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    (Original post by .Ali.)
    Gee, wonder which side you support...:rolleyes:
    It's not about sides. My whole point is that they both seek the other's destruction which is possible, therefore being on one side or the other is futile.
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    in my opinion your views seem extremely biased in a way in which you are clearly supporting socialistic views

    However it is your views not mine
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    I've come to the conclusion that politics is the constant battle between two polarised concepts.

    Capitalism v Socialism
    Greed v Fairness
    Selfishness v conscience
    survival of the fittest v provision for all
    evil v good

    It seems to me that it is the conflict that exists within every individual, the innate human desire to get to the top at all costs, up against the spiritual, moral conscience.

    The reality is that both sides have always existed and always will do. When there is huge imbalance, there is war.

    for example, money is always hoarded by the greedy few but the more that increases and becomes obvious, people fight back to re-gain their equality. Likewise in a socialist society designed to eliminate greed, greed always resurfaces and the system breaks down becomes it is undermined by people who think they are superior to others.

    Erm... What about fascism? What about Communism? What about Socialism? What about Marxism? What about democracy? These are just some of the many different forms of politics... Politics is WAY too complex to be summarized in two catagories!
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    (Original post by mevidek)
    Erm... What about fascism? What about Communism? What about Socialism? What about Marxism? What about democracy? These are just some of the many different forms of politics... Politics is WAY too complex to be summarized in two catagories!
    all those political systems you mention are a mixture of both categories, which is what all politics is. With the exception of communism of course, because it's just a theory which in practice doesn't work.
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    I think you are being very biased.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    all those political systems you mention are a mixture of both categories, which is what all politics is. With the exception of communism of course, because it's just a theory which in practice doesn't work.
    I agree 100%. You cannont be totally socialist or totally conservative.
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    Some will agree with this and some won't and in the end, nothing will have been accomplished with this thread other than chaos......
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    You're either incredibly stupid or a troll.

    Or both.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    what do you mean by growth?

    hmm if you can't grasp the concept of good and evil then maybe ignorance v enlightenment would be a better analogy.



    Thats subjective.
    Religious people see them selves as enlightened, yet I as an non-theist see them as ignorant and vice versa
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    Perhaps I should have explained myself better as many don't seem to understand my point. My post was actually more philosophical than political. I'll try using an allegory.

    Man A is selfish. He believes that the world is dog eat dog and he will do anything to survive and get to the top, if it's at the expense of others' suffering then so be it, he shows no pity as he has no compassion.

    Man B is the complete opposite. He lives a modest life and shares his possessions. He believes all men to be equal so he has no competitive desire.

    In reality there are no real people like man A or man B but every person has elements of both in them, as does every political system.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    all those political systems you mention are a mixture of both categories, which is what all politics is. With the exception of communism of course, because it's just a theory which in practice doesn't work.
    Would you define the colour spectrum as black vs. white?
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    (Original post by AnarchistNutter)
    Would you define the colour spectrum as black vs. white?
    Possibly, though I would say more 'light vs absence of light'
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    Possibly, though I would say more 'light vs absence of light'
    Hmm...well in a purely physicist way, yes white is a combination of all possible lights/colour spectrums bar black which is not a light however that would be to take my statement far too literally and in a fairly abstract way (colour as we see it through eyes, through aesthetic art and other cultural means vs. colour in a purely scientific way).

    I am a commie and don't agree with central planning, bureacratisation, state ownership, taxation and regulation amongst over things (libertarian communism is a society based upon a federation of producers' co-operatives). Yet by your simplistic analogy I am but a mixture of black and white. I would also argue that fascism, for instance, goes way beyond the traditional one dimensional left vs. right spectrum (which is a load of bull anyway) - and beyond insanity as well, might I add.
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    (Original post by AnarchistNutter)
    Hmm...well in a purely physicist way, yes white is a combination of all possible lights/colour spectrums bar black which is not a light however that would be to take my statement far too literally and in a fairly abstract way (colour as we see it through eyes, through aesthetic art and other cultural means vs. colour in a purely scientific way).

    I am a commie and don't agree with central planning, bureacratisation, state ownership, taxation and regulation amongst over things (libertarian communism is a society based upon a federation of producers' co-operatives). Yet by your simplistic analogy I am but a mixture of black and white. I would also argue that fascism, for instance, goes way beyond the traditional one dimensional left vs. right spectrum (which is a load of bull anyway) - and beyond insanity as well, might I add.
    I am pleased to see you believe in the light but you are mistaken in your denial of the darkness.

    I agree left v right is a load of bull, fascism is the real enemy and appears in both disguises.
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    I am pleased to see you believe in the light but you are mistaken in your denial of the darkness.
    :confused:

    I agree left v right is a load of bull, fascism is the real enemy and appears in both disguises.
    I think that there are more enemies for us anarchists than just fascists...
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    What type of anarchy do you believe in?
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    (Original post by AnarchistNutter)
    :confused:



    I think that there are more enemies for us anarchists than just fascists...
    I thought the opposite to libertarianism was totalitarianism?
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Depends how you define "inequality", which will always exist.

    You cannot really say it is growing when it is not quantifiable. :rolleyes:
    How is it not quantifiable?
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    (Original post by garethDT)
    I thought the opposite to libertarianism was totalitarianism?
    The fascists aren't the only totalitarians.

    (Original post by atypicalgirl)
    What type of anarchy do you believe in?
    I am closest to syndicalist anarchism but believe in other movements within social anarchism.
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    (Original post by AnarchistNutter)
    The fascists aren't the only totalitarians.



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    Exactly, totalitarians come in many forms, just look at Hitler and Stalin.
 
 
 
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