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    It was John Major and the Conservatives who expanded the university sector, making all the polytechnics into "new universities" in 1992. From that point onwards the shift towards tuition fees began.
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    Yeah, a global economic collapse due to lax financial regulations and a government that are making cuts deeper than necessary because they're too scared to increase taxes and regulate business properly (to say nothing of their dramatic undervaluing of education). Those sound like exactly the sort of thing socialists would be responsible for.
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    (Original post by Captain92)
    New Labour couldn't be described by anybody who knows anything about politics as "socialist".
    Blair was a child of Thatcher.
    Well said. You cannot blame socialists for the fees.
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    The reason the government cannot afford to give everyone grants for higher education anymore is because New Labour decided university is for everybody, to the point the government cannot afford to give all students grants because there are too many of us. The result of the socialist left's policy is university is now no longer for the intelligent, but for the well off. University is paid for with the sweat of the brow. If everybody goes to university there will not be enough people paying taxes to fund it. They want a free ride, and they want other people to pay for them.

    The socialist left have made English education a capitalist commodity, and with their rioting they are forcing the hand of the government to take a more authoritarian line, resembling fascism. They truly are the blight of the nation.
    I agree with this pretty much.

    University is not for everybody, it should be for the academically elite. The creation of micky mouse courses and the belief that every Tom, **** or Harry should go to university has caused this. If they scrapped mickey mouse degrees, they'd have more funding for the 'proper' subjects.
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    (Original post by karateworm)
    What a nasty, racist bit of work you are. You're not welcome in polite society, please leave.
    Where in this thread has she been racist?
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    (Original post by .Ali.)
    Where in this thread has she been racist?
    Her signature i guess.
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    (Original post by Caritas)
    'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need'.

    The state taking away money from the rich and giving it to the poor seems socialist to me. It may not be quite what Marx had it mind, but it is certainly his legacy.
    No, its more like a social democrat thing to do. I.E reform capitalism to make 'nice capitalism' rather than overthrwoing capitalism and putting in its place a new system - socialism. Its a big difference.
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    (Original post by Excandersham)
    Her signature i guess.
    I haven't clicked the links, but it doesn't seem to be overwhelmingly racist from what I can see. Also, if that is what he meant, there was no need to mention it as the thread wan't about race at all. :dontknow:
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    (Original post by .Ali.)
    Where in this thread has she been racist?
    Where she proclaimed that the BNP isn't extreme enough for her

    Edit: I mis-read it. Above comment is now void of meaning.
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    (Original post by karateworm)
    Where she proclaimed that the BNP isn't extreme enough for her :rolleyes:
    LOL, I nearly burst a blood vessel then. But what she wrote was:

    Actually the BNP isn't moderate enough yet for me
    She may be scum, but she has a point about universities given that many students' grammar and English is appalling and they're studying for mickey mouse qualifications.
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    (Original post by Kickflip)
    The reason the government cannot afford to give everyone grants for higher education anymore is because New Labour decided university is for everybody, to the point the government cannot afford to give all students grants because there are too many of us. The result of the socialist left's policy is university is now no longer for the intelligent, but for the well off. University is paid for with the sweat of the brow. If everybody goes to university there will not be enough people paying taxes to fund it. They want a free ride, and they want other people to pay for them.

    The socialist left have made English education a capitalist commodity, and with their rioting they are forcing the hand of the government to take a more authoritarian line, resembling fascism. They truly are the blight of the nation.

    But fascist economic policy is pretty much identical to that of Labour and the Lib Dems...
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    (Original post by Blondshavemorefun)
    Same can't be said for the 'boy' Milliband, the union stooge! The reason the government's finances are in such a mess is that they allowed a financial service industry to operate in international markets without sufficient regulation as they were too busy enjoying the boom years of inflated asset prices. Everyone got in on the act, even dull boring old building societies. Toxic debt is still on the banks books, it hasn't gone away, also the banks hold a lot of Soverign Debt of countries whose economies are bankrupt and the city boys are still selling the derivatives such as CDS, CDO etc that caused the problem in first place and earning enormous big fat bonuses. Happy Days!!!:lolz:
    haha
    read "whoops" by john lanchester, by any chance?

    im really not sure whether i like milliband. for now, i'm thinking - "he's an idealistic ********"
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    (Original post by .Ali.)
    I haven't clicked the links, but it doesn't seem to be overwhelmingly racist from what I can see. Also, if that is what he meant, there was no need to mention it as the thread wan't about race at all. :dontknow:

    You've only been a member for a few months... she used to very active in being generally vile, but she keeps being slapped down with temporary bans recently, and thus hasn't been rearing her ugly head so often.

    Also, look at her profile, not sure if it still says this but it was basically Nazi core ideology but with the words 'German' and/or 'Aryan' replaced with 'British'...
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    (Original post by karateworm)
    Where she proclaimed that the BNP isn't extreme enough for her :rolleyes:
    She said it wasn't moderate enough for her actually. As I said to you in our little conversation, actually read what people are saying before making an ill-informed judgement.
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    (Original post by Barden)
    You've only been a member for a few months... she used to very active in being generally vile, but she keeps being slapped down with temporary bans recently, and thus hasn't been rearing her ugly head so often.

    Also, look at her profile, not sure if it still says this but it was basically Nazi core ideology but with the words 'German' and/or 'Aryan' replaced with 'British'...
    Hmmm, I see what you mean, I have seen one or two threads from her bordering on racial hatred. My point was that this thread wasn't racist at all, and she actually had a point. But yeah, I wasn't around before so she could have been very racist beforehand.
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    Says OP, who didnt seem to hesitate when this benefit was being bestowed upon her. although it is quite credible that she now wants the partially subsidized fees that she pays and the quality of teaching that she receives as a result of the previous higher education budget, to be cut for newer students.
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    (Original post by adam_zed)
    Says OP, who didnt seem to hesitate when this benefit was being bestowed upon her. although it is quite credible that she now wants the partially subsidized fees that she pays and the quality of teaching that she receives as a result of the previous higher education budget, to be cut for newer students.
    We're living in an age of austerity. She was lucky, newer students aren't. Tough.
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    (Original post by PerigeeApogee)
    Elaborate.
    http://www.thevenusproject.com/
    http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

    'Modern society has access to highly advanced technology and can make available food, clothing, housing and medical care; update our educational system; and develop a limitless supply of renewable, non-contaminating energy. By supplying an efficiently designed economy, everyone can enjoy a very high standard of living with all of the amenities of a high technological society.

    A resource-based economy would utilize existing resources from the land and sea, physical equipment, industrial plants, etc. to enhance the lives of the total population. In an economy based on resources rather than money, we could easily produce all of the necessities of life and provide a high standard of living for all.

    Consider the following examples: At the beginning of World War II the US had a mere 600 or so first-class fighting aircraft. We rapidly overcame this short supply by turning out more than 90,000 planes a year. The question at the start of World War II was: Do we have enough funds to produce the required implements of war? The answer was no, we did not have enough money, nor did we have enough gold; but we did have more than enough resources. It was the available resources that enabled the US to achieve the high production and efficiency required to win the war. Unfortunately this is only considered in times of war.'


    Hard to imagine if you havent spent a considerable amount of time on the subject and havent watched all the zeitgeists (although im not saying they are solid fact
    as i dont agree with a lot in them but they are providing another side of the story) They have ample research and knowledge of the how the worlds resources are used, wasted and traded and offers a solution to so many problems that can be fixed not only in the developed west but the whole world.

    It is capitalist social communism really is that makes any sense.. people can sit in their houses and do whatever they want for free because of abundance. If you want a new tv for example you have to contribute to society.. you will technically work in a role that society needs (cant have a world without doctors or policemen or scientists or builders etc) You take away bankers, all jobs associated with money that we dont need to survive etc. The increased amount of workers who, instead of sitting in the office, are now working on farms or driving ambulances or whatever for a few hours a day to gain higher access to resources above those equally shared, not earn the right to resource which is unfairly distributed.

    Everything vital will flourish, you will still have television, music, food, healthcare, nights out, some chavs who cant be bothered to do anything, fashion etc but this system aims to take away the constrictions of money.

    It is not everyone living in the same house doing the same things like communist robots, the man who started it all is an architect which is why there are a lot of futuristic designs.

    Give it some time, it makes perfect sense to me, and it should to everyone once you read how they have covered every query you will have.

    There is so much to take in and most people give up lol, still thats my 2 cents on how i think the world should work, and luckily im not alone.

    Im also not amazing at explaining things either
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    (Original post by Excandersham)
    Her signature i guess.
    Your a complete fail of a person if you attack people rather than arguments. If she is a racist or not does not make a difference towards her argument. Attack that or shut up.
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    I met a girl the other day with a 2.1 from Uni of Brighton and she couldn't spell 'sword' (sord), 'whether' (wether), and she didn't know what 'medieval' meant, or what Vikings were.

    Needless to say, she has a degree in 'sports science'.
 
 
 
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