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    (Original post by politixx)
    I am in UKIP although I am a new member and have never been an MP I have socially liberal views.
    That's not surprising, it'd be difficult, especially in a student population, to get enough social authoritarian, economic liberal people to form an entire party. This sort of paradoxical viewpoint that the people must be controlled until they form a corporation, from which point onwards they must be free seems to be gradually dying out, which, at least from my point of view, can only be a good thing. I really don't like internally contradictory positions (which is why the new social libertarian socialist party, the same lot who tried to ban porn last year, annoys and worries me).
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    Do you think UKIP is the most right wing party presently?
    :rofl: **** no. They are as Socialist as the Socialists with a right wing slant on practically nothing.
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    Party Leader on the scene, you called?
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    (Original post by MacDaddi)
    Party Leader on the scene, you called?
    Tell me more about the libertarians. How right wing are you?
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    Tell me more about the libertarians. How right wing are you?
    This is no righty **** measuring competition, but generally more economically right than all the other Tories but then socially liberal. Thing is though we aren't as extreme as we used to be economically with the loss of a few more hardcore members
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    Is there room for another right wing party on TSR is a better question?
    Probably not as its pretty clustered anyway.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    That's not surprising, it'd be difficult, especially in a student population, to get enough social authoritarian, economic liberal people to form an entire party. This sort of paradoxical viewpoint that the people must be controlled until they form a corporation, from which point onwards they must be free seems to be gradually dying out, which, at least from my point of view, can only be a good thing. I really don't like internally contradictory positions (which is why the new social libertarian socialist party, the same lot who tried to ban porn last year, annoys and worries me).
    Erm, they didn't try to ban porn. They tried to make porn a non-corporate commodity in order to avoid people profiteering from the objectification of women. Porn would've still been perfectly legal.
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    With 3 left-wing parties, 3 ostensibly right-wing parts, and the centrist failure of the formerly-known-as-Liberal-Democrats, this house would seem to be broad enough to encompass the fullest range of political opinion from the far-left to the far-right (just join the Tories). Therefore the formation of any new party, save in the centre, would seem to be wholly unjustifiable.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Erm, they didn't try to ban porn. They tried to make porn a non-corporate commodity in order to avoid people profiteering from the objectification of women. Porn would've still been perfectly legal.
    Why does it matter if they profiteer from a woman choosing to engage in sexual acts for money. Do they intend to repeal the sex act?
    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    With 3 left-wing parties, 3 ostensibly right-wing parts, and the centrist failure of the formerly-known-as-Liberal-Democrats, this house would seem to be broad enough to encompass the fullest range of political opinion from the far-left to the far-right (just join the Tories). Therefore the formation of any new party, save in the centre, would seem to be wholly unjustifiable.
    There's a large gap for an left-authoritarian party though that would make for an interesting set of policies to say the least.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Why does it matter if they profiteer from a woman choosing to engage in sexual acts for money. Do they intend to repeal the sex act?
    I don't think it's just women, men are also objectified in porn. And you'd have to ask a socialist whether they intend to repeal the sex act.
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    Right wingers are more than welcome to join TSR UKIP
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    There's a large gap for an left-authoritarian party though that would make for an interesting set of policies to say the least.
    You mean the socialists aren't authoritarian? I thought you lot on the Right had a complex about that! Or is it merely the Libertarians who are confuddled...(and the Liberals too, but that goes without saying no!)
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Erm, they didn't try to ban porn. They tried to make porn a non-corporate commodity in order to avoid people profiteering from the objectification of women. Porn would've still been perfectly legal.
    It's just that almost all of the porn ever made would be banned in the UK. It's like banning the sale of coffee. Coffee might still be legal, but it'd be damned hard to get hold of any.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    You mean the socialists aren't authoritarian? I thought you lot on the Right had a complex about that! Or is it merely the Libertarians who are confuddled...(and the Liberals too, but that goes without saying no!)
    Any party which takes private property away from the individual and gives control to the state is authoritarian in my book.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    With 3 left-wing parties, 3 ostensibly right-wing parts, and the centrist failure of the formerly-known-as-Liberal-Democrats, this house would seem to be broad enough to encompass the fullest range of political opinion from the far-left to the far-right (just join the Tories). Therefore the formation of any new party, save in the centre, would seem to be wholly unjustifiable.
    We'd tried to avoid mentioning the previous name of the Liberals, as an experiment in the power of RL association. While you obviously don't have to, I'd appreciate it if you'd edit it to just say liberals (for the sake of a clean experiment)
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    We'd tried to avoid mentioning the previous name of the Liberals, as an experiment in the power of RL association. While you obviously don't have to, I'd appreciate it if you'd edit it to just say liberals (for the sake of a clean experiment)
    You're going to need to explain yourself a little more than this as I have no idea what you're talking about.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    I'm not actually the party leader, and you know as well as I do that Government in the MHoC means little unless you've got the active majority to back it up. The last one did, but it was rare in that.
    Just a minor point, the last government didn't have a majority. It had 19 seats out of 50.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    You mean the socialists aren't authoritarian? I thought you lot on the Right had a complex about that! Or is it merely the Libertarians who are confuddled...(and the Liberals too, but that goes without saying no!)
    The act of seizing assets as you did with water was an economically authoritarian act although waiting for franchises to expire as in rail is i accept not. No, on the whole i view you guys as hippies although a few of your members must have a socially authoritarian streak to ban the sale of porn and seize water.

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    Just a minor point, the last government didn't have a majority. It had 19 seats out of 50.
    It has 21 unless you mean that only 19 were filled.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The act of seizing assets as you did with water was an economically authoritarian act although waiting for franchises to expire as in rail is i accept not. No, on the whole i view you guys as hippies although a few of your members must have a socially authoritarian streak to ban the sale of porn and seize water.
    I'm not in the Socialist Party! Nor was I a member of the government at the time of those bills passing through parliament (though I was and remain a member of the Labour Party).
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The act of seizing assets as you did with water was an economically authoritarian act although waiting for franchises to expire as in rail is i accept not. No, on the whole i view you guys as hippies although a few of your members must have a socially authoritarian streak to ban the sale of porn and seize water.



    It has 21 unless you mean that only 19 were filled.
    Oh looks like a wiki troll Should've done my own maths. Still not a majority though.
 
 
 
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