Sister caught on speed camera and has no license. What will happen?

Write to the Police asking for photographic evidence that it was you or her driving.

Picture from the front, but are these images clear enough to see the driver in the photo?


She is insured.

Yes they are, that's their purpose, because people kept evading Gatso pictures because they couldn't identify the driver. Truvelo's specifically picture the driver to confirm who committed the offence.

She may also be prosecuted with TWOC.

She is not insured as she would only be insured to be driving with somebody suitable in the passenger seat. As you said she was alone her insurance would be invalid.

My sister was driving my car and she says she thinks a camera flashed as she passed and she was above the limit. She currently has no license but is going for a test soon.

What will happen from now on? Will I have to pay the fine?

I've already had motor related trouble myself and currently have 4 points for speeding and following an accident I got "Driving without due care and attention" but that was removed after a court battle.

So will I get a fixed penalty notice by mail and have to pay that?

Picture from the front, but are these images clear enough to see the driver in the photo?


She is insured.

Ok so its likely that they know it wasn't me driving then?

Will I get into trouble if I say I knew she took the car? (In reality I didn't know specifically on that occasion)

Will she be arrested or anything that can prevent her getting employment and such?

My sister does resemble me but in a clear high resolution photo she would look different.

Ok so its likely that they know it wasn't me driving then?

Will I get into trouble if I say I knew she took the car? (In reality I didn't know specifically on that occasion)

Will she be arrested or anything that can prevent her getting employment and such?

So it's not just you who has a completely irresponsible attitude to driving then? You deserved everything you got for the driving without due care and attention incident (IMO you should have got more), and now your sister is in trouble for driving-related offenses??!!

Yes you can. You'd just have to say that you gave her permission to drive the car, obviously with a qualified passenger driver to make her insured. Then she wont be done for TWOC because you consented. Just invalid insurance, speeding, and invalid license. Even though she's committed invalid insurance and invalid license she will get let off ever so slightly because the crimes go hand in hand. If she wasn't driving with a valid license, automatically, her insurance wouldn't be valid.

She wont be arrested, but she'll be summoned to court and if found guilty then yes she'll have a criminal record for driving without valid insurance and driving without a valid license. She'd have to state this on any application that asked about any previous criminal convictions.

I'm sure that they qualify under the rehab offenders act doodah and will become 'spent' after a period of time. Say 5 years, after which they will stay on her record but she does not have to declare them. That's just my instinct/guess and I'd have to double check before advising you on that.

I didn't get problems for driving without care it was removed as I won the court case.

I didn't get problems for driving without care it was removed as I won the court case.

What happens if she is overseas when the court summons comes in my hands and I say its her but she is abroad. She will be going to Canada shortly and plans to settle there (my sister and I are dual residents).

Despite the flack you're getting from other members I feel for you. If it was my brother I'd be thinking the same and I'd take points for him a the click of my fingers if it means he avoided a criminal record and a heavy fine/ban. We all do stupid **** but he's my brother... He's taken flack for me in the past and always looked out for me so I'd be willing to break the law to help him.

My sister was driving my car and she says she thinks a camera flashed as she passed and she was above the limit. She currently has no license but is going for a test soon.

What will happen from now on? Will I have to pay the fine?

I've already had motor related trouble myself and currently have 4 points for speeding and following an accident I got "Driving without due care and attention" but that was removed after a court battle.

So will I get a fixed penalty notice by mail and have to pay that?

True it was stupid. And she is very close to me and nice and I would not want her to have a criminal record.

True it was stupid. And she is very close to me and nice and I would not want her to have a criminal record.

What happens if she is overseas when the court summons comes in my hands and I say its her but she is abroad. She will be going to Canada shortly and plans to settle there (my sister and I are dual residents).

Erm to be honest I don't know. If you say it was her driving, they'll then re-send the summons to her. And you'd have to reply stating that she does not live in the UK anymore.

It's likely that they will set a court date anyway and if she appears then whatever penalties apply, will be endorsed on her. If she chooses not to go then the court they may find her guilty in absentia, so the case will go to court and proceed in her absence. She can have legal representation go on her behalf, but she wont attend in person. As soon as she steps back in the UK the courts/police will be after her like a dog after a bone.

Quite the quandry.

You'll receive a ticket in the post and thus a £60 fine and 3 points, which if you've been qualified for less than 2 years will mean you lose your licence.

On the other hand, you say it was your sister.

You then have 2 choices - either you gave her consent to take the car, in which case she gets the points for speeding, driving otherwise in accordance with a licence and driving with no insurance, and you get a summons for allowing someone to drive the vehicle without insurance.

Or

You say that she didn't have your consent, she gets arrested for taking a motor vehicle without consent as well as all of the above, but you get away scot free.

I think that about covers it.

Enjoy.