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    (Original post by alexkol)
    That's not really true, cause Exeter's program is considered in the General Engineering course. Like it or not, Cardiff has a much better reputation and it is scoring higher in rankings than Exeter for Engineering!
    Yes but how can you say that if Exeter aren't included in the tables despite offering the course?
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    Basically I’m in a bit of a situation.. Well I have got offers from both Cardiff and Exeter for mechanical engineering, both of which are for the Meng and both have a year in industry. Exeter is higher in general in the league tables but I heard that it isn’t really known for its engineering department and I have tried searching this and it is quite hard to find Exeter on any league table for engineering, particulalry for mechanical engineering. I have only been to Cardiff and I do like it there, its also not a bad uni for engineering. But I want to know if Exeter is good at engineering cos if it is and its recognised internationally then I would pick Exeter.

    please help

    Ignore all the silly arguments on this thread. Exeter and Cardiff are both top universities with excellent engineering departments. Exeter doesn't rank on the mechanical engineering tables but neither do Cambridge, Oxford or Warwick. Does that mean they are bad engineering universities? It's purely based on the fact that the courses start off as general engineering. If this isn't for you and then go to Cardiff. If you don't mind it, look at both universities properly and make your decision based on that. You can't go wrong with either university in my opinion.
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    wow why didnt they just go to oxford or somehwere higher than exeter? and i havent got the email, could u try sending it again
    (Original post by caisku)
    Physics: A*
    Maths: A
    Further Maths: A
    Chemistry: A

    I'll send you the email address privately now
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    wow why didnt they just go to oxford or somehwere higher than exeter? and i havent got the email, could u try sending it again
    Didn't get an offer, but still very happy! Yep I sent it before, don't know what went wrong but I'll resend it now
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    If the course teaches general engineering then that means I would really struggle with the electronics in the course as I don’t do physics for A-level, so I don’t know if I should go to Exeter.
    (Original post by IcedTea&PotNoodle)
    Ignore all the silly arguments on this thread. Exeter and Cardiff are both top universities with excellent engineering departments. Exeter doesn't rank on the mechanical engineering tables but neither do Cambridge, Oxford or Warwick. Does that mean they are bad engineering universities? It's purely based on the fact that the courses start off as general engineering. If this isn't for you and then go to Cardiff. If you don't mind it, look at both universities properly and make your decision based on that. You can't go wrong with either university in my opinion.
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    Wow! Wtf would Oxford be asking for then?! Lol, yeah i got it and thanks
    (Original post by caisku)
    Didn't get an offer, but still very happy! Yep I sent it before, don't know what went wrong but I'll resend it now
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    If the course teaches general engineering then that means I would really struggle with the electronics in the course as I don’t do physics for A-level, so I don’t know if I should go to Exeter.
    you will do electronics in mechanical engineering wherever you go. From what iv seen its the very basics and some circuit anaylsis but it doesn't go into much depth like the electronic/electrical course.
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    If the course teaches general engineering then that means I would really struggle with the electronics in the course as I don’t do physics for A-level, so I don’t know if I should go to Exeter.
    I think that the General Engineering course at Exeter would touch everything including Thermodynamics, Fluids, Mechanics, Chemical Processes and Electronics. General Engineering means they would cover modules in Chem Eng, Elect Eng, Mech Eng etc. I think that in the first year, the course would be quite broad in order to get everyone to work at the same frequency (balance). In my first year, although that I was an Electronics Eng student, I had several courses with Mech Eng, Aerospace Eng, Medical Eng and Computer Sci. I do not think that they would push you in the deep end once you get in. Some students may have not done Physics like you. Then, they would step up the gear from second year.

    I think that General Engineering would be better than straight Mechanical Eng, This is because you would have experienced all the various facets of Engineering before you would be required to specialise in one field.

    I suggest that you obtain more information from both Cardiff and Exeter about the Electronics bit of the course. You may choose Cardiff because of the "little" amount of Electronics; but when you get there, you may be shocked at the amount. For the Physics, you cannot avoid it. No matter what Engineering discipline that you follow, you would interact with this "master". However, the degree of Physics would vary from course to course.

    Good luck with everything.
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    omggg i dont have a ****ing clue why i applied for engineering- i dont do further maths or Physics, and i only did chemistry at AS- what was i thinking?! im gonna be so behind with the work! Okay im predicted A's but in subjects that have got nothing to do with engineering...one of my choices is manchester aswell but they gave me a foundation course instead beacuse i did't do physics- maybe i should go there instead? I mean it would help with the lack of everything tbh wouldn't it?
    (Original post by MEXING)
    I think that the General Engineering course at Exeter would touch everything including Thermodynamics, Fluids, Mechanics, Chemical Processes and Electronics. General Engineering means they would cover modules in Chem Eng, Elect Eng, Mech Eng etc. I think that in the first year, the course would be quite broad in order to get everyone to work at the same frequency (balance). In my first year, although that I was an Electronics Eng student, I had several courses with Mech Eng, Aerospace Eng, Medical Eng and Computer Sci. I do not think that they would push you in the deep end once you get in. Some students may have not done Physics like you. Then, they would step up the gear from second year.

    I think that General Engineering would be better than straight Mechanical Eng, This is because you would have experienced all the various facets of Engineering before you would be required to specialise in one field.

    I suggest that you obtain more information from both Cardiff and Exeter about the Electronics bit of the course. You may choose Cardiff because of the "little" amount of Electronics; but when you get there, you may be shocked at the amount. For the Physics, you cannot avoid it. No matter what Engineering discipline that you follow, you would interact with this "master". However, the degree of Physics would vary from course to course.

    Good luck with everything.
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    omggg i dont have a ****ing clue why i applied for engineering- i dont do further maths or Physics, and i only did chemistry at AS- what was i thinking?! im gonna be so behind with the work! Okay im predicted A's but in subjects that have got nothing to do with engineering...one of my choices is manchester aswell but they gave me a foundation course instead beacuse i did't do physics- maybe i should go there instead? I mean it would help with the lack of everything tbh wouldn't it?
    Not studying Physics and Further Maths at A'Levels could be dangerous. However, I do not think that the universities would have offered you a place without being certain that you are equipped for the job. You may find it difficult at the beginning, but if you work harder, it would be easier. I do not think that it would be a nightmare because there may be tutorials available and you can use these tutorials to catch up.

    Your response confirms my suggestion of you pursuing the General Engineering course. I think that the course would not be too detailed in one particular aspect until after about two years. By then, I think that you should have mastered the culture and course. I know someone that studies at UCL and the students are grouped into Maths 1 and 2. Maths 1 are for those who are "ahead" and do not need much help while Maths 2 are for those that need more support. You should ask about support systems like this.

    I suggest that you ask both departments about this and you should inform them about your situation. They may be able to help. You should also ask current students that are on both courses for their experience.

    I do not think that you should pursue the Manchester foundation programme because it means that the two years of A'levels would have been in vain. However, if you think that this would be the way forward; then by all means, go for it.

    Good luck with everything and I hope that it works out for the best.
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    I would have thought that learning more about one topic in detail is better then the general engineering- as its more on thermodynamics etc rather than everything else that’s needed i.e. electronics, no? Yeah I asked a lot about the support systems in Cardiff when I was there and they did say that the situation I’m in will not be a problem as they often get people in my situation and they teach the topics from A-level standard and they do offer a lot of one-one help. I haven’t been to Exeter so it’s harder to judge, but I looked at the stats for the student support etc and they seemed to do quite well on that. I know that I will work hard, but I just don’t want to be completely overwhelmed by the work as I’m so behind already. If you were in my situation what would you pick? And do you do engineering?
    (Original post by MEXING)
    Not studying Physics and Further Maths at A'Levels could be dangerous. However, I do not think that the universities would have offered you a place without being certain that you are equipped for the job. You may find it difficult at the beginning, but if you work harder, it would be easier. I do not think that it would be a nightmare because there may be tutorials available and you can use these tutorials to catch up.

    Your response confirms my suggestion of you pursuing the General Engineering course. I think that the course would not be too detailed in one particular aspect until after about two years. By then, I think that you should have mastered the culture and course. I know someone that studies at UCL and the students are grouped into Maths 1 and 2. Maths 1 are for those who are "ahead" and do not need much help while Maths 2 are for those that need more support. You should ask about support systems like this.

    I suggest that you ask both departments about this and you should inform them about your situation. They may be able to help. You should also ask current students that are on both courses for their experience.

    I do not think that you should pursue the Manchester foundation programme because it means that the two years of A'levels would have been in vain. However, if you think that this would be the way forward; then by all means, go for it.

    Good luck with everything and I hope that it works out for the best.
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    wow why didnt they just go to oxford or somehwere higher than exeter? and i havent got the email, could u try sending it again


    A guy from my school got 7 As at A-Level (before A*s were available) in Maths, Further Maths, Physics, Chemistry, German, History and General Studies. He still got rejected to study Maths at Oxford.

    At the end of the day, it's not only about the grades. By far the best way to increase your chances of getting into Oxbridge is by going to a private school.
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    I would have thought that learning more about one topic in detail is better then the general engineering- as its more on thermodynamics etc rather than everything else that’s needed i.e. electronics, no? Yeah I asked a lot about the support systems in Cardiff when I was there and they did say that the situation I’m in will not be a problem as they often get people in my situation and they teach the topics from A-level standard and they do offer a lot of one-one help. I haven’t been to Exeter so it’s harder to judge, but I looked at the stats for the student support etc and they seemed to do quite well on that. I know that I will work hard, but I just don’t want to be completely overwhelmed by the work as I’m so behind already. If you were in my situation what would you pick? And do you do engineering?
    I would have thought that learning more about one topic in detail is better then the general engineering- as its more on thermodynamics etc rather than everything else that’s needed i.e. electronics, no?

    Yes, you are right. Learning one topic in detail may be better than learning about general bits of engineering. I think that many students, who follow this pathway, do not really know the exact field that they intend to pursue. As you have set you eyes on Mech Eng, it seems that it would better to follow the Mech Eng pathway and study more of the Mech Eng. However, you need to know that you would not go deep into Mech Eng until 2nd year or so. This would be about the same time that you should begin to specialise in the Gen. Eng. programme. Let me just point out that you may not be able to avoid Electronics. If you are worried about the level of Electronics, you should research or contact the departments about both courses.

    If you pursue the General Engineering programme, you may learn bits of everything. I think that you would specialise in one subject during the penultimate year of your degree. I got this information from a lady that I met at Oxford. She was on the Gen. Eng./Eng. Sci course and she wanted to specialise in Civil Eng. So, she did her project on aspects of Civil Eng.

    Yeah I asked a lot about the support systems in Cardiff when I was there and they did say that the situation I’m in will not be a problem as they often get people in my situation and they teach the topics from A-level standard and they do offer a lot of one-one help.

    Yes, like I previously wrote, there are supposed to be support systems to help the students that are not up to standard. In my opinion, I think that the first year acts as a levelling ground, where the school ensures that everyone knows about everything that they should know. This is the reason why First year does not count for much at the end of your degree.

    I haven’t been to Exeter so it’s harder to judge, but I looked at the stats for the student support etc and they seemed to do quite well on that.

    I think that Exeter is a strong university. They should have some kind of support system in place. There is a big annual survey that is conducted called the National Student Survey. This survey asks current students about the education and learning standards and the support network. This survey affects departmental rankings. So universities are often pressured into enhancing the support system.

    I know that I will work hard, but I just don’t want to be completely overwhelmed by the work as I’m so behind already.

    Yeah, you would need to do some prior reading before starting your course. A good website called Khan Academy (other websites may be available) helps with Physics and Maths. It is very useful if you are stuck on a topic or need an introduction to a topic.

    If you were in my situation what would you pick? And do you do engineering?

    I study Electronic Engineering. I do not know much about both universities. However, from the information that I have received from mates about Exeter, I think that it is a good university. I have a friend from Cardiff and he is doing well at his uni. If it was me, I would go to Exeter because it is General Engineering and I would be able to learn more about different engineering disciplines. (I do not attend Exeter!!!)

    Also think about the conditions for admission and how easy it would be to attain them.

    Finally, both universities are fantastic institutions of learning and I do not think that you would go wrong. However, you need to make your own decision and select the university that you think would be for you.

    Note: Please do not take all these information as instructions. I am just a guy, on the internet, trying to help. Do some research and decide.

    Good luck with everything.
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    Wow, that’s really nice of you to actually keep replying lol so thanks. Yet I still can’t decide lol. Though I’m coming to a decision- I think I will put Exeter down as my firm and Cardiff as my insurance, and then I could visit Exeter in the next available open day (as their open days are after the deadline for uni choices) and then if I don’t like the place then i could always ask Exeter to reject me on results day and go to Cardiff- if I get 3 A’s. What uni do you do the eng in?
    (Original post by MEXING)
    I would have thought that learning more about one topic in detail is better then the general engineering- as its more on thermodynamics etc rather than everything else that’s needed i.e. electronics, no?

    Yes, you are right. Learning one topic in detail may be better than learning about general bits of engineering. I think that many students, who follow this pathway, do not really know the exact field that they intend to pursue. As you have set you eyes on Mech Eng, it seems that it would better to follow the Mech Eng pathway and study more of the Mech Eng. However, you need to know that you would not go deep into Mech Eng until 2nd year or so. This would be about the same time that you should begin to specialise in the Gen. Eng. programme. Let me just point out that you may not be able to avoid Electronics. If you are worried about the level of Electronics, you should research or contact the departments about both courses.

    If you pursue the General Engineering programme, you may learn bits of everything. I think that you would specialise in one subject during the penultimate year of your degree. I got this information from a lady that I met at Oxford. She was on the Gen. Eng./Eng. Sci course and she wanted to specialise in Civil Eng. So, she did her project on aspects of Civil Eng.

    Yeah I asked a lot about the support systems in Cardiff when I was there and they did say that the situation I’m in will not be a problem as they often get people in my situation and they teach the topics from A-level standard and they do offer a lot of one-one help.

    Yes, like I previously wrote, there are supposed to be support systems to help the students that are not up to standard. In my opinion, I think that the first year acts as a levelling ground, where the school ensures that everyone knows about everything that they should know. This is the reason why First year does not count for much at the end of your degree.

    I haven’t been to Exeter so it’s harder to judge, but I looked at the stats for the student support etc and they seemed to do quite well on that.

    I think that Exeter is a strong university. They should have some kind of support system in place. There is a big annual survey that is conducted called the National Student Survey. This survey asks current students about the education and learning standards and the support network. This survey affects departmental rankings. So universities are often pressured into enhancing the support system.

    I know that I will work hard, but I just don’t want to be completely overwhelmed by the work as I’m so behind already.

    Yeah, you would need to do some prior reading before starting your course. A good website called Khan Academy (other websites may be available) helps with Physics and Maths. It is very useful if you are stuck on a topic or need an introduction to a topic.

    If you were in my situation what would you pick? And do you do engineering?

    I study Electronic Engineering. I do not know much about both universities. However, from the information that I have received from mates about Exeter, I think that it is a good university. I have a friend from Cardiff and he is doing well at his uni. If it was me, I would go to Exeter because it is General Engineering and I would be able to learn more about different engineering disciplines. (I do not attend Exeter!!!)

    Also think about the conditions for admission and how easy it would be to attain them.

    Finally, both universities are fantastic institutions of learning and I do not think that you would go wrong. However, you need to make your own decision and select the university that you think would be for you.

    Note: Please do not take all these information as instructions. I am just a guy, on the internet, trying to help. Do some research and decide.

    Good luck with everything.
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    Wow, that’s really nice of you to actually keep replying lol so thanks. Yet I still can’t decide lol. Though I’m coming to a decision- I think I will put Exeter down as my firm and Cardiff as my insurance, and then I could visit Exeter in the next available open day (as their open days are after the deadline for uni choices) and then if I don’t like the place then i could always ask Exeter to reject me on results day and go to Cardiff- if I get 3 A’s. What uni do you do the eng in?
    Yeah, I think that it would be a good idea to do that. Try and go to Exeter during the next open day. Since you have gone to Cardiff, visiting Exeter would give you a better chance of deciding for yourself.

    I study Electronics Eng at Surrey Uni.

    Good luck with everything.
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    Wow, that’s really nice of you to actually keep replying lol so thanks. Yet I still can’t decide lol. Though I’m coming to a decision- I think I will put Exeter down as my firm and Cardiff as my insurance, and then I could visit Exeter in the next available open day (as their open days are after the deadline for uni choices) and then if I don’t like the place then i could always ask Exeter to reject me on results day and go to Cardiff- if I get 3 A’s. What uni do you do the eng in?
    It will be impossible for you not to love Exeter after visiting their campus!
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    Wow, that’s really nice of you to actually keep replying lol so thanks.
    It is good to help. Next time you would help another person with a big decision like university education.
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    Yeah definitely now, as I wouldn’t have before lol. Thanks for all the help.
    (Original post by MEXING)
    It is good to help. Next time you would help another person with a big decision like university education.
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    Yeah, everyone keeps saying that Exeter is such a nice place, so I do need to see it, but what makes it so special?
    (Original post by Film)
    It will be impossible for you not to love Exeter after visiting their campus!
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    (Original post by adriana10)
    Yeah, everyone keeps saying that Exeter is such a nice place, so I do need to see it, but what makes it so special?
    Here are some videos about Exeter

    Life in Exeter
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfbpcHMm9k0

    Studying at Exeter University
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2VEAmRDuB0

    Hopefully, you can use these information to obtain more about Exeter during your visit.

    Good luck.
 
 
 
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