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    (Original post by lekky)
    What about possessions that prove useful? A car for example would make my life a lot easier for many years to come. Going travelling would be a wonderful experience for a few weeks/months.
    Ok, lets split the possesion into the necessary and unnecessary... Obviously, sometimes, a car is necessary. Recent events in my life have made me realise an iPhone or PS3, etc, isn't necessary, necessarily. lol.

    (Wanna travel europe with us? 3rd person welcome)
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    (Original post by SuperKell)
    Possessions can remind you of experiences.
    Possessions that you obtain during or because of experiences. Without the experience, there wouldn't be the possession.

    Or that's where sentimental value comes in to play.
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    I wish someone had told me this earlier in the year. I worked 35 hours per week when I was finished college in summer and spent £900 on an amp head that I have used a handful of times and is a fairly large penis extension to show off to about 0.00000000001% of the population. I sold my leeds festival ticket, decided against holidaying with the lads, kept off the alcohol to save money up to buy stuff and this year has sucked because of it. Silly me.

    The best time of my life was the last year of school and the first year of college when I had no car/money/job. I'm looking forward to being skint when I go to uni next year. Sell my car for alcohol and fun times and be myself again.

    Damn this year has took it out of me
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    (Original post by Danamaganza)
    Ok, lets split the possesion into the necessary and unnecessary... Obviously, sometimes, a car is necessary. Recent events in my life have made me realise an iPhone or PS3, etc, isn't necessary, necessarily. lol.

    (Wanna travel europe with us? 3rd person welcome)
    I have no money
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    (Original post by Danamaganza)
    Possessions that you obtain during or because of experiences. Without the experience, there wouldn't be the possession.

    Or that's where sentimental value comes in to play.
    There is no real difference between gaining a possession during or because of an experience because they are both tied to that.

    Every possession you have can has a story behind it though, even if its not awesome.
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    (Original post by DH-Biker)
    I disagree...
    For example, I'm going to be spending my money soon on a Trek Session 88.
    It will be far more useful then an experience as I can actually use this at any time in the future... What will I use an experience for apart from a direct situation which may require me to remember it...? The Trek I can use at any point in the future, it will benefit me far more, and it will have a direct use in my life from now on...
    Surely that's a situation when spending money on something materialistic is better... No?
    Unsurprisingly, the entire population of tsr who don't know about the fitness section are the guys playing video games all day. The difference of a gaming console and bike is huge!

    The amount of fun health and enjoyment not to mention socialising on a bike makes it a different tool from a console that isolates you. Not, hating on you guys, but it is obvious that for instance buying the best snowboard and hitting Switzerland every month (or even your dry slope) is the product of a possession producing and providing situations for great memories.
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    No kidding...
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    (Original post by Mister Bean)
    If you have to choose between buying something or spending the money on a memorable experience, go with the experience. According to a study conducted at San Francisco State University, the things you own can't make you as happy as the things you do. One reason is adaptation: we adapt to all things material in our lives in a matter of weeks, no matter how infatuated we were with the coveted possession the day we got it. Another reason is that experience, unlike possession, generally involves other people, and fosters or strengthens relationships that are more edifying over time than owning something.

    Take the advice, yo.
    You're telling me the white man needs some fancy ass university to tell him this ****?
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    (Original post by yituool)
    You're telling me the white man needs some fancy ass university to tell him this ****?
    A lot of people in general tend to forget about the whole theory, thus putting possessions before experiences and they wonder why they regret it.
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    (Original post by EarlHickey)
    I see arguments both ways, I come from a poor family so am a mini hoarder as such.

    Up till 4 years ago, my possessions were like a PS2, Xbox and gamecube and a 20" CRT tv and a pc, I was happy with them, and enjoyed going for a drink.

    However even then I thought to myself, why go out and spend money on a night out, perhaps more than once a week then next morning feel ill and have nothing to show for it when that same cash could of bought me some video games, or a take away and luxuries for a few days and/or things like pay a entire months electricity bill etc.

    The problem I have now is I am at a situation where I am stuck in the middle, havent been on a night out since New Years Eve last year, had about 4 drinks in a bar all year, wheras 2 years ago I went out about 2 or 3 times a month, would go to a bar for a hour or two if bored, buy a takeaway if hungry(as a replacement for the days food) or bought a few cans of beer and drank those instead of going out.

    I stil have some large WKDs I bought around Feburary this year unopened in fridge still!

    Point is dont go too far in one way or other i.e all work and no play is similar idea, go for a drink and have a good time if you want, just dont do it so much that it loses its meaning, and dont buy every new gadget you can at the expense of not socialising.
    Doesn't sound like it...
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    what about negative experiences which eventually build who you are?
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    (Original post by plopSDCSDC)
    what about negative experiences which eventually build who you are?
    This is a very hard one however I'm someone who has been lucky and unlucky enough to go through AMAZING and AWFUL experiences, which ultimately made me into the person I am today.

    I have also grown up surrounded by ALOT of money & possessions and can proudly say they mean nothing an example of this is when I was 14 and spent £3,000 in a month on clothes and shopping (don't ask, long story).

    I had many possessions but where are those clothes I bought today? My parents have lavished so much on material items for me over the years that is all they were ' material items'.

    These items meant nothing when I fell into depression and was admitted to a mental health unit on suicide watch after my cousin's suicide (who also had many possessions) or when I rose above it and got flying colours in my A Levels and got into UCL , my top choice for law.

    When I reflect on my life I remember the smiles, the cries and the intense feelings which made me who I am today. I never remember the apple mac laptop I was bought when I was 12 or the designer clothes I always wore or the cars e.t.c

    Experience will ALWAYS win over possesions.

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    (Original post by EskimoJo)
    Doesn't sound like it...
    Why do you say that? for one its been 11 years since I left home and its obvious for some of that I must of worked for periods of time hence everything I own, I managed to save about £1500 in a yaer working part time but that was mostly down to the fact at the time I lived off bread pasta and basically Tesco value products and didnt go drinking much, and of course there exists student overdrafts etc.
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    (Original post by PortiaLovesMcqueen)
    This is a very hard one however I'm someone who has been lucky and unlucky enough to go through AMAZING and AWFUL experiences, which ultimately made me into the person I am today.

    I have also grown up surrounded by ALOT of money & possessions and can proudly say they mean nothing an example of this is when I was 14 and spent £3,000 in a month on clothes and shopping (don't ask, long story).

    I had many possessions but where are those clothes I bought today? My parents have lavished so much on material items for me over the years that is all they were ' material items'.

    These items meant nothing when I fell into depression and was admitted to a mental health unit on suicide watch after my cousin's suicide (who also had many possessions) or when I rose above it and got flying colours in my A Levels and got into UCL , my top choice for law.

    When I reflect on my life I remember the smiles, the cries and the intense feelings which made me who I am today. I never remember the apple mac laptop I was bought when I was 12 or the designer clothes I always wore or the cars e.t.c

    Experience will ALWAYS win over possesions.

    Well sounds like you remember them well enough to me!

    I suppose thats another part of it, money. If you have money you could say that you appreciate things that dont come from money, just like someone without money could say they had a not very nice life that money would make better.

    On another note, I have had similar experiences from the other end of the spectrum, poor parents but they did care for me(though my dad is meant to be bi polar and had mood swings a lot) then my brothers fiance was murdered and my brother was (wrongfully) accused and the EVIL social workers took my brothers 1 year old daughter away with the excuse until someone was sent to jail for the murder "he was a suspect" then as it took like 2 years to sort they ended up breaking rules(and maybe the law) by getting her adopted into a Christian family who were telling her that her parents were evil for having sex before marriage and everything(this is true as they sent a letter to social workers saying we shouldnt have contact due to our values!)

    Off topic a bit sorry but I was basically saying like you were, that certain things affect your outlook

    My life has been all awful in many ways, so even the good things are so little that it cant affect too much, I was badly bullied at school due to parents being poor.

    However this is why I prefer possesions than experiences since experiences feel like they can come and go then I have nothing to show.

    That and the fact that I cannot drink alcohol without feeling 1 pint makes me want to collapse.
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    (Original post by EarlHickey)
    Well sounds like you remember them well enough to me!

    I suppose thats another part of it, money. If you have money you could say that you appreciate things that dont come from money, just like someone without money could say they had a not very nice life that money would make better.

    On another note, I have had similar experiences from the other end of the spectrum, poor parents but they did care for me(though my dad is meant to be bi polar and had mood swings a lot) then my brothers fiance was murdered and my brother was (wrongfully) accused and the EVIL social workers took my brothers 1 year old daughter away with the excuse until someone was sent to jail for the murder "he was a suspect" then as it took like 2 years to sort they ended up breaking rules(and maybe the law) by getting her adopted into a Christian family who were telling her that her parents were evil for having sex before marriage and everything(this is true as they sent a letter to social workers saying we shouldnt have contact due to our values!)

    Off topic a bit sorry but I was basically saying like you were, that certain things affect your outlook

    My life has been all awful in many ways, so even the good things are so little that it cant affect too much, I was badly bullied at school due to parents being poor.

    However this is why I prefer possesions than experiences since experiences feel like they can come and go then I have nothing to show.

    That and the fact that I cannot drink alcohol without feeling 1 pint makes me want to collapse.
    This is very interesting Earl, I won't go into detail however even though my family had money we had many troubles (sister in jail for a year,father's drinking even though he was a private health doctor and knew the consequences , drugs, etc) and I think with people like you and I who have been unfortunate ( or fortunate however you see it) enough to have gone through these things our outlook definitely changes.

    I think in your case money was absent in my case it was present, in many ways I always envy 'poor' people because a lot of their problems would be solved by things money can buy however, when you have money and your plagued by problems your money can't get you out of it burns, I have had two suicides in my family and these were by people who believed material was all that mattered however they still suffered depression as their money couldn't buy them happiness.

    I have a lot to 'show' for myself however it doesn't really mean anything. I can't explain it but after having so much material around me from an early age it has lost it's value. I feel most whole when I'm volunteering with homeless people,I have met some of the most amazing, genuine people there, these people and places are what makes me happiest and whole, money or possessions can't give me that.

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    (Original post by PortiaLovesMcqueen)
    This is very interesting Earl, I won't go into detail however even though my family had money we had many troubles (sister in jail for a year,father's drinking even though he was a private health doctor and knew the consequences , drugs, etc) and I think with people like you and I who have been unfortunate ( or fortunate however you see it) enough to have gone through these things our outlook definitely changes.

    I think in your case money was absent in my case it was present, in many ways I always envy 'poor' people because a lot of their problems would be solved by things money can buy however, when you have money and your plagued by problems your money can't get you out of it burns, I have had two suicides in my family and these were by people who believed material was all that mattered however they still suffered depression as their money couldn't buy them happiness.

    I have a lot to 'show' for myself however it doesn't really mean anything. I can't explain it but after having so much material around me from an early age it has lost it's value. I feel most whole when I'm volunteering with homeless people,I have met some of the most amazing, genuine people there, these people and places are what makes me happiest and whole, money or possessions can't give me that.

    Insightful post
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    The closest thing I have to a life philosophy...
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    (Original post by DeanK22)
    Unsurprisingly, the entire population of tsr who don't know about the fitness section are the guys playing video games all day. The difference of a gaming console and bike is huge!

    The amount of fun health and enjoyment not to mention socialising on a bike makes it a different tool from a console that isolates you. Not, hating on you guys, but it is obvious that for instance buying the best snowboard and hitting Switzerland every month (or even your dry slope) is the product of a possession producing and providing situations for great memories.
    True Dean, very true. (Haven't seen you outside the Cyclist Society, actually. )

    I've got a console as well as a PC and when I use to play 'em both online a lot, I had some great laughs on games like CSS and GTA IV. Playing Prison Break on CSS with the Clan had some terrific laughs, but suppose, can you really count laughs and experiences in the same category? Either way, there is a massive difference, I agree.

    Yeah, that's also very true. I'd rather go shredding with my guy and girl mates from school then sit in my room and use the internet to talk to them... I just find it so much nicer to be actually in person, rather then talking, essentially, to a screen...
    Still, whilst its not our place to discredit those who do, I'm sure many hardcore gamers would change too if they went out and found a sport they enjoyed. Sport is, (as long as its a healthy sport that doesn't have inter-fighting like football, etc) a great way to make friends. Having a laugh, meeting people and generally just having the time of your life every time you do it. I really can't abide people who are real sore losers or sore winners, though. My friends and I, when we ride, are competitive and we all show off, but we never boast about who's better or not. If someone has a light accident we have a laugh, "way" them and all that jazz, but as soon as someone seriously injures themselves, we are all concerned...
    However, we've had people just come with us sometimes. They come, often, with good intentions. But just act like tossers when you're shredding. These people, 9/10 are people who just exclude themselves from everyone else. We try and include them, but they just act the prat and then we exclude them again. This isn't always the case, but more often then not it is.

    Doesn't even have to be the best snowboard. Hell, grab a ****ty one off a mate who use to do it... Same with a bike. Just go out and have a laugh. I still chuckle at the laughs the Clan and I use to have on games, but they are no where near as hilarious nor as numerous as the laughs I've had actually being outside. The experiences, likewise, are just so much more vivid and 'there' then ones over a computer screen. Like Dean said, not hating, (I think we're both gamers ourselves), but many gamers (not necessarily ones on TSR), do need to get out more and really socialize...

    Meh, a fairly weak reply - Bottom line is, Dean's right. Buying things you need often does lead to some great experiences. There are some instances where not buying things and going for the fun of it is a good thing, don't get me wrong. However, if I may use a case I've seen before; coming to a place you're going for a laugh with the wrong equipment and probably the wrong state of mind, will lead to bad experiences.
    My friends and I know a kid who came with us with an Apollo, (for those of you who aren't aware of the heinous track record Apollo has, they are the equivalent of the Austin Princess - If you don't know what that is, look up "s**t" and you'll have a good idea of the line we're on). Still, this guy came with us, after about 10 mins on the runs, his bike snapped, he broke his leg and arm and went home with a pretty bad taste in his mouth of riding.

    That's a scenario where having the material side allows you to fully enjoy the experience side...
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    (Original post by Danamaganza)
    And mate, thats some nice bike right there... in this case, material possesion is going to lead to some good experiences. Think about it... Playing COD constantly is materail possesion, not an ecperience.
    Cheers bro, she'll be a fine addition, that's for certain.
    You're right, it will. My other bikes have lead to some terrific experiences, and this will be no different.

    That is a good example; can't say CoD isn't sometimes a laugh and a bit of fun, but in moderation ONLY. If I was to go shredding with my mates from school all the time, it would still be both fun and I would have some great experiences. It is just so much nicer to really socialize, over talking to a screen... :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Mister Bean)
    A lot of people in general tend to forget about the whole theory, thus putting possessions before experiences and they wonder why they regret it.
    **** that cracker, universities should be finding aliens and curing cancer and ****
 
 
 
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