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    (Original post by Mr Inquisitive)
    What are TSR's views on Miliband's views on the tuition fees?

    Considering that the Labour Party introduced tuition fees, enabled the Browne report, and allowed "soft" courses like Sociology to be in the University course selection, has Miliband got a leg to stand on?
    Does it really matter whether they're tactics or genuine? The fact of the matter is, whether Labour initiated it or not, we are living in the present so we should deal with issues at present. And if the student populace believe student fees as a whole are wrong, well then we should campaign for that if/when Labour come into power too.
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    (Original post by meowmeowmutiny)
    I know. Makes them somewhat a waste of time and money, doesn't it?
    Without a doubt.
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    (Original post by Mr Inquisitive)
    What are TSR's views on Miliband's views on the tuition fees?

    Considering that the Labour Party introduced tuition fees, , and allowed "soft" courses like Sociology to be in the University course selection, has Miliband got a leg to stand on?
    Labour's tuition fees topped up the teaching grant the government provided. Giving universities additional income to spend. The new proposals completely take away teaching grants for most courses (80% is the quoted figure?) and the tuition fees role is to completely fund the course - thus universities are poorer. It's completely different. I don't disagree with Labour's system of topping up the money given to universities - the ConDems are just cutting and running with universities money.

    enabled the Browne report
    The proposals introduced are actually quite different to the Browne report - and Browne is an independant - it didn't mean Labour would carry out the report's findings (which the ConDems haven't done really either).
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    1. Sociology is highly prestigious in the days of circusology courses, and equestrian psychology courses.. and the classic golf course management.


    2.Labour are doing their job in slating policies, when it is likely they have no real idea for a replacement policy themselves.
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    (Original post by Organ)
    Labour's tuition fees topped up the teaching grant the government provided. Giving universities additional income to spend. The new proposals completely take away teaching grants for most courses (80% is the quoted figure?) and the tuition fees role is to completely fund the course - thus universities are poorer. It's completely different. I don't disagree with Labour's system of topping up the money given to universities - the ConDems are just cutting and running with universities money.
    That's not really true. Increased money from tuition fees will actually lead to increased funding for many universities, if they charge fees at the high end. The average degree costs £7000 a year, so if £9000 is charged then the uni gets £2000 extra for each student, and this will more than replace money cut from their budget.
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    (Original post by In the looney bin)
    1. Sociology is highly prestigious in the days of circusology courses, and equestrian psychology courses.. and the classic golf course management.
    All of which are infinatly more directly useful than a politics or classics degree...

    2.Labour are doing their job in slating policies, when it is likely they have no real idea for a replacement policy themselves.
    You read the whole bit about endorsing the NUS's graduate contribution idea? Thats the policy he's endorsing.
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    (Original post by Mr Inquisitive)
    What are TSR's views on Miliband's views on the tuition fees?

    Considering that the Labour Party introduced tuition fees, enabled the Browne report, and allowed "soft" courses like Sociology to be in the University course selection, has Miliband got a leg to stand on?
    So you are suggesting that Sociology should not be taught in Uni? What are you basing that on exactly bar massive ignorance of a topic I presume you have no knowledge of?
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      (Original post by Mr Inquisitive)
      What are TSR's views on Miliband's views on the tuition fees?
      Whatever the students want to hear ...
     
     
     
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