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    (Original post by lukejoshjedi)
    lol true. The point I'm trying to make is that if certain creative and enterprising humans could think up things like Hyperspace, warp Speed (In Star Trek, Star Wars etc) wormholes - then logically significantly advanced Aliens would have already thought of and are already using something, maybe something we haven't even thought of yet to travel around Galaxies, inter-stellar space etc etc and easily could have already visited us without us knowing
    But... Hyperspace and Warp Speed aren't actually real concepts in science. Wormholes are also natural phenomena and are generally considered unstable and unsuitable for travel.

    But yes, Aliens developing FTL travel is probably completely unrelated to human conceptions. I hope the first Aliens we meet are like Vorlons and not the Centauri :ahee:
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    (Original post by Wasted Wrath)
    Apparently they visited in 1997, you missed the boat:
    http://www.heavensgate.com/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%...gious_group%29
    Alien Abduction Insurance has it's own page on Wikipedia... :facepalm2:
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    You're all looking way too much into this.

    They're all just a bit shy.
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    (Original post by Drunk Punx)
    Alien Abduction Insurance has it's own page on Wikipedia... :facepalm2:
    The fact that it exists is mroe worrying than the wikipedia page.
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    (Original post by Fusilero)
    The fact that it exists is mroe worrying than the wikipedia page.
    That came as an afterthought :lol:

    What's more worrying is that according to the page, over 20,000 people have purchased the insurance.

    "At a cost of roughly $155 a year the GRIP policy would pay about $160,000 to someone who could show that they had been abducted by a being who was not from Earth. The payment would double if the insured person was impregnated during the event. Men were also able to purchase the impregnation insurance for protection against the unknown capabilities of alien technology"

    I almost lmao'd myself to death.
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    Perhaps they look upon us and our silly primitive tribal ways and think why bother with this planet? Why bother with a species that clearly lacks the intelligence to form a coherent central planetary government, why bother with a species that still makes war on itself for silly reasons such as religion and nationalism, why bother with a species that cannot sustain and feed its entire population?

    If there is a species out there with technology so advanced they can cross the vast distances between individual stars, they probably look upon us as primitive simpletons.
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    Possibly because they see us a primative race and feel that they shouldnt mix with such beings due to the fact that we fight amongst ourselves even though at the end of the day we are all human. Also they may want us to develop further on our own rather than just go to them for help and new technology all the time, who knows maybe they are just waiting for us to achieve light speed and prove ourselves as a worthy race.
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    (Original post by fire2burn)
    Perhaps they look upon us and our silly primitive tribal ways and think why bother with this planet? Why bother with a species that clearly lacks the intelligence to form a coherent central planetary government, why bother with a species that still makes war on itself for silly reasons such as religion and nationalism, why bother with a species that cannot sustain and feed its entire population?

    If there is a species out there with technology so advanced they can cross the vast distances between individual stars, they probably look upon us as primitive simpletons.
    Basically.. yeah, more or less what I was thinking

    Like going out on a night in New Jersey and or watching Jersey Shore in general
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    (Original post by Fusilero)
    You cannot, in traditional physics, travel faster than the speed of light. As you approach the speed of light the required energy to produce the velocity tends to infinity.
    You don't have to travel faster than light. If you accelerated at 9.8m/s^2 for 14 years, then decelerated for 14 years at the same rate, you'd be about 2 million light years away when you came to rest. But only 28 years would have passed for you.
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    (Original post by SsEe)
    You don't have to travel faster than light. If you accelerated at 9.8m/s^2 for 14 years, then decelerated for 14 years at the same rate, you'd be about 2 million light years away when you came to rest. But only 28 years would have passed for you.
    Damn you special relativity. I can't check your maths because I never went beyond Physics AS, you win this time.

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    Am I the only one that feels really sad when they realise we'll probabley miss commercial space travel and interplanetary colonialisation by a couple of hundred years?
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    (Original post by lukejoshjedi)
    I'd like to assume and believe one and many exist anyway, it's an interesting thought rather than the depressing one that the Human race is the only sentient, highly intelligent and fairly advanced civilization in our galaxy and by extension (The universe)

    So they exist. They've seen our radio signals, seen our little lumps of metal with outdated radio transmitters and equipment being sent out into space all over the solar system, Voyager 1 and 2 may have flown right by their giant (probably invisible) spaceships while they laughed at them

    They've seen Earth and have mapped our planet, know of us as the Human race, a civilized (to most extents) and sufficiently advanced civilization (to be engaged in rudimentary space travel and exploration) - and know all about us

    But they're refusing to make themselves known, start trade, communications or relations with us and our planet as a whole. Why?

    Would it just end up being like 'V' in real life? (An alien race show up out of the blue, have 29 massive spaceships hover over our major cities under the pretense of peace and a relationship but are actually sinister and want to take over our world for resources or whatever, enslave the human race blah blah blah) or just refer to any alien invasion movie ever made

    Would visiting aliens making themselves known simply always be hostile or oppressive to us eventually?

    It begs the question, if they're so advanced and above us in every way, why even bother coming to our earth and having any relations with us as we wouldn't benefit or affect them in anyway - thus we would never know they exist as they wouldn't want us to know
    Space is vast.

    As an intelligent civilization grows, their population expands and it consumes resources at an ever increasing rate. Therefore they must expand their sphere of influence at a corresponding rate. However, as the volume of the sphere grows larger greater to relative distance travelled from a given start point, they must travel faster to colonise star systems

    Soon this rate of expansion will reach the speed of light. They cannot travel faster than this. They run out of resources and die out.

    Cycle repeats.
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    Do you communicate with fleas? I shouldn't have thought so.
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    (Original post by lukejoshjedi)
    I'd like to assume and believe one and many exist anyway, it's an interesting thought rather than the depressing one that the Human race is the only sentient, highly intelligent and fairly advanced civilization in our galaxy and by extension (The universe)

    So they exist. They've seen our radio signals, seen our little lumps of metal with outdated radio transmitters and equipment being sent out into space all over the solar system, Voyager 1 and 2 may have flown right by their giant (probably invisible) spaceships while they laughed at them

    They've seen Earth and have mapped our planet, know of us as the Human race, a civilized (to most extents) and sufficiently advanced civilization (to be engaged in rudimentary space travel and exploration) - and know all about us

    But they're refusing to make themselves known, start trade, communications or relations with us and our planet as a whole. Why?

    Would it just end up being like 'V' in real life? (An alien race show up out of the blue, have 29 massive spaceships hover over our major cities under the pretense of peace and a relationship but are actually sinister and want to take over our world for resources or whatever, enslave the human race blah blah blah) or just refer to any alien invasion movie ever made

    Would visiting aliens making themselves known simply always be hostile or oppressive to us eventually?

    It begs the question, if they're so advanced and above us in every way, why even bother coming to our earth and having any relations with us as we wouldn't benefit or affect them in anyway - thus we would never know they exist as they wouldn't want us to know
    DOODE, did you not see 'District 9'?!
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    They'd upset all the religious people.
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    It's very arrogant to suggest that they haven't/don't visit earth, have you looked for any evidence or are you assuming?
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    Why would u come to this planet to greet humans. We kill each other because people have different beliefs or skin colour and we are slowly poisoning the planet. **** if i was an an alien id stay well clear of Earth !!!!
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    (Original post by Ash1ir)
    It's very arrogant to suggest that they haven't/don't visit earth, have you looked for any evidence or are you assuming?
    Well judging by the fact that we're not surrounded by a race of creatures which arrived in spacecraft we can safely say they haven't visited us any time soon. There's nothing to say alien's haven't visited us in the past, but if they did they covered their tracks pretty well.
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    (Original post by Traceur)
    DOODE, did you not see 'District 9'?!
    yeah, I have. What's your point? It's funny how they flipped the whole alien visitor scenario, we'd be the Aliens in District 9 eventually, if the Aliens were aggressive
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    Maybe they haven't yet run out of the H2O reserves on their planet yet.

    But don't worry, as soon as they do they will be on their way here, because Earth is the only planet in th universe with liquid H2O, apparently. And also, the aliens lack the technology to melt ice, so they'll be coming here no doubt.
 
 
 
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