I think the majority aren't university students. The only people I know who have gone are 16 year olds who will get hit by the rise. I know for a fact that they don't know anything about politics or economics, all they know is they have to pay more and don't want to. The people that are protesting aren't thinking.
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    Does anyone find it ironic that these idiots are rioting for the very thing they are meant to be saving YET are missing lectures, seminars even studying?

    What exactly is the riots over? I don't know. I don't see anything wrong with Lord Browne's proposals which are going to be implemented by the coalition.
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    (Original post by Ruthi-SH)
    If the protest is carried out peacefully then yes I will come and think its a good idea, if its not and the violence and damage of the last two protests are repeated(yes I know that many others did peaceful protests but lets be honest, everyone will always focus on the bad rather than the good) then its a stupid idea and I hope those people that smash up public property get arrested and possibly removed from further education. Especially that person who threw a fire extinguisher, he was lucky he didnt kill someone
    He's shot himself in the foot really, I can't see any university wanting to take him now. :rolleyes: What an idiot. Most of the people havent even considered that if they get caught they'll most likely end up with a criminal record which will possibly exclude them from university or certain jobs in the future.
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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    Does anyone find it ironic that these idiots are rioting for the very thing they are meant to be saving YET are missing lectures, seminars even studying?

    What exactly is the riots over? I don't know. I don't see anything wrong with Lord Browne's proposals which are going to be implemented by the coalition.
    Completely agree with you. These people have far too much time on their hands.
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    The fact that more people have said "not attending" than "attending" says it all, really.
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    I think the NUS and whatever unoins are orgnising this should be forced to contribute towards the policing and clean up bill
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    It will be very cold outside, wrap up warm.
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    (Original post by tbm)
    Completely agree with you. These people have far too much time on their hands.
    Agree with you.
    I am studying at the moment, I barely have a social life.
    How do these people find the time to riot?
    Will the country grind to a halt because a few long haired dirty Labourites are missing lectures? NO. But there will be concerns raised when these pigs threaten people's lives, damage public property, assault police officers etc...
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    I think the NUS and whatever unoins are orgnising this should be forced to contribute towards the policing and clean up bill
    I think they should as well. Hope there is some sort of movement towards this. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill?
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    (Original post by Linweth)
    These protests are getting annoying now.
    I am getting really fed up with so called anarchists trashing public property and attacking the police when on a march to try and persuade the government and the british population to pay for our university education (anyone else spot the irony!) when most people have not had the option of going to university and are scared of losing their jobs, homes etc. Students are coming off really badly as spoilt, lazy, ignorant morons who want a free ride.
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    (Original post by aeonflux)
    If the older generation aren't willing to contribute towards my education after they benefited from free state education themselves, I don't see why I should be willing to contribute towards their healthcare or pensions when I graduate and am a higher-rate tax payer thanks to my degree.

    It works both ways.

    Thankfully, I believe a lot of taxpayers are not too selfish to sympathise with students.
    However only the best of them went to university - the problem is the state can't afford to send everyone to uni when basically anyone can go (while I won't disclose my grades/uni, I definatly shouldn't have to be going. In fact, unis should be keeping me back with a long pole).

    If you want free education then many universities should revert to poly's and only the top students should go.

    Otherwise this system is best, those who benefit from a degree help invest in the education of those who follow them, they enable the unis to expand allowing more students etc.

    Problem is there are too many students for the state to pay everyones way.

    I believe that A-Levels should be enough to make available a majority of career options and that a degree should be only for the very best. I also believe that people should be able to 'collect' a qualification from their career path over time.
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    you are correct on all counts.

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    What do you mean 'older generation?' Plenty of young people pay tax too, including myself, and I paid for my university education.

    Also, these are not peaceful protests. I am sure there must be much better ways of getting the message across that doesnt involve trashing offices and police vans, hurting police officers and putting people in danger. Yes, you must be really proud of yourselves. :rolleyes: You're not exactly helping things, are you.
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    (Original post by tbm)
    He's shot himself in the foot really, I can't see any university wanting to take him now. :rolleyes: What an idiot. Most of the people havent even considered that if they get caught they'll most likely end up with a criminal record which will possibly exclude them from university or certain jobs in the future.
    Have they caught the fire extinguisher guy then?

    edit: a quick Google search has answered my question :facepalm:
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    The protesters have no political support you realise? Ed miliband may be banging on about socialism and how bad a fee rise is yet is going to bring in a Grad tax if he is elected that will put students in a far worse postion
    I'm very aware of that fact. I am not and have never been a Labour supporter, nor am I a socialist. The fact that I criticise the current governments policies does not mean I think Labour are any better. And that is the precise reason students have taken to the streets - they have been betrayed by all the major political parties - firstly Labour, now the Lib Dems.

    Higher fees or a grad tax are not the only options available.
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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    I think they should as well. Hope there is some sort of movement towards this. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill?
    I agree maybe we should launch a counter movement and start by encouraging all students current and future with at least half a brain cell to forget about these demonstrations and concentrate on their expensive education which we should be paying for as per the Browne report.
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    (Original post by tbm)
    What do you mean 'older generation?' Plenty of young people pay tax too, including myself, and I paid for my university education.
    So do I, as do many current students. We have as much say as to how its spent as everyone else, which is why students have every right to protest.

    Also, these are not peaceful protests. I am sure there must be much better ways of getting the message across that doesnt involve trashing offices and police vans, hurting police officers and putting people in danger. Yes, you must be really proud of yourselves. :rolleyes: You're not exactly helping things, are you.
    I don't know why you're turning this into some kind of ad hominem attack on me, where did I say I was even involved in the protests let alone any violent elements?

    All I will say is that many people don't consider a few broken windows and a couple of bruised police officers as big a deal as a generation burdened with a lifetimes worth of debt.
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    (Original post by the_13th)
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    Don't mind the word "peaceful" - it's gonna be hot there!
    Give it up OP, seriously. The Government won't change it's mind, all it will do is just cause more damage to the cause because without fail these protests have (and will) degenerate into bad behaviour. It's getting tiresome now.
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      ****ing hippies. All those arrested should be named and shamed by the police, be thrown out of any university they attend and be blacklisted from attending any if they haven't already got in.

      If this continues, we will very likely end up with heightened security, if not curfews and a very slim possibility of martial law in parts of London. You bolshy layabouts will be to blame, and the tabloids will tear you open. Is that what you want?

      And no, I don't think I'm being sensationalist or over the top here either.
     
     
     
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