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ARGENTINA formally recognises Palestinian State - Israel claims it is "regrettable" Watch

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    Sorry, can't jump on the bandwagon now, Argentina. Brazil inb4'd you fair and square.
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    (Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
    I reject the existence of a Zionist state...
    So do you want Israel to be destroyed and another state put in its place, or for a Palestinian state to invade?
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    So do you want Israel to be destroyed and another state put in its place, or for a Palestinian state to invade?
    If you're asking for my personal views, I want to see the peaceful dismantling of the Zionist state in favour of a unified Palestine that is not based on any inherently racist or religiously-nationalistic ideology. A nation that recognises all creeds, religions and races and includes the Palestinian right of return and excludes the idea of an exclusively Jewish homeland. No invasions. No occupations. No violence. Only unification, freedom, independence and humanity.

    Of course, you're only going to resort to one sided hyperbole and political bias using loaded questions and weasel-words like 'destroyed', but hey. Can't expect much more from someone who's so called 'libertarian' attitudes leads them to blind ethno-nationalism and apartheid :rolleyes:
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    Why is only south american countries though?
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    (Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
    If you're asking for my personal views, I want to see the peaceful dismantling of the Zionist state in favour of a unified Palestine that is not based on any inherently racist or religiously-nationalistic ideology. A nation that recognises all creeds, religions and races and includes the Palestinian right of return and excludes the idea of an exclusively Jewish homeland. No invasions. No occupations. No violence. Only unification, freedom, independence and humanity.
    So you want to see Israel replaced with a Palestinian state, essentially? And you do this because of your opposition to Jewish nationalism, because you see it as somehow less viable/respectable than Palestinian nationalism. Who, exactly, is going to "peacefully" dismantle Israel?

    Of course, you're only going to resort to one sided hyperbole and political bias using loaded questions and weasel-words like 'destroyed', but hey. Can't expect much more from someone who's so called 'libertarian' attitudes leads them to blind ethno-nationalism and apartheid :rolleyes:
    I don't actually, but it's always good to have a few ad hominems - didn't expect much less if I'm honest. A "unified" Palestinian state would most likely lead to these buzzwords anyway. I support liberty, not democracy in its purest form, so I believe that one Jewish majority state and one Palestinian majority state will invariably lead to more liberty than just one Palestinian majority state.
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    Why is it all South American countries lining up to recognise Palestine?
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    I can see a bit of a diagonal axis emerging with common suspicion of the U.S. and Israel.

    Russia, China, Iran, Palestine, South America. I don't know what India's been up to, but there's the BRIC relations.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    If as other's pointed out in the last thread the 1967 borders are indefensible then there is no way the Israeli's will ever allow the country to revert back to these borders.
    Indefensible? What does that even mean? If Israel created the situation where these borders were indefensible (due to settlement building and the west bank barrier which doesn't follow the true internationally recognised borders), then surely it's not the Palestinians who should be paying the price.

    It's exactly like me stealing someone's car, then two years down the line, use the excuse that "having this car has been so convenient" to not give it back.

    Just doesn't go along with common sense.
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    (Original post by borismor)
    The fact that it's not internationally recognized beyond the 67 borders.

    You fail to understand that a recognition of a Palestinian state inside the 67 borders equals the two state solution.
    The international community didn't recognise Israel's borders beyond 1967, before the six day war, but suddenly Israel is arguing against that now, 43 years down the line.

    You never know how things end up, and that's his point I think.

    Not that I support a Palestinian state beyond these borders anyway
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    (Original post by JakePearson)
    It's a pretty small genocide considering the military capability of Israel. Oh wait, that's because it's not a genocide.
    No, it's probably because Israeli murders are just under the limit which would create insurmountable international outrage, notwithstanding the full operation of the zionist propaganda machine 24/7.

    Note Israeli efforts having stepped up multi-fold this year on 'promoting its global image'. Why would this be necessary if not for the outrageous massacre of the Gaza strip (no matter how the zionist pigs try to justify this indiscriminate muder of over 1400 by the "dangers caused by rockets" (recorded to have killed a mere 7 in the past so many years), the bulldozing of the homes of thousands in West Bank (oh wait - that's not in Israel either) and the resuming of settlement-building in Palestinian territory (again - NOT your land zionists). :rolleyes:

    You obviously haven't watched the video in my sig. I recommend it - you won't agree, naturally, but it'll reflect the position I'm coming from a lot better than I believe I can do justice to.
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    (Original post by the-observer)
    The international community didn't recognise Israel's borders beyond 1967, before the six day war, but suddenly Israel is arguing against that now, 43 years down the line.
    Israel is arguing that a Palestinian state should be established as a part of a peace process and not unilaterally.

    I'm not sure I'm against a unilateral Palestinian state myself, but there are good arguments against it, based on the results of unilateral steps made in the past.

    You never know how things end up, and that's his point I think.
    He said that he thinks it will not go against the idea of a one state, while I think that it will be the last nail in the coffin of the one state solution, which is why a part of me tends to support it.
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    (Original post by DJkG.1)
    No, it's probably because Israeli murders are just under the limit which would create insurmountable international outrage, notwithstanding the full operation of the zionist propaganda machine 24/7.

    Note Israeli efforts having stepped up multi-fold this year on 'promoting its global image'. Why would this be necessary if not for the outrageous massacre of the Gaza strip (no matter how the zionist pigs try to justify this indiscriminate muder of over 1400 by the "dangers caused by rockets" (recorded to have killed a mere 7 in the past so many years), the bulldozing of the homes of thousands in West Bank (oh wait - that's not in Israel either) and the resuming of settlement-building in Palestinian territory (again - NOT your land zionists). :rolleyes:

    You obviously haven't watched the video in my sig. I recommend it - you won't agree, naturally, but it'll reflect the position I'm coming from a lot better than I believe I can do justice to.
    When you say these things, are you aware of the numbers of Palestinians that got killed in Jordan, Lebanon and Gaza at the hands of Arabs and Palestinians?
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    (Original post by Law123mus)
    "United Kingdom formaly recognises the state of palastine"

    Too soon?.......
    Perhaps if Nick Clegg didn't sell out.

    Also, where is Hugo Chavez and Castro?
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    (Original post by Mr. Orange)
    "He [Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki] told The Associated Press on Monday that he expects Uruguay and Paraguay to recognize Palestinian statehood in the next few days, followed by Bolivia and Ecuador."

    What, is it "South America recognises Palestine Week" or summat?
    most prob partly to go against usa and also to further cement friendship with iran (ahadinjad) and their trade deals
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    (Original post by Kaloo)
    What would be really interesting news is if a country stops recognising Israeli as a state and only recognises Palestine
    Iran, pretty much.
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    (Original post by B-Man.)
    Is this an official position?
    I believe so. At least when it comes to not recognizing Israel.
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    (Original post by borismor)
    The fact that it's not internationally recognized beyond the 67 borders.

    You fail to understand that a recognition of a Palestinian state inside the 67 borders equals the two state solution.
    Those are your mathematics, not mine.

    I welcome the recognition of the 1967 borders as a progressive step towards the creation of a single secular state, but not as a solution.
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    (Original post by Struggle)
    I welcome the recognition of the 1967 borders as a progressive step towards the creation of a single secular state, but not as a solution.
    Then I think that you are very short sighted.

    A Palestinian state within 67 means a de facto implementation of the two state solution - two separate states that speak different languages, have separate and independent governments, military, judicial, education health and banking systems.

    Good luck with uniting that.
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    (Original post by borismor)
    The fact that it's not internationally recognized beyond the 67 borders.

    You fail to understand that a recognition of a Palestinian state inside the 67 borders equals the two state solution.
    Your support of illegal settlements makes your viewpoint biased and irrelevant.
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    (Original post by borismor)
    When you say these things, are you aware of the numbers of Palestinians that got killed in Jordan, Lebanon and Gaza at the hands of Arabs and Palestinians?
    Yes we know. Good justification- they take part in thuggery and murder so it's fine if we do as well :borat:
 
 
 
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