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      All these 'devil dog' stories have made me slightly afraid of certain dogs.
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      Ahh man, AGREED!

      I go riding with my dogs. And I walk them up to the gate that leads to the fell and let them off from there. Quite often, there's walkers ahead of me with dogs, and instead of doing what could be considered the decent thing and walking to the left a tiny bit after the gate so I can bike off ahead and not be trailing behind them the whole way; they keep going and I've got to trail behind them ALL the way up the fell...
      It annoys me to the point of screaming at them. Just move out the way a tiny bit, you can even keep walking, just let me get past. I'll even go to the left, but they keep going till the path this so I can't!
      There's very few Dog Owners I know that are good. Most of the good ones are the Racist, BNP divs who go on the Shoots with my Step-Dad and I. Sad, really, that such people should be the ones who are best at being out with dogs. :rolleyes:
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      (Original post by ArcadiaHouse)
      All these 'devil dog' stories have made me slightly afraid of certain dogs.
      Honestly don't be afraid of any breed. There are some that have varying temperaments, but its true that its the owner and not the dog. The dog's mentality often doesn't help, but its the Owner making stupid decisions, or the people approaching the dog making stupid decisions, that lead to bites.
      Dogs see certain things as challenges to them. One is silly people who walk over to other people's dogs, start petting them, crowding them and making lots of noise.
      Of course the dogs going to be scared in that situation, but people do it anyway...

      So unless you're one of those people, you need not fear.
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      Just put the dog on the lead, and pick up its ****, how stupid can some people get?
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      (Original post by Ministerdonut)
      I would think GBH.
      It would have to be Section 20 GBH though, as it was purely reckless in the malicious wounding... 5 year sentence sounds about right... And they shouldn't be allowed to own a pet for the rest of their life... For some sad, sad people, that would be a life sentence.
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      I hate people like that :/

      My dog has issues with some people and dogs, but he is always on his lead; and we're working on them. I think he was abused as a puppy, poor thing.

      I hate people who thing all dogs should be like super well trained immediately... the other day I was walking him down this alley and this man started riding down it on a quad bike, my dog has never seen a quad bike before and he started barking at it, the man just SAT there on the quad bike staring at me trying to calm my dog down (instead of, you know, GOING o.o) and then he shouted "TRAIN YOUR DOG YOU IDIOT" o.O
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      (Original post by d123)
      I see what you're saying. I personally don't see the attraction in owning those ultra-dangerous breeds of dog. I know people who have been attacked by Rottweilers etc and it's not nice - although I'm a cat person, so wouldn't want to own any sort of dog, I can see the attraction in Labradors, and others 'nice' types. Pitbulls and Rottweilers, not so much.

      I'm not sure whether charging the dog's owner with GBH is the right route though, although some sort of tightening of the law regarding ownership of such dogs might be a solution.
      nah, rottweilers can actually be lovely dogs with the right owner

      i think part of the problem is that people focus too much on what the dog looks like or what the 'cool' dog is, without really researching which breed they're suited with.

      i hate hearing that some people get breeds like rottweilers to protect them and scare people - true they do make a good deterrent (who wouldn't **** themselves a bit if they tried to burgle a house only to be greeted with a rottweiler as opposed to a shihtzu?) but there's a line between abusing that and taking it too far by making your dog aggressive, and helping your rottweiler to become the confident dog it's meant to be

      shame about the german shepherd they're excellent dogs.
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      I'm annoyed at this whole "aggressive breed" - it's all to do with training, being spoilt, being left to run wild. Any dog can be brought up to be a wonderful pet 'aggressive and illegal' or not > : (

      A lot of owners are just moronic about owning and treating dogs. Arg, this topic annoys me so much! Dogs shouldn't be punished for this behaviour - they should be put into rehab > : (
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      Mayden, I completley agree.

      It's not the poor dogs fault. It's the owners who fail to train their dogs properly or mistreat them.

      Any dog can be trained to be great dogs and brilliant pets. It's just unfortunate that a lot of breeds have a bad reputation.
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      Gawd, this is a subject which I really have an issue with!

      I have two absolutely lovely rescue lurchers. Both are brilliant with people and kids and one is fantastic with other dogs - he'll never start a fight or fight back.

      The other one is very nervous of dogs she doesn't know, we believe she was kept with another dog/dogs which used to attack her as she has various scars which would support this - she has to get to know other dogs by, for example, going on a walk with them and just being allowed to go and sniff at them at her own pace. A dog coming bounding up to her with no introduction is, to her, terrifying and she will react.

      For this reason, we keep her on a lead all the time when there may be dogs she doesn't know around. One particular event, which I think was the worst I've had with her was when my mum came over to take my dogs for a walk with me - we encountered a guy with two labs off lead on a path and I went ahead and asked him to call them back to him and explained why as they were running towards my mum who was holding my dog. He just went 'oh, right' and didn't bloody bother. His dogs were literally jumping all over my dog, who was on lead and absolutely terrified and he had paid absolutely no regard. Cue my mum getting accidentally bitten by my dog as she was trying to defend herself against these labs jumping on her.

      Couldn't believe the stupidity of the man.
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      (Original post by Ministerdonut)
      I mean is there some form of retardation,that has become more common recently? or is this idiocy just peculiar to dog owners?

      Just read a story in the local news about a jogger being attacked when he ran past a large leashed german shepherd ,the jogger suffered thigh injuries and a ruputured testicle :eek:

      Said in article, that the dog was put down ,due to the seriousness of the joggers injuries and it wasn't the dogs first offence apparently. Now I think people these days are far more selfish and perhaps some dog owners aren't excused from that,so maybe they think I don't care that my dog has a problem and has been in trouble Iam not taking steps to safeguard members of the public,by muzzling it for instance and taking it to a dog behaviourist.

      But even then ,surely if you care about your own dog, you would realise the concequences for him/her would be grave if they seriously attacked someone,especially as it wasn't that dogs first offence? I don't think it's enough to destroy these dogs, personally, I think we need to treat the dogs action as the action of the owner when the owner knew full well the dog had a problem. So for instance in this case,due to the injuries to the jogger,I would think GBH.
      The problem is that a lot of people think 'oh I want a cute little cuddly pet doggie, that will wag it's tail at me' - hence they rush out and buy a pet.
      BUT for the majority of people they don't realise that a dog, especially a bigger breed, is just as much work as a small child.
      They don't think how much care and attention it will require - hence they don't do the job properly and turn out little ****s.

      [the same principle actually applies towards idiots who give birth before they're ready and raise little charvs]

      I think there isn't any easy ways to solve the problem, apart from tightening the rules around ownership of dogs - especially big breeds that require more care.
      Maybe pet-shops should do a background check, or a house check [big dog = needs a big house + yard] before selling an animal, to make sure it's being taken into good hands.
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        (Original post by DESC2301)
        Any dog can be trained to be great dogs and brilliant pets. .
        I agree with everything you say but this. Not all dogs are able to be 'great' dogs for what the avaerage joe public want, or even good as companion animals (pets) Many want a loyal biddable companion that is at least averagely easy to train, or in the very least will be somewhat able to be trained... there are many who DO believe exactly what you say and think they can turn any dog into an average pet.

        An example of such a dog are many of the asian guarding breeds, some Nordic breeds, and other 'pariah' dogs and livestock breeds - many of these are just not bred to be companionable animals, and most rely on breed instincts to do their required job in life.... but this also comes onto more common dogs such as collies and shepherds, of which many of the working-line dogs need vats volumes of trainign and socialisation and stimulation to be 'moulded' into a dog people would want to live with...

        people just dont do their research, and this is another reason i think that a dog liscense would be an idea the government may have to think seriously about.
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        (Original post by MovingOn)
        Idiots exist across all colours and creeds, dog walkers aren't exempt from this!

        what she said ^^^
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        (Original post by Aj12)
        Ah German shepard's an amazing breed. They are not generally aggressive unless the owner is a complete tool.
        Definately agreed... I don't think a dog should be let off lead, unless it will sit and wait when asked, or come back straight away...

        If my dog isn't listening, or behaving, she isn't allowed off the lead, and will be put on her 15m training line instead.
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        I used to own 2 german shepherds and a boxer. I now own 2 cocker spaniel puppies (not because I can't handle bigger dogs but they are irresistable ) anyway, my 2 german shepherds had the loveliest temper. They never strayed too far away from me during walks and they certainly never attacked other dogs/people. My cocker spaniels won't be off the lead during walks until I have trained them to come back when I call them and to generally be nice dogs. I think people seriously need to consider getting a dog. They're high responsibility, they need to be trained and looked after properly. If you can't handle a dog enough so that it doesn't bite or act aggressive, get a goldfish

        I also think it's down to the owner, not the dog. Our boxer was 2/3 years old when we got him and he attacked other dogs during walks (we got him a muzzle and a harness) and we think this was down to his previous owners. I also think it helps for dogs to be social. Joining puppy classes is a good way to get your dog to meet other dogs
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        We have three Staffordshire bull terriers. Several times over the last decade, we are walking our dogs on the lead, and a random dog - no lead, no owner in sight - will suddenly run over to our dog, and naturally, a fight ensues. Then the flustered owner comes running over from the distance and starts shouting that our dogs are dangerous and violent - our dogs are on the lead! How on earth could you possible construe this to be our fault?!
       
       
       
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