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    (Original post by tenhornedbeast)
    There was this really interesting silent film by Carl von Dreyer, but if only I could remember the name...

    I saw Vampyr that was p.cool
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    (Original post by beecher)
    why do you want to watch a nihilistic film there's no point
    :borat:

    I like.
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    Watchmen?
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    You want to watch a Nihilistic film? But I thought it didn't matter?


    P.S. ZING
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    Taxi Driver perhaps?
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    1984. The film
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    I'm not convinced Trainspotting is nihilist, the ending is quite happy and positive. And I'm not convinced any of the books being mentioned can really be descibed as nihilist. Orwell was not nihilistic in the slightest, he had a very strong sense of right and wrong and life having meaning.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

    Good films with nihilistic elements include:

    Battle Royale, Ghost World, Series 7: The Contenders, Withnail & I, Apocalypse Now, Grave of the Fireflies, No Country for Old Men, A Clockwork Orange, Blade Runner, Cube, Mulholland Drive, Buffalo Soldiers, American Psycho, Doctor Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket

    Edit: Actually, Grave of the Fireflies isn't really nihilistic, it's more just unimaginably depressing. And Series 7 isn't actually a good film.

    Edit 2: I just read that great big long quote that explains why Trainspotting can be considered nihilst, well, OK, seems I'm wrong
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    (Original post by Ideot)


    Um um, Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky! Raskolnikov can be a bit annoying sometimes, bear with him though.
    Also The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoevsky. It can be scarily emotional though.
    Jean Paul Sartre's Age of Reason books Though more Existentialist..
    I've heard Kafka is a Nihilist - I haven't read any of his works yet.
    Orwell's stuff obviously You've probably read him.

    Edit: Just realised how many times I typed "though".
    haha thank you so much i'll be sure not to delete this off my watched list

    george orwell i've read the obvious ones aha, 1984 and animal farm

    scarily emotional? i'm intrigued
    i've read a tiny bit of Tolstoy, are the different russian authors comparable in their style of writing?
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    (Original post by theths)
    e.g. got this off a nihilist propaganda website (o.O)


    i especially like the idea of the first one, sounds like Nietzsche, who i have a small obsession with (:
    Well of course, Nihilism (though not coined by him) is a result of Nietzsche

    Whom confused me for endless philosophy lessons :unimpressed: though one cannot help but be impressed :yep:

    Though, anything where the more intelligent people rule over the commoners would be Nietzsche :awesome:
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    (Original post by Facticity)
    Well of course, Nihilism (though not coined by him) is a result of Nietzsche

    Whom confused me for endless philosophy lessons :unimpressed: though one cannot help but be impressed :yep:

    Though, anything where the more intelligent people rule over the commoners would be Nietzsche :awesome:
    yeah, Nietzsche is a classic example of an evil genius

    haha i think that's actually quite an ironic outcome of Nietzsche's philosophy, given that he so strongly seemed to believe that people should free themselves from the boundaries of morality and the ruling class's values
    quite the opposite of a situation where there's a completely supreme ruling party

    although i suppose there is some confusion in that he thought only the inherently intelligent would be able to free themselves from those boundaries, and so would naturally end up superior to the masses...but to form a ruling party?! really??
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    (Original post by theths)
    yeah, Nietzsche is a classic example of an evil genius

    haha i think that's actually quite an ironic outcome of Nietzsche's philosophy, given that he so strongly seemed to believe that people should free themselves from the boundaries of morality and the ruling class's values
    quite the opposite of a situation where there's a completely supreme ruling party

    although i suppose there is some confusion in that he thought only the inherently intelligent would be able to free themselves from those boundaries, and so would naturally end up superior to the masses...but to form a ruling party?! really??
    Well Nietzsche is a misunderstood and lost soul.... but he is crazy! :laugh:

    Well, I particularly enjoyed the last chapter of Beyond Good and Evil where he appears to be waiting for the rest of the world to become intelligent geniuses like him and join him at the top of the world :rofl:

    Nietzsche is hilarious, however his social moral theories are quite potent :beard:
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    (Original post by James Gregory)
    I'm not convinced Trainspotting is not nihilist, the ending is quite happy and positive. And I'm not convinced any of the books being mentioned can really be descibed as nihilist. Orwell was not nihilistic in the slightest, he had a very strong sense of right and wrong and life having meaning.
    Really, maybe the film isn't too nihilistic but, the novel definitely is. I'd say the film has an element of nihilism, I cba to go into detail but, here's some quotes from the novel

    "Life's boring and futile. We start oaf wi high hopes, then we bottle it. We realize that we're aw gaunnae die, withoot really findin oot the big answers. We develop aw they long-winded ideas which jist interpret the reality ay oor lives in different weys, withoot really extending oor body ay worthwhile knowledge, about the big things, the real things. Basically, we live a short, disappointing life; and then we die."

    "Society invents a spurious convoluted logic tae absorb and change people whae's behaviour is outside its mainstream. Suppose that ah ken aw the pros and cons, know that ah'm gaunnae huv a short life, am ay sound mind etcetera, etcetera, but still want tae use smack? They won't let ye dae it. They won't let ye dae it, beacuse its seen as a sign ay thir ain failure. The fact that ye jist simply choose tae reject whit they huv to offer. Choose us. Choose life. Choose mortgage payments; choose washing machines; choose cars; choose sitting oan a couch watching mind-numbing and spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing ****in junk food intae yir mouth. Choose rotting away, pishing and ****eing yersel in a home, a total ****in embarrassment tae the selfish, ****ed-up brats ye've produced. Choose life.
    Well, ah choose no tae choose life. If the ***** cannae handle that, it's thair ****in problem. As Harry Lauder sais, ah jist intend tae keep right on to the end of the road ..."

    Sorry if you can't understand it. The novel is written in scottish dialectic, I cba to translate so I hope you understand.

    Cheers for the long list of films and books (I've read some of the books already thanks)
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    (Original post by Deadlifts)
    Really, maybe the film isn't too nihilistic but, the novel definitely is. I'd say the film has an element of nihilism, I cba to go into detail but, here's some quotes from the novel


    ...
    Yes, I was wrong to claim Trainspotting is not nihilistic, I wish I hadn't said that now. But I still can't see how 1984 can possibly be an example of nihilism? 1984 is a dystopia, Orwell's point being that there are good and bad ways to organise society, and totalitarian communism is a bad one.
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    (Original post by James Gregory)
    Yes, I was wrong to claim Trainspotting is not nihilistic, I wish I hadn't said that now. But I still can't see how 1984 can possibly be an example of nihilism? 1984 is a dystopia, Orwell's point being that there are good and bad ways to organise society, and totalitarian communism is a bad one.
    Never read 1984, although I'd like to.
    I think Orwell was the same author who wrote Animal Farm, which seems to advocate a form of socialism
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    (Original post by Deadlifts)
    Never read 1984, although I'd like to.
    I think Orwell was the same author who wrote Animal Farm, which seems to advocate a form of socialism
    Um, Animal Farm was a satire of communist Russia, so not exactly socialist.
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    (Original post by superwolf)
    Um, Animal Farm was a satire of communist Russia, so not exactly socialist.
    lol obviously I've not read it myself, just what I heard
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    Requiem for a Dream.
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    (Original post by Deadlifts)
    Never read 1984, although I'd like to.
    I think Orwell was the same author who wrote Animal Farm, which seems to advocate a form of socialism
    (Original post by superwolf)
    Um, Animal Farm was a satire of communist Russia, so not exactly socialist.
    Though Orwell himself was an advocate of socialism, so Deadlifts isn't as wrong as you may think.
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    Must must must see Seul Contre Tous (I Stand Alone). Maybe Gummo, Antichrist, Ken Park, KIDS?
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    blow is good
 
 
 
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