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    (Original post by thedan22)
    coming from ireland i dont know much about the competition for these courses...are they hard to get into??
    Hi,
    I'm also from Ireland and didn't realise how early the closing date was. I'm still sending in my app to uni's that have vacancies but I'm holding out little hope. I will be much more organised next year.
    Where are you applying to?
    Also if it's of any relevance to you, Liverpool Hope aren't considering anymore applications so it would be a waste of a choice to put them down.
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    Well it would be the secondary PGCE Biology/Science i would be applying for. As far as im aware there is no closing date! the primary PGCE is this month though.
    Which one are you doing?
    Im thinking of Nottingham University, Warwick and Roehampton. you??
    i have to get out of this country..
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    I hear ya!!!

    I did the secondary biology before actually in Bristol. That year I applied in July so I was pretty lucky. Having said that Science has a higher bursary because it is a shortage subject, which would suggest that they are geeing it hard to get people to sign up.

    I'm torn at the moment. May see who is atill accepting apps for primary and apply there, but truly my heart is set on Warwick as I can do P.G.C.E Primary and get Masters credits. I don't have a hope of getting in there with a late app so may move over, work and then reapply next year.

    Fun times
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    Science is no longer a shortage subject. Physics and Chemistry maybe but no way is Biology i'm afraid!
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    (Original post by caroline_p3)
    Science is no longer a shortage subject. Physics and Chemistry maybe but no way is Biology i'm afraid!
    Biology is still in the tier which gets a £6000 bursary the last time I checked. Chemistry, Physics, Maths and I think DT get £9000.
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    doesn't matter what bursary you get i am saying in terms of jobs biology is not a shortage subject. For a science post you will generally get the majority of applications from biology specialists these days, schools are crying out for more chemists/physics specialists.
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    £6000 is also average for all secondary subjects.
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    why are you not using your PGCE secondary instead of applying to primary?
    i rang a few colleges and they expect the bursaries to stay the same as last year with major cuts been imposed in 2012!!
    most people get jobs after doin the science PGCE as far as im aware..
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    I have moved to mostly teaching children with a diagnosis of autism The longterm goal is to work in an ASD Unit. In general these are adjoined to primary schools and so my teaching qualification is deemed invalid. I am reauired to be Primary School trained.
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    (Original post by caroline_p3)
    doesn't matter what bursary you get i am saying in terms of jobs biology is not a shortage subject. For a science post you will generally get the majority of applications from biology specialists these days, schools are crying out for more chemists/physics specialists.
    Ah I see, that's very true!
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    (Original post by nextstep27)
    I have moved to mostly teaching children with a diagnosis of autism The longterm goal is to work in an ASD Unit. In general these are adjoined to primary schools and so my teaching qualification is deemed invalid. I am reauired to be Primary School trained.
    So is it primary aged children you want to work with?

    What about SEN schools that specifically want a teacher with ASD experience? My teacher at my previous school (SEN) was secondary trained and taught a class of students aged 11-16 with autism. She trained to be a advanced skills teacher specialising in children with profound and multiple learning disabilities and autism. I'm sure there must be a better route than to do another pgce!?
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    Thank you, I have just discovered how many schools like this there are in the UK. I have some interviewa lined up. Very excitiing
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    I've still yet to send mine. I think I will send it sometime in January. I'm thinking of applying to IOE, Goldsmiths and various other places around London for a Secondary MFL PGCE. I feel so unprepared though. I have quite a bit of work experience working with kids but none in a British school. I'm not sure how to go about it either. Should I just start emailing some in my area asking if I can come in for observations?
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    (Original post by miss_world)
    I've still yet to send mine. I think I will send it sometime in January. I'm thinking of applying to IOE, Goldsmiths and various other places around London for a Secondary MFL PGCE. I feel so unprepared though. I have quite a bit of work experience working with kids but none in a British school. I'm not sure how to go about it either. Should I just start emailing some in my area asking if I can come in for observations?

    Yeah absolutely - I got in touch with my old secondary school first of all, but others have been just as willing to let me come in and observe/help out.
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    (Original post by Sugar_Puff_Fairy)
    Yeah absolutely - I got in touch with my old secondary school first of all, but others have been just as willing to let me come in and observe/help out.
    Observing at my old school will be a bit tricky as I don't live there any more. I'm in London now so I will just try contacting some schools around here. Hopefully, I'll be able to observe a wide variety.
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    (Original post by miss_world)
    Observing at my old school will be a bit tricky as I don't live there any more. I'm in London now so I will just try contacting some schools around here. Hopefully, I'll be able to observe a wide variety.
    You may need a CRB check. The school I observed in, I'd already mentored there during the year so had a CRB already.
    Also, you could ask to shadow different teachers in the language department and hopefully get some experience at every age range. Some are actually happy that they've got somebody to lend them a hand!
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    (Original post by miss_world)
    Observing at my old school will be a bit tricky as I don't live there any more. I'm in London now so I will just try contacting some schools around here. Hopefully, I'll be able to observe a wide variety.
    What part of London? We have want-to-be PGCE students come in to our department regularly to observe for a few days, they don't normally have to have CRB. I observed in 6 schools for a few days each before i trained as well and didn't need a CRB. I guess it depends on the school. Pupils get observational experience at our school by writing to the head teacher and the head of department. But to be honest lots of the time it is about who you know and ultilising all your contacts you have in any schools!
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    I still haven't sent in my application for the Early Years PGCE at Cambridge, but I wanted to get the work experience first. I am screwed.
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    (Original post by caroline_p3)
    What part of London? We have want-to-be PGCE students come in to our department regularly to observe for a few days, they don't normally have to have CRB. I observed in 6 schools for a few days each before i trained as well and didn't need a CRB. I guess it depends on the school. Pupils get observational experience at our school by writing to the head teacher and the head of department. But to be honest lots of the time it is about who you know and ultilising all your contacts you have in any schools!
    I tried for months ringing up and writing to loads of schools to get experience, and they would all only offer me a day here or there without a CRB, then I figured I would try my old school, called up, asked to talk to the head of department, he remembered me and now I'm volunteering 2 days a week and its great. I think they're going to pay for me to get a CRB after Christmas, but I seem to be more bothered about it than they are. So basically re-iterating, that knowing someone at the school you can vouch that you're not a nutter helps no end.

    Also, on topic of the thread, GTTR mucked up my application and my referee couldn't log in to write my reference before he went away to the Canadian Rockies for the whole of Christmas. So Geography PGCE remains unapplied to until the 10th of January.
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    (Original post by caroline_p3)
    What part of London? We have want-to-be PGCE students come in to our department regularly to observe for a few days, they don't normally have to have CRB. I observed in 6 schools for a few days each before i trained as well and didn't need a CRB. I guess it depends on the school. Pupils get observational experience at our school by writing to the head teacher and the head of department. But to be honest lots of the time it is about who you know and ultilising all your contacts you have in any schools!
    North London, but I'd be more than willing to travel! I have had several CRB checks but I'm not sure how long they last for. Do you need a new one each year?

    I don't know anyone who works in a school in London!
 
 
 
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