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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Elaborate, people only laugh if they find something funny.
    I mean I don't think we choose what makes us laugh and what doesn't. Therefore it is questionable at best to judge someone's character/ethics by what happens to amuse them.
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    This is the biggest load of bull****... It seems like society has reached the extent of its evolution, and is now moving backwards.
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    (Original post by JRChapman)
    This is the biggest load of bull****... It seems like society has reached the extent of its evolution, and is now moving backwards.
    I assume you mean lad culture is bull****, rather than the report?
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    I assume you mean lad culture is bull****, rather than the report?
    No, I'm obviously referring to the report and the opinions of those who agree with it.
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    (Original post by Redolent)
    I mean I don't think we choose what makes us laugh and what doesn't. Therefore it is questionable at best to judge someone's character/ethics by what happens to amuse them.
    It's involuntary but dependent on a persons personality, the fact that i laugh at politically incorrect jokes (and correct jokes) probably evidences the fact that i'm extremely laid back and think minorities have too much unnecessary verbal protection.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    1) Were you actually sexually assaulted or raped, the two are technically different

    2) Given that both are crimes and the legal system favours women, did you have then arrested

    3) Do you really think these people did only to get glorification from their friends
    1. Both of these definitions overlap.
    2. No I did not, a. I had a mental breakdown b. I was by myself the night I just moved into student accommodation c. The legal system does not in any way shape or form favour women. If there is not any evidence or witness, the defendant can plead not guilty on the grounds the victim consented and there would be no proof that the victim didn't consent. Hence why a ridiculously small amount of victims report it and only why a fraction of those actually succeed.
    3. I believe that that is one main reason. Although there are plenty of other reasons. I did not anywhere say that that is the only reason.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    despite the fact that i have woman, black and gay friends.
    Wow. You actually managed to not only play the 'I'm not Xist, I have an X friend!' card, but to do so thrice in one sentence.

    Slow clap.
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    (Original post by knope)
    Wow. You actually managed to not only play the 'I'm not Xist, I have an X friend!' card, but to do so thrice in one sentence.

    Slow clap.
    To name one example..

    If i'm with a friend joking around and they say.. "If she's old enough to bleed then she's old enough to breed" does that make said friend a pedophile? No of course it does not because only lunatics would equate a verbal joke with an intended action.
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    (Original post by Tabzqt)
    Really? I don't think so. Rape is a bigger issue now than ever before.
    Also making a rape joke doesn't mean you condone rape.
    I believe joking about rape does increase a sort of mental tolerance of it. Same with racist jokes.
    Saying 'joking' at the end of a sentence makes it no less offensive. And it's a pathetic attempt at humour.

    But who are way to say such things, if after a survey, the majority of rape victims find it offensive and triggering (which I imagine they will) would you still condone it?
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    (Original post by Redolent)
    I mean I don't think we choose what makes us laugh and what doesn't. Therefore it is questionable at best to judge someone's character/ethics by what happens to amuse them.
    I agree that laughing is an involuntary action, but it isn't innate. What we find funny is influenced by the way we were brought up, who we socialise with, what experiences we have had etc. so I think it does indicate something about someone's character and their ethics. I don't find rape jokes funny and I think the reason for that is my political views. That says something about me, just as finding a rape joke funny would indicate something about them.
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    (Original post by pandabird)
    I believe joking about rape does increase a sort of mental tolerance of it. Same with racist jokes.
    Saying 'joking' at the end of a sentence makes it no less offensive. And it's a pathetic attempt at humour.
    Can you back this up in any way? Or is it just an assertion?

    But who are way to say such things, if after a survey, the majority of rape victims find it offensive and triggering (which I imagine they will) would you still condone it?
    No question. We shouldn't pander to a minority. Removing freedom of speech because a certain few may find some things offensive is ridiculous.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    To name one example..

    If i'm with a friend joking around and they say.. "If she's old enough to bleed then she's old enough to breed" does that make said friend a pedophile? No of course it does not because only lunatics would equate a verbal joke with an intended action.
    That's not even pedophilic anyway. So that's a bit redundant. Tell me a proper pedophilic joke?
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    (Original post by Tabzqt)
    Can you back this up in any way? Or is it just an assertion?



    No question. We shouldn't pander to a minority. Removing freedom of speech because a certain few may find some things offensive is ridiculous.
    Then it can be said that it's as equally ridiculous to criticise those who do find it offensive? How hard is it to be respectful? I believe that rape jokes, should be met with the same level of intolerance as black and Muslim racist jokes.
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    (Original post by pandabird)
    Then it can be said that it's as equally ridiculous to criticise those who do find it offensive?
    What? I understand that some people find rape jokes offensive. What I'm against is when they try to take away people's freedom to say those things. Just because you don't find them funny doesn't mean we should ban them entirely, and it certainly doesn't mean you should make up bull**** like "it encourages rapists" when it clearly doesn't.
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    (Original post by pandabird)
    I believe that rape jokes, should be met with the same level of intolerance as black and Muslim racist jokes.
    Um, if you have't noticed, rape jokes are actually quite taboo. You act like everyone is dancing round the streets yelling rape jokes to everyone. Typical feminist exaggeration.
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    (Original post by insignificant)
    Here is the link to an NUS study into women student experiences at University with regard to the 'lad' culture. It is incredibly insightful, has anyone else read it?
    http://www.nus.org.uk/Global/Campaig...inal%20web.pdf
    What is it with you females! You guys are always demanding equality when the current system is totally in favour of you guys!
    We spend far more money of Breast cancer then prostate cancer.
    We provide more help to single mums then we do to single dads.
    and now you guys want there to be a fairer female to male ratio in board rooms of multinational companies which i just find outrageous!

    The Lad culture at University exists, but have you guys ever thought why this is??
    Maybe because the current male students are unhappy with system!
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    (Original post by Tabzqt)
    Um, if you have't noticed, rape jokes are actually quite taboo. You act like everyone is dancing round the streets yelling rape jokes to everyone. Typical feminist exaggeration.
    Really? I disagree, the word 'rape' is thrown around a lot. Listen to yourself, you're so irrational. Why is it so hard to agree that rape jokes are offensive? For both males and females, I've mentioned no gender here, you are completely unjust and wrong in that last line. This is not a gender battle.
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    (Original post by Tabzqt)
    What? I understand that some people find rape jokes offensive. What I'm against is when they try to take away people's freedom to say those things. Just because you don't find them funny doesn't mean we should ban them entirely, and it certainly doesn't mean you should make up bull**** like "it encourages rapists" when it clearly doesn't.
    No one mentioned freedoms of speech here. But equally, you have to allow people to be offended by it.
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    (Original post by pandabird)
    Really? I disagree, the word 'rape' is thrown around a lot. Listen to yourself, you're so irrational. Why is it so hard to agree that rape jokes are offensive? For both males and females, I've mentioned no gender here, you are completely unjust and wrong in that last line. This is not a gender battle.
    Why is it so difficult? Simply because it's not offensive to people who have no experience. Why should i stop joking with a friend just because somebody i don't know may have experienced a trauma at the hands of somebody else i don't know.

    I know i'm not racist and i know a friend isn't racist so why can't we laugh about a joke.
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    (Original post by insignificant)
    1. Both of these definitions overlap.
    2. No I did not, a. I had a mental breakdown b. I was by myself the night I just moved into student accommodation c. The legal system does not in any way shape or form favour women. If there is not any evidence or witness, the defendant can plead not guilty on the grounds the victim consented and there would be no proof that the victim didn't consent. Hence why a ridiculously small amount of victims report it and only why a fraction of those actually succeed.
    3. I believe that that is one main reason. Although there are plenty of other reasons. I did not anywhere say that that is the only reason.
    Well yes they do to an extent insofar as if you've been raped you have been sexually assaulted, but if you've been sexually assaulted it does not necessarily mean you have been raped.

    Also. Saying you were both raped and sexually assaulted as a way of saying you were raped is pointless. Because rape by definition is a sexual assault.
 
 
 
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