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Bullingdon Club scum got a little taste of their own medicine - good! Watch

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    (Original post by LawBore)
    "...left-wing people find it very hard to get on with right-wing people, because they believe that they are evil. Whereas I have no problem getting on with left-wing people, because I simply believe that they are mistaken."- Roger Scruton
    This is true, I’ve tried explaining it too many people but in the future I will just point them to this.

    Tories do not hate the poor; many in the HoC have been outraged when it’s suggested by the party opposite. Mr Cameron made a very passionate speech on the subject when he was leader of the opposition about how Labour claim to the be the party of the poor but let a situation arise where if you got a low paid job, and as such lose all your state benefits, you were effectively taxed 97p in the pound and how outrageous this is. This was to the Tory party faithful and got a huge support, a standing ovation. Just because we don’t believe in throwing money at the poor it doesn’t mean we hate them, the founder of Big Issue agrees with Tory welfare reforms, you think he hates the poor?
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    Holy 200 years ago batman!
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    Its labour who caused divide in the first place with introducing tuition fees. If the same labour government hadn't then sold all our gold reserves and generally wasted our money, by trying to improve social mobility by just giving money away to those who have never even tried to find a job, then the conservatives wouldn't need to make these cuts.

    I have nothing against social mobility but it has to be achieved within our means. Creating an extra 1000 NHS jobs is all very well but most of the times they create inefficiencies. As for schools, governments should be trying to raise the standards of state schools in better and newer ways, not try to disadvantage kids from wealthier backgrounds who are lucky enough to go to private school by talking about introducing measures like 'grade handicaps' to the poor.
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    (Original post by juanmodesto)



    "Giving education to the labouring classes of the poor would teach them to despise their lot in life, instead of making them good servants in agricultur*e and other laborious employment*s to which their rank in society has destined them; instead of teaching them the virtue of subordinat*ion, it would render them factious and refactory. It would enable them to read seditious pamphlets, vicious books and publicatio*ns against Christiani*ty."

    (Tory MP Davies Giddy on the Parochial Schools Bill,1807 )
    (Hansard, Vol 9, 13 July 1807)


    You have to give it to the Tories - they are consistent*. Consistent scum decade after century!
    Wow a quote from 200 years ago. Nothing could have changed since then could it.
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    Yeah, that quote could easily come out of the mouths of people like Cameron and Osborne, albeit behind closed doors these days. I think a lot of young people are now beginning to realise what Conservative government means, it means protecting and advancing the cause of the wealthy and privileged and making everyone else suffer. Damn, we're only six months into this coalition and already there has been serious unrest against them, they are gonna be so deeply hated by the end of their first term.
    To be perfectly honest I would not be suprised if behind closed doors Ed Miliband talked about how much he hates the rich and would gladly send them to gulags.
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      (Original post by Aj12)
      To be perfectly honest I would not be suprised if behind closed doors Ed Miliband talked about how much he hates the rich and would gladly send them to gulags.
      Maybe.

      Actually I don't think tories hate the poor under any circumstances. I suspect they actually quite like the ones who behave towards the rich with an appropriate level of deference. After all, a large element in tory ideology is the idea that "we all have our place" and as long as the poor are demonstrating they know theirs I think they would get a nice pat on the head.
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      (Original post by juanmodesto)
      It has everything to do with it.

      If, like Cameron and Osborne, you spent your student days smashing places up for laughs, you have ****-all moral authority to complain about students smashing-up your gaff. Simples.
      But they have never been proven to have been involved in the whole smashing up restaurants business. Only dear old Boris has admitted to jumping hedges to escape police. The Bullingdon is like a dining society, first and foremost, and I have never heard of modern day members doing such a thing.
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      (Original post by Aj12)
      To be perfectly honest I would not be suprised if behind closed doors Ed Miliband talked about how much he hates the rich and would gladly send them to gulags.
      The Labour front bench are just champagne socialists (I love whoever coined this term).
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      (Original post by Oswy)
      Maybe.

      Actually I don't think tories hate the poor under any circumstances. I suspect they actually quite like the ones who behave towards the rich with an appropriate level of deference. After all, a large element in tory ideology is the idea that "we all have our place" and as long as the poor are demonstrating they know theirs I think they would get a nice pat on the head.
      No. To us, being poor is a temporary economic circumstance, not some kind of personal identity.
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        (Original post by yahyahyahs)
        The Labour front bench are just champagne socialists (I love whoever coined this term).
        The labour party haven't been socialist for quite some time now, champagne socialist or otherwise. At best their ideological position is left-liberal.
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          (Original post by L i b)
          No. To us, being poor is a temporary economic circumstance, not some kind of personal identity.
          Tories like to cultivate a certain self-image, sure, but my experience is that they are nonetheless contemptuous of the 'lower orders' - unless they are duly deferential to their social 'superiors'.
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          (Original post by Oswy)
          The labour party haven't been socialist for quite some time now, champagne socialist or otherwise. At best their ideological position is left-liberal.
          Champagne socialist - close enough.
         
         
         
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