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    You probably won't want to use the name Republican here, given we often have monarchist-republican disputes. It'll just get confusing.
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    The party name is misleading, I thought you meant an anti monarchy party. Otherwise you've just described each of the right wing parties on TSR, why not join one of those first?
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    That's a pretty big difference!
    The thing is, I personally have one principle that supercedes all others. No matter what a government does, it must be done effectively. If you're policy doesn't work, it doesn't matter what the ideal behind it was. Letting people starve to death to teach them a lesson in financial planning may seem satisfactory to you (though this shows a bizarre lack of empathy, and probably means you've not looked into how the people get into these difficulties in the first place) but the bottom line is, it isn't effective. It serves nobody to have people starving to death, to have children institutionalised (which is both less desirable for the child and more expensive for the state) and to have an explosion in crime as people are forced to turn to illegal methods of subsistence.

    In the end, a safetynet welfare system is just the cheapest and most effective way to deal with the issue of poverty and unemployment. So we support it.
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    (Original post by TopHat)
    You probably won't want to use the name Republican here, given we often have monarchist-republican disputes. It'll just get confusing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

    Now I'm gonna go watch the whole film.
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    Has he even said he's pro-monarchy?

    I'm not sure how its misleading at all. Most people will affiliate the name with the US party which is rabidly right wing.
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    We would draw influences from the basic principles of the American Rebublican Party of the pre-Bush administration.
    So Reagan? you know he was a big spender right? also Bush wasn't bad, I like Bush, he inherited the financial crisis, he didn't start it... blame that ****tard Clinton for that one.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    So Reagan? you know he was a big spender right? also Bush wasn't bad, I like Bush, he inherited the financial crisis, he didn't start it... blame that ****tard Clinton for that one.
    Bush or rather Greenspan actively encouraged it however, Clinton shares some of the initial blame as does Thatcher in the UK but Bush and Brown are not entirely innocent.

    Bush was a strange fellow i though, came across as idiot but held a Harvard degree.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    So Reagan? you know he was a big spender right? also Bush wasn't bad, I like Bush, he inherited the financial crisis, he didn't start it... blame that ****tard Clinton for that one.
    Just the general principles of low tax small government rather than the specific policies of any individual President.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Bush or rather Greenspan actively encouraged it however, Clinton shares some of the initial blame as does Thatcher in the UK but Bush and Brown are not entirely innocent.

    Bush was a strange fellow i though, came across as idiot but held a Harvard degree.
    Clinton has all the blame, Bush's war in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't help. Brown is a knob.

    Bush was an amazing guy, I loved him and have you met people from Harvard? they are either incredibly obtuse and it is obvious they bought their degree (what Bush effectively did with Bush Snr's connections) or they are incredibly mundane and one has to wonder how people stand them. I for one would rather an idiot than a mundane guy ran the country (you may see the comparison to this in France ).

    In-fact that is what you get here too, I won't send my son to a Eton for fear he will come out unable to talk to women as a few I have met were well... useless :rofl:
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    Just the general principles of low tax small government rather than the specific policies of any individual President.
    You're going to have to expand massively tbh, I am interested but I am going to need more details. I am after all a part of 'Les Sarkozystes' Sarkozysme :adore:
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    You're going to have to expand massively tbh, I am interested but I am going to need more details. I am after all a part of 'Les Sarkozystes' Sarkozysme :adore:
    Id like to see the NHS removed and replaced by a system of free healthcare for under 18s and possibly compulsory insurance. If you have to unsure your car you should have to insure your body.

    Massive reduction in benefits all round and reinvest that money in education, infrastructure and public safety.

    Give me a minute to look at your policies and I can tell you where we differ.
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    Just the general principles of low tax small government rather than the specific policies of any individual President.
    I'm afraid that you won't be given permission to start a party with such a narrow platform (and even if you were you'd be a fairly pointless party).

    Some randoms off the top of my head:

    What are your thoughts on immigration?
    What are your thoughts on welfare spending?
    What are your thoughts on Israel and Palestine?
    What are your thoughts on climate change?
    What are your thoughts on military spending?
    What are your thoughts on the perfect Sunday?
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    You're going to have to expand massively tbh, I am interested but I am going to need more details. I am after all a part of 'Les Sarkozystes' Sarkozysme :adore:
    I really like all your policies. Have you considered starting a party.

    I would want the rules on benefits being very strict though. And I wouldn't want to upset America too much.
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    I really like all your policies. Have you considered starting a party.

    I would want the rules on benefits being very strict though. And I wouldn't want to upset America too much.
    Nooooo benefits are good. They are our friend.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    I'm afraid that you won't be given permission to start a party with such a narrow platform (and even if you were you'd be a fairly pointless party).

    Some randoms off the top of my head:

    What are your thoughts on immigration?
    What are your thoughts on welfare spending?
    What are your thoughts on Israel and Palestine?
    What are your thoughts on climate change?
    What are your thoughts on military spending?
    What are your thoughts on the perfect Sunday?
    Of course I'm just trying to see other people thoughts at the moment.

    Immigration should be limited to highly skilled workers.
    Welfare spending should be minimal; only for very needy cases. (Sorry that's still vague.
    Israel FTW.
    The best thing the UK can do for climate change is convince the US to form tighter regulations.
    The military shod continue to change into a small but specialised force.
    Sunday the day or Sunday the ice cream? Either should be covered in whipped cream.
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    (Original post by MacDaddi)
    Nooooo benefits are good. They are our friend.
    No! Idle scroungers...
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    I really like all your policies. Have you considered starting a party.

    I would want the rules on benefits being very strict though. And I wouldn't want to upset America too much.
    I started the Oligarchy party... it didn't get enough people to sign up

    Obviously, benefits for those that worked for it not for lazy sods.
    (Original post by Jacob :))
    Israel FTW.
    To be honest while I am a Jew and an Israeli citizen, I don't feel Israel to should win. Israel should seek peace instead of mutually assured destruction. I think I have been around too many muslims as of late
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    (Original post by Jacob :))
    No one will starve if they are socially responsible. And even then we'd probably give them some bread or something. I'm not that bad!
    There is almost certainly a few Libers who would agree to the give them bread welfare landscape. However what you have to remember is the Poverty Abolition Act provided a set minimum amount needed to each party. It is literally there to keep them alive, it's been repealed now but it's worth baring in mind the Libertarians approach to welfare is about as bare-bones and right wing as you can get without killing people.

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    How so? The name is actually pretty valid even if i don't see the need for the party.
    (Original post by Jacob :))
    Good question!
    The name is not pretty valid. This is a UK Model House of Commons and in the political landscape here republican generally means anti-monarchy - given that we know voters don't always read the manifestos and vote off the name alone you could easily end up with voters who don't even support your ideals voting because they disagree with the monarchy. On top of that you're social policy are hardly along the lines of the real life American Republican Party. You haven't mentioned issues like Gay Marriage, Divorce Immigration and the Death Penalty. If you party takes the liberal approach with all of those you are clearly leeching off a real-life name for extra-votes for a party that is just a slightly more extreme version of the Libertarians.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    I started the Oligarchy party... it didn't get enough people to sign up

    Obviously, benefits for those that worked for it not for lazy sods.

    To be honest while I am a Jew and an Israeli citizen, I don't feel Israel to should win. Israel should seek peace instead of mutually assured destruction. I think I have been around too many muslims as of late
    I don't think either side should 'win' they should find peace. However I think the Israelis are the ones looking for peace and the Muslims are the ones stoking the fire. Especially Iran.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    I started the Oligarchy party... it didn't get enough people to sign up

    Obviously, benefits for those that worked for it not for lazy sods.

    To be honest while I am a Jew and an Israeli citizen, I don't feel Israel to should win. Israel should seek peace instead of mutually assured destruction. I think I have been around too many muslims as of late
    Would you consider trying to form a new party after the election? It doesn't have to be called the Ogliarchy or Republican Party. I agree with most of what you stand for and believe many people look for a more hard line party to stand against the welfare state and the socialists. Dang commies...
 
 
 
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