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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Don't get me wrong, family friends at Oxbridge. Parents went to Oxford. Boarding School educated. I hate grammar school kids they act more posh and stuck up than anyone. Hate that god damn Made In Chelsea show and anyone who tries to act stuck up.

    But I just don't get on with State School kids, not a day goes by without them mentioning it, or mentioning I am a Rah because of the school I went too.

    Alot of them don't actually mind me but the Banter is so different.

    I can't stand these class divisions anymore. I feel like they are completely different.

    I just wish people would make it less of an issue, an end to this Class Warfare Please.
    I hate it when privately schooled kids are up themselves. Yeah, so your parents can afford to send you to private school. Congratulations, you are 0% responsible for that.
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    I went to a private school, my best friend went to a state school my boyfriend went to one of the worst state schools in our county do i care No. Maybe its becuase your still at school I know when I was at school there was certainly a feeling of them and us simply becuase people assume that when you go to private school your a stuck up spoilt brat who doesnt work for anything which is a load of bull but you can see why people think that.

    As soon as i left school though it was irrelevent my best friends at uni all went to state schools, yes i have to put up with alot of jokes about being a posh princess but nobody actually means it they all are joking about it.

    As regards to being sheltered its not true ive gone through a hell of alot of **** in my life its irrelevent what school i went to.

    So yes when your at school then maybe theres a 'class divide' but as soon as you leave school that becomes totally irelevent I have more friends from state schools than i do private
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    (Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
    This tbh. I don't bash people in general but I don't respect someone as much knowing that their parents protect them from 'real life' with a financial safety net.

    it's one thing to eat cheap noodles at uni 'for the experience', it's another to eat cheap noodles because you literally cannot budget for much better.
    my parents paid for my school but they dont have a saftey net for me, i had to work soild for 2 years to pay for my car, i have to buy my own food at home pay rent while im at home ive got loans for uni my parents literally pay for nothing. Yet i know people who went to state schools who are still living at home at 24/5 with their parents paying for their food doing their washing, who brought them their first car or pay their phone bill or buy them their clothes even give them a weekly allowance!. So you cant tar us all with the same brush we arnt all fed by a silver spoon all our lives
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    beomg a spoilt brat doesnt teachyou aboutthe real world so.i would say well done and assume they are not mean but are instead inteligent enough to realise if you never have to work.for anything you will.never know it's value

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    I'm a state school kid. I'm at Cambridge. My friend group is a more or less 50-50 split between state and private-schooled people. Contrary to popular belief, not all private-school kids are stuck-up posh *****, and not all state-school kids are scummy dirty lowlifes. If you find yourself disliking someone simply because of where they went to school, you seriously need to re-evaluate your priorities in life!
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Don't get me wrong, family friends at Oxbridge. Parents went to Oxford. Boarding School educated. I hate grammar school kids they act more posh and stuck up than anyone. Hate that god damn Made In Chelsea show and anyone who tries to act stuck up.

    But I just don't get on with State School kids, not a day goes by without them mentioning it, or mentioning I am a Rah because of the school I went too.

    Alot of them don't actually mind me but the Banter is so different.

    I can't stand these class divisions anymore. I feel like they are completely different.

    I just wish people would make it less of an issue, an end to this Class Warfare Please.
    never met a state school kid who uses the word rah.
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    (Original post by SleepySheep)
    never met a state school kid who uses the word rah.
    It gets said quite a lot at my school (a state grammar).

    I have to admit, from my experience I do feel a bit of sympathy for the OP's point of view. Whilst it's unfair to condemn all state school kids as being prejudiced against private school kids, it's certainly true that there's a lot of hate against people from private schools, even if they're not snobby or arrogant about it.

    I'll just give a couple of examples. First of all, I play hockey for a team in an old textile industry, working class Yorkshire town and whenever we play against two teams in particular (one from a more middle class town and one made up largely of kids from a private school) there's much more animosity and most of our team really want to 'stick it to those posh *****' even though I've never heard anyone on those teams be stuck up or posh because of background or education. Secondly, I'm hoping to apply for Oxford next year and I've been to a few Open Days where a lot of the other people there were from private schools and they were almost universally lovely people who only mentioned what school they went to when asked by someone else. There was no need to do what family and friends have said and 'stick up for myself with the snobs'.

    Basically, I don't understand why people judge others because of their background or the school they went to. Some private school kids are snobby, but from my experience the prejudice is stronger in the other direction.
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    Well you'll have to, you'll encounter them all of your life.

    David Cameron and Boris Johnsn didn't get where they got today without charming people.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Don't get me wrong, family friends at Oxbridge. Parents went to Oxford. Boarding School educated. I hate grammar school kids they act more posh and stuck up than anyone. Hate that god damn Made In Chelsea show and anyone who tries to act stuck up.

    But I just don't get on with State School kids, not a day goes by without them mentioning it, or mentioning I am a Rah because of the school I went too.

    Alot of them don't actually mind me but the Banter is so different.

    I can't stand these class divisions anymore. I feel like they are completely different.

    I just wish people would make it less of an issue, an end to this Class Warfare Please.
    Can I ask whether you know anyone who attends a grammar school as your opinion is very stereotypical? I have attended a state grammar school for the last 7 years and have friends who are from all backgrounds. I'm not posh or stuck up and have no problem with anyone from other schools as I would have attended a comprehensive if I hadn't for in and know that I am very lucky to go to my school. Perhaps you should understand that grammar school students don't all come from a wealthy background before making sweeping statements
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    (Original post by AnyRandomName)
    It gets said quite a lot at my school (a state grammar).
    Where do you live?

    Also.... "state grammar"?
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    (Original post by Wiska)
    Why? If their parents have the money to send their child there then why shouldn't they?
    \because why should wealth decide opportunity? It shouldn't, its inherently wrong and unequal, its bad for social mobility, social interaction (as demonstrated here) and probably bad for the economy too acc
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    (Original post by Jengineer95)
    \because why should wealth decide opportunity? It shouldn't, its inherently wrong and unequal, its bad for social mobility, social interaction (as demonstrated here) and probably bad for the economy too acc
    So parents with degrees shouldn't teach their children at home either as that is unfair right? Oh yeah, they shouldn't introduce them to family friends either if they're useful contacts.

    That's just silly, instead of wanting to improve public schools you want to bring private schools down?

    Grammar schools aside, most parents don't have faith in public schools - they simply don't push students enough, there will usually be disruptive pupils and they usually aren't very good at sorting out bullying. At my school we were taught that C's were enough, careers' advisors said that it was okay to take Business BTEC, Economics and I.T if we want to get into Banking - we didn't know much about banking then anyway.

    The only reason I have succeeded is because I pushed myself, comprehensives simply don't push students enough.

    How is having intelligent graduates bad for the economy? There are several grammar schools above private schools so do you want to ban them too?
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    You probably act like some moist wastemen, that's why they must call you a rah.

    Stop acting like a **** and your problem will solve itself.
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    It's people like you that cause these problems. You say you don't get on with them, do you even try? I go to a normal school, because my parents wanted me to have a normal education, I still think they where right but I got a lot of stick and do still for how I speak. As I said you sound to me like them, you will talk to me, hear how I speak and think "oh he is posh, prick!", I get on with everyone else that does not do this.

    So what I'am trying to say is, don't be like the people I know, if they look down on you, fair play ignore them, but if they are like me, in that I treat them normally don't be ignoring them. Cause it sounds like to me even if they try to be nice to you, you ignore them.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Don't get me wrong, family friends at Oxbridge. Parents went to Oxford. Boarding School educated. I hate grammar school kids they act more posh and stuck up than anyone. Hate that god damn Made In Chelsea show and anyone who tries to act stuck up.

    But I just don't get on with State School kids, not a day goes by without them mentioning it, or mentioning I am a Rah because of the school I went too.

    Alot of them don't actually mind me but the Banter is so different.

    I can't stand these class divisions anymore. I feel like they are completely different.

    I just wish people would make it less of an issue, an end to this Class Warfare Please.
    Maybe it's because you're a hypocrite. You are complaining that state school kids stereotype you as a rah due to your affluent(I presume?) background, yet you yourself stereotype everyone from grammar schools as posh or stuck up.

    Also, what do you mean by "don't get me wrong....I hate grammar school kids...". Hating grammar school kids isn't the popular opinion and it doesn't make you less posh or 'normal'.
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    First of all I'll admit I'm privately educated so I think it might affect what I wright so whatever. Personally though, I don't find I hard to like or talk to people from state schools but more to do with the fact that I don't share a common bond with someone. Like the school I attend, my interests or sports clubs ect... Regardless if they're privately or sate educated.

    I think that the OPs problem isn't really to do with state and private education but more to do with their personal character. Their upbringing their social nature, who they spend time with ect... Just generally how easy they find it to Form friendships and that for a strange reason they find some ones background a barrier to this.

    I doubt that the OP actually naturally doesn't form friendships with people because of their education without being told.

    If they do and they some how believe this to be morally right, correct or choose do this there is something deeply perverse about their character and beliefs.

    I think the OP should do something out of school, therefore widening the people that they interact with and hopefully change their views and out them with people that they share a common interest or bond with.

    Personally I play in rugby club (admittedly union) in a council estate which has one of the highest crime rates in Enland so naturally it doesn't attract privately educated people or the middle class. After about 2 minuets anyone you meet their you just realise they're normal and like anyone else you'd meet. Although they take the piss out of me a bit for banter, despite the fact that I (some reason) naturally change my voice so it matches theirs so it isn't as public school boy like. Everyone their is normal, even if some of their parent are apparently the scum of the earth according to the daily mail (how I hate the daily mail).

    There was one kid there who went to a private school but left as he didn't like the other people probably because he felt out of place and could socialise with anyone who wasn't like him though.

    PS: I still think few state educated people get most of the private school banter.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Don't get me wrong, family friends at Oxbridge. Parents went to Oxford. Boarding School educated. I hate grammar school kids they act more posh and stuck up than anyone. Hate that god damn Made In Chelsea show and anyone who tries to act stuck up.

    But I just don't get on with State School kids, not a day goes by without them mentioning it, or mentioning I am a Rah because of the school I went too.

    Alot of them don't actually mind me but the Banter is so different.

    I can't stand these class divisions anymore. I feel like they are completely different.

    I just wish people would make it less of an issue, an end to this Class Warfare Please.
    Find new friends. Some people who went to state school will have a chip on their shoulder and some who went to private school will be posh and stuck up, but there are plenty of people in both categories to whom that doesn't apply. If you can't stand class divisions, don't succumb to them.

    At uni I didn't really know or care what school people I met went to. I guess being Oxford it meant everyone was academically minded and so there wasn't such a huge cultural difference, even if there had previously been a social one. We'd all ended up at the same place so the route there didn't seem to matter as much. Even now I don't know what type of school many of my friends went to.

    My guess is you actually can stand the class divisions, and your comments about grammar school kids and Made in Chelsea suggest an attempt to distinguish yourself from the nouveau riche - those with enough money to act posh but without the class.
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    Try not classifying people by the kind of school they went to. I don't tend to even ask people what kind of school they went to just because it doesn't cross my mind

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    (Original post by Wiska)
    So parents with degrees shouldn't teach their children at home either as that is unfair right? Oh yeah, they shouldn't introduce them to family friends either if they're useful contacts.

    That's just silly, instead of wanting to improve public schools you want to bring private schools down?

    Grammar schools aside, most parents don't have faith in public schools - they simply don't push students enough, there will usually be disruptive pupils and they usually aren't very good at sorting out bullying. At my school we were taught that C's were enough, careers' advisors said that it was okay to take Business BTEC, Economics and I.T if we want to get into Banking - we didn't know much about banking then anyway.

    The only reason I have succeeded is because I pushed myself, comprehensives simply don't push students enough.

    How is having intelligent graduates bad for the economy? There are several grammar schools above private schools so do you want to ban them too?
    I don't believe receiving advice from useful people is wrong because it doesn't constitute the same imbalance in opportunity based on an irrelevant factor that private education does.

    I'm a bit confused bout your next point because i think youre using 'public' in reference to state schools?? I presume at least anyway and will reply so. You defend private education based on the poor quality of comprehensives which i find a somewhat meaningless argument for a few reasons. Firstly the existence of private schools disrupts and warps the flow of high quality employment into state comprehensives; teaching is ofcourse the key factor in the quality of a school and so private schools do nothing but damage the quality of state schools. Thus the issue of state school quality would be severely diminished if private education was abolished and the teaching resource fairly and evenly spread. In addition the obscene 'charity status' of private schools means their tax rates are severely diminished and so, admittedly in a smaller regard, private education damages state education in this manner too. Thus, while private education provides individual solutions for rich families, its existence itself is a more fundamental issue to the quality of education in this country.

    And hows it bad for the economy? Well because private schools, as you say, push and individually tutor their pupils with the intention of getting them to the best universities etc, but this means that the brightest kids aren't necessarily getting their deserved and relevant places because their often handicapped in competing for places (as you do really suggest in your own post) or don't know they should or have the ability to compete at all. Therefore our education system fails to, largely because of private education, nurture and create the most intelligent graduates that it can and so our jobs aren't necessarily being filled with the people who could have provided the best service.

    Do I want to ban grammer schools? No, I wouldn't say so because I think the old grammar school system did a lot for social mobility and helping disadvantaged intelligent people but it was as divisive and flawed as it was intelligent, so im not sure. But I think in asking that question youre missing my original point; how is it right that someones quality of education and oppurunity should be greater than another kid just starting in the world like them just because their parents are richer?
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    (Original post by SleepySheep)
    Where do you live?

    Also.... "state grammar"?
    West Yorkshire. It's not like it gets said all the time but I've heard it regularly enough for it to not be a strange word to hear.

    When I say state grammar I mean that you need to pass the 11+ to get in but it's funded by the state, has to follow the national curriculum, and is basically like any other state school except there's an entrance exam. It's quite a rare system nowadays.
 
 
 
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