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Reply 20

evilheat

President_Ben

SSEES is a backdoor into UCL in my opinion. By grade requirement, it certainly looks llike it...

What are the usual grades required for Social Sciences / History at SSEES? ABB? Language degrees always have lower requirements, but that's normal, eh? Why the snobbery by the way, wouldn't the fact that SSEES merged with UCL prove that UCL deemed SSEES good enough to be affiliated with UCL?

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Reply 21

thecooldude

lol thank you evilheat

I totally agree with you...

I'm choosing SSEES over BA War Studies at KCL because I think the SSEES is great (as well as BSc social policy at LSE - but I didn't actually want to go there from the start - in case you're wondering why: the course is really boring and LSE's atmosphere really doesn't appeal to me)

Did you guys know that it started off as a department at KCL when it was first created in 1915?

It's one of the best institutes world-wide for that region

A lot of Prime ministers, foreign ministers etc from that region regularly visit the SSEES to give talks - in fact His Excellency Václav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic addressed the opening ceremony of the new SSEES building last October...

If it was really a sub par university why would they bother?

If you're really into that part of the world, in my opinion there is no better place in the UK to do a specialised study in that region at undergraduate level
(at graduate you have oxford - russian and east european studies)

I honestly don't think it is poor at all - it was rated one of the excellent departments at UCL by the Times Good University Guide 2005:

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/pdfs/uk39.pdf

to be honest I trust the Times...their ratings are fairly good (as good as league tables can get...which in themselves suck on the whole) they arent as biased as the Guardian's...

of course, this is just my own opinion......

:cool:

Reply 22

thecooldude

what courses are you going to do evilheat and President_Ben and where?

cheers

Reply 23

President_Ben

I am doing straight Economics at UCL. 2nd year at the moment. SSEES is good to the extent that virtually no one does what it does. Average (mean, mode and median) SSEES entry is BBB with the mean slightly higher.

The average among the 'straight' UCL courses is AAB/AAA.

Reply 24

evilheat

I'm waiting for History V101. Was rejected by V100 History but was offered to be considered for V101, which looks like an interesting course.

Reply 25

President_Ben

evilheat

I'm waiting for History V101. Was rejected by V100 History but was offered to be considered for V101, which looks like an interesting course.

Says something about V101 though, doesn't it?

Kind of implies it isn't up there with V100 and doesn't get all that many applicants.

Reply 26

evilheat

President_Ben

Says something about V101 though, doesn't it?

Kind of implies it isn't up there with V100 and doesn't get all that many applicants.

Yes, V100 is the traditional History degree at UCL so obviously it's more popular. As for the 'isn't up there' comment, I don't know, what do you base that on? The modules seem quite traditional. Do you really think it would make such a difference doing V101 as opposed to V100?

Reply 27

President_Ben

'Up there' is partly a measure of how hard the course is to get onto. The more difficult, typically, the higher calibre of person on it and so, the better the degree because it can be taught to a higher standard.

Reply 28

thecooldude

yeah that's what I find fascinating about SSEES...I agree that it might not be for everyone - e.g. if you aren't interested in studying about that region..but then not everyone is interested in other subjects...different people have different interests

I felt that it would be interesting to take a rather unique course at undergraduate level - especially at UCL that has so many random and interesting courses that one probably wouldn't study otherwise

actually entry requirements have been bumped up to ABB (as a lot of other UCL courses that were BBB last year or the year before - I've seen it happen: other siblings have gone to UCL and their entry requirements were low - my brother's entry requirement for Biochemistry 5 years ago was BBC!)

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate-degrees/ssees/social-science/index.shtml

(hence everyone this year that received offers got ABB)

a lot of other courses at UCL have ABB entry requirements
(I just went down the list of a couple of courses to see what I would find..interesting...with some there's a lot of variation - e.g. AAB to BBB entry requirements to some courses)

Ancient World Studies - ABB
Anthropology - AAB - ABB
Applied Physics - AAB - BBB
Archeology - ABB - BBB
Architecture - ABB
Astronomy - AAB - BBB
Astrophysics - AAB - BBB
Audiology - BBB

Biochemical Engineering - AAB - BBB

ok so I got bored of seeing all those AAB - BBB...I don't understand that..there's quite a difference between AAB and BBB...

and instead clicked on a couple of random courses:

Dutch: BBB
Hebrew: BBB
Classics: ABB
Icelandic - BBB
Italian - BBB
Jewish History - BBB
Viking Studies - BBB
Urban Studies - BBB
Project Management for Construction - BBB
Pharmacology - ABB - BBB
Linguistics - ABB - BBB

okay I didn't bother going through all of the courses! :eek:

as that would have taken forever! but basically a lot of UCL courses have lower entry requirements than AAA - AAB

Law and Economics everywhere tend to be heavily oversubscribed and hence most universities have higher entry requirements for those two subjects than their other subjects

:suitc:

Reply 29

jb_sweden

President_Ben

Go learn Swedish :p:

[...]

But learn Swedish with your loverboy :p:

Yes, and pay in kind!

But President Ben, loverboy? You must be mistaken. Try sex god.

Reply 30

TommehR

thecooldude

Law and Economics everywhere tend to be heavily oversubscribed and hence most universities have higher entry requirements for those two subjects than their other subject.

I think that the high entry requirements are also, to an extent a reflection of the fact that those two courses are quite academically rigorous (not that other courses aren't) and that they are probably the courses for which UCL is best known and respected.

Reply 31

POLAND CALLING!!!

Basically Ucl Rulez And Kings Is A Crap Uni!!!!!! Come To Ucl U Will Have Gd Time But They Both Rule In Terms Of Partying!!!!! In Terms Of Academics Ucl Rulez!!!

Reply 32

thecooldude

hahaha nice :biggrin:

Reply 33

thecooldude

what are you studying POLAND CALLING!!!?

Rulez?

OH!
I'm Burlington Burty
I'm short fat and dirty
My college portrays my high class
HIGH CLASS!
I walk down the Strand
with my cock in my hand
And I wave it at Kings as I pass

OH!
Burt, Burt,
I come in my shirt
At least I go to UC
UC!
One thing I am sure of
Strand Poly are ******s
I'm Burlington Burt from UC...
Thats me and him and her and her...

(note: song made before the incorporation of SSEES and while SSEES was still in Kings I should think)