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    (Original post by The Socktor)
    One thing I never understood about the conspiracy theory is that why did the hyjackers get themselves killed for it? what's the point in taking part in a huge conspiracy if you wont even live to reap the benefits?
    Because there were no planes. Days before the attack the government installed hologram projectors all over New York. That's what we saw. It was all an illusion.
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    What about the possibility of it being done by Israel?
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    (Original post by Pendulum3)
    What about the possibility of it being done by Israel?
    Almost certain. Consider the King David Hotel bombing (widely considered the first act of modern terrorism) where Zionist Israelis disguised as Arabs bombed a hotel and consequently killed 91 people of various nationalities. Also consider the Deir Yassin massacre where Israelis marched into a Muslim village and slaughtered 107 innocent people, mainly women and children.

    I believe these acts of bombings and massacres continue to be done by Israelis and are scapegoated on the fictional organisation of Al Qaeda.
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    I think its an inside Job, there's overwhelming evidence to suggest its an inside job, so I believe its an inside job.
    - Structure designed in mind to handle multiple plane crashes
    - Never has fire destroyed steel structures that have had a harsher inferno going on for 20hours
    - Motives for Oil and War, American greed
    - Pentagon missing plane wreckage
    - Field near the white whitehouse, lack of wreckage, civilians or anything
    - WTC 7 fell without a plane smashing it, fall debris from the north tower apparently caused it, but I didn't see a fall of tower 7 until 5pm
    - Even so if it was falling debris, if the towers weren't imploded in the first place all structures would remain standing, but the trade center 7 falling in 6.5 seconds is unbelievable
    - The cover story was weak, pass ports apparently found on the streets, red boxes of the plane seen but then hidden away
    - Complete surveillance of the trade center as evidence including the boxes was removed
    - Remains of thermite ignited steal seen at the wreckage
    - Flying a low altitude on a plane, with an apparently inexperienced saudi air plane rookie, I doubt he could hit the tower based on the cover story, the planes were simply a distraction, I suppose the CIA could've being involved in faking calls or taking the lives of civilians for the cover story, it is unknown
    - Phone calls on airplanes that high, really?
    - A plane said destroyed by the wreckage landed, and the passengers were escorted into a secret room, none of the passengers came back out.
    I've got a lot more but for now this is all I can think of
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    (Original post by Robbie242)
    I think its an inside Job, there's overwhelming evidence to suggest its an inside job, so I believe its an inside job.
    - Structure designed in mind to handle multiple plane crashes
    - Never has fire destroyed steel structures that have had a harsher inferno going on for 20hours
    - Motives for Oil and War, American greed
    - Pentagon missing plane wreckage
    - Field near the white whitehouse, lack of wreckage, civilians or anything
    - WTC 7 fell without a plane smashing it, fall debris from the north tower apparently caused it, but I didn't see a fall of tower 7 until 5pm
    - Even so if it was falling debris, if the towers weren't imploded in the first place all structures would remain standing, but the trade center 7 falling in 6.5 seconds is unbelievable
    - The cover story was weak, pass ports apparently found on the streets, red boxes of the plane seen but then hidden away
    - Complete surveillance of the trade center as evidence including the boxes was removed
    - Remains of thermite ignited steal seen at the wreckage
    - Flying a low altitude on a plane, with an apparently inexperienced saudi air plane rookie, I doubt he could hit the tower based on the cover story, the planes were simply a distraction, I suppose the CIA could've being involved in faking calls or taking the lives of civilians for the cover story, it is unknown
    - Phone calls on airplanes that high, really?
    - A plane said destroyed by the wreckage landed, and the passengers were escorted into a secret room, none of the passengers came back out.
    I've got a lot more but for now this is all I can think of
    Dumb. All of that has been disproven.

    Anyway, my main problem with this conspiracy is that once you accept it, it's pretty much a downward spiral.

    You have to accept that the US government is almost certainly evil (including almost all its officials). This means you can't trust anything the US says, ever. Since Britain has a special relationship with the US, that means you can't trust anything the UK government does either. This ends in you becoming a complete paranoid wreck, seeing evil dark conspiracies wherever you look.

    And, if you think the US and UK governments are part of a sinister plot, what is to stop you bombing the Houses of Parliament?

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    No,
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    (Original post by Tabzqt)
    Dumb. All of that has been disproven.

    Anyway, my main problem with this conspiracy is that once you accept it, it's pretty much a downward spiral.

    You have to accept that the US government is almost certainly evil (including almost all its officials). This means you can't trust anything the US says, ever. Since Britain has a special relationship with the US, that means you can't trust anything the UK government does either. This ends in you becoming a complete paranoid wreck, seeing evil dark conspiracies wherever you look.

    And, if you think the US and UK governments are part of a sinister plot, what is to stop you bombing the Houses of Parliament?

    It's not being solidly dis-proven though, don't link me to debunking 9/11 site because some of their debunks are ****ing retarded. No I feel that the bush administration was evil, not the whole of the US administration. I accept events like 7/7 were Muslim terrorists in response to 9/11, but 9/11 it self looks point blank like an inside job to me. I'm not a paranoid wreck, I share my thoughts on the internet and when people ask, I don't obsess over 9/11, I discuss it when it comes up in conversation. Try to convince me it was planes that brought down two skyscraper towers designed to withstand 5 plane crashes.

    Anyway Alex Jones is a ****ing nutcase
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    (Original post by Robbie242)
    It's not being solidly dis-proven though, don't link me to debunking 9/11 site because some of their debunks are ****ing retarded. No I feel that the bush administration was evil, not the whole of the US administration. I accept events like 7/7 were Muslim terrorists in response to 9/11, but 9/11 it self looks point blank like an inside job to me. I'm not a paranoid wreck, I share my thoughts on the internet and when people ask, I don't obsess over 9/11, I discuss it when it comes up in conversation. Try to convince me it was planes that brought down too skyscraper towers designed to withstand 5 plane crashes.

    Anyway Alex Jones is a ****ing nutcase
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    (Original post by Stroma)
    Pro tip: when a big plane in a sky smashes into a building, the buildings don't tend to fall straight down.
    Yeah and you've seen countless planes go into countless buildings before?


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    I don't know, but I've seen a lot of videos on YouTube that imply It was. Also, some are suggesting that Boston, was too a false flag. :/
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    (Original post by anonymouspie227)
    I don't know, but I've seen a lot of videos on YouTube that imply It was. Also, some are suggesting that Boston, was too a false flag. :/
    But they have no lead in Boston, yet?
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    (Original post by slickrick666999)
    What's with thr Muslim conspiracy theories.
    How are these "Muslim" conspiracy theories?

    And what did this post have to do with muslims?

    You seem to try and have a go at muslims or Islam on 99% of posts.


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    Definite inside job. Aside from all the evidence, google operation northwood. You'll see they had a similar plan during the cold war. They wanted to bomb a load of places in Miami to build up public support for an invasion of Cuba. President JFK blocked it though. Oh and then he was assassinated...

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    (Original post by miles_cynic)
    In this day and age people are all conditioned. They are like a bunch of sheep. And what herds them is the TV set. What ever mainstream says goes. Mainstream calls other people (the minority) who do not fall in line to their conditioning and views, because they are able to think for themselves as 'conspiracy theorists, 'nuts,' 'quacks,' and so on...

    And the sheep or zombies automatically label you as one if you have an alternative view no matter how credible it is.

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    Mainstream on the same day of 9/11 blamed Osama bin Laden (OBL) for the attack. On the same day, without there being any investigation or anything. They already had the story mapped out, with all media coverage depicting OBL as the culprit.

    As the famous saying goes "If you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth"

    However, any sane person that looks into 9/11 being objective and putting all preconceived opinions aside would definitely come to the conclusion that OBL could not have done it.

    If you just focus on building 7 alone you would come to that conclusion. Building 7 the 3rd tower to collapse into it's own foot print in the same manner as the other two towers was not hit by a plane. Had some fire on a few floors, that it. But you see it goes against the laws of physics and science for fire to cause a sky scraper to collapse at near free-fall speed (i.e. as if it had no resistance).
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    And this is what the professional architectures and engineers are telling us based on science (see: http://www.ae911truth.org/en/home.html).

    The official story claims fire caused the 3 collapses. But never in history before or since 9/11 has a steel-framed tower collapsed due to fire. The only 3 to ever collapse in history due to fire all coincidentally occurred on the same day 9/11.

    The only possible way for these steel-framed towers to collapse and be pulverised the way it did is through demolition. There was even residue of a demolition explosive found in the dust of the concrete that has been confirmed in a lab. Not to mention numerous eye-witness accounts recorded on the same day of the event all saying the same thing more or less 'that there was a huge explosion: Boom, Boom, Boom' before the buildings collapsed. Explosions coming from the basement levels. The plane hit the very top end, why is there explosions in the basement? You can even hear the explosions on video.

    But none of this is reported in the media. Or even considered by the official story. None of it matters. But then you have people (like popular mechanics) who are phonies that attempt to discredit all views that are against the official story by debunking them. They try to debunk you.

    There has even been a peer-reviewed paper written on 9/11. The 9/11 truth movement wants there to be an independent investigation as to what happened that day, but there would never be. Nobody that was really involved in the 9/11 attack is going to be prosecuted, instead all the blame is going to go on a patsy OBL as the culprit and mastermind. And it is really scary, to see the media get away with such propaganda without providing any evidence (when you actually think about it!) that OBL did or had anything to do with 9/11. All they tell us is, he did it! Proof? None. It's either you accept it or your a 'conspiracy nut,' which is just a rude dismissive term used against people that actually think for a change.
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    The demolition aspect is just one aspect, there is much more such as:
    - NORAD (air defence) was doing drills on the day of 9/11 of planes flying into buildings. And coincidentally the exact same thing happened on the day of their drill? Which is more or less a cover story as to why the planes targeted for the towers, and pentagon were not intercepted once flying off course.

    - According to the official story Mohammed Atta's passport was found intact on the side-walk? Really? So you are telling me the passport managed to survive the plane impact, and the fire which was supposedly strong enough to cause the steel frame building to be pulverized and collapse into own footprint to be found intact conveniently on the side-walk! If that is the case, the towers should have been made out of that bloody resilient paper. How stupid do they think people are? Very stupid otherwise they wouldn't have done 9/11 and concocted such a BS story as a cover up to begin with.

    - Hani Hanjour allegedly responsible for flying the Boeing into the pentagon which required a maneuver that few skilled pilots would be able to do at such speeds in order to hit the pentagon how it was hit from the side, could not possibly have been done by him as he couldn't fly a Cesna plane few months prior during his training.

    - Where is all the footage that was ceased by the FBI on the day of 9/11 that would have shown what really hit the Pentagon? Instead all that has been released is a grainy image showing something that looks more like a spec and then an explosion. The Pentagon should be surrounded by cameras, where is the footage? If they never had anything to hide, and the official story is all true such footage should have been released on the same day.

    - The damage at the scene of the Pentagon does not fit that of a plane. The damage at the scene does not relate to that of a plane. Plus there was no real plane wreckage as is usually seen after a plane has crashed. Where is all the plane debris? Official story it disintegrated upon impact. Lies! That does not happen. But a lot of things seemed to happen conveniently that day for them.

    There is just so much inconsistencies between the official story and what really happened. The official story is just a poor cover up, blamed on OBL who has been made to be the big monster by the media.

    In my opinion after researching 9/11 thoroughly is that it was a false-flag terror attack. And to know who likely did you just have to follow who benefited the most from it. And it wasn't the man with an Ak-47, wearing slippers, who supposedly was operating in a non-existed CIA like cave in the mountains of Tora Bora.

    For more information on 9/11 watch the following documentaries:
    - Zero Investigation Into 9/11
    - 9/11 Blueprint for Truth
    - 9/11 Loose Change (2006), (2007) and (2009)

    There is so much more out there. Check out this for the extensive list: http://www.911docs.net/#911_Documentaries

    I won't be surprised if a conditioned sheep attempts to read my message and try debunk everything I said. Because that is all they do, they try to debunk you without offering any real information except that you must accept the 'official OBL did it story.' Well I am not going to respond to anybody, I've been through that circle too many times. We are in the year 2013, if you still can't figure that 9/11 was not done by OBL with the immense amount of proof that is out there to prove it, then there is no helping you.

    Some people would always be sheep and need the mainstream to form opinions for them. Some would wake up from that hypnotic trance. And would accept the horrible truth, because of it being the truth. Others are afraid to accept the implications of such a truth and would rather believe that OBL the patsy did it all. Why? Because of this...
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    Agreed with everything... But
    Is OBL even a real person? If he was the most wanted man ever, would it really take over a decade to get him?


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    I love it when all the conspiracy theorist nutjobs come out, it's like a "Who can make themselves sound the stupidest?" contest
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    Irrespective of all the details of the actual attacks, in my mind, the US government doesn't have a motive. There is absolutely no reason to conduct a high risk false flag attack of this nature, that if leaked, would de-legitimize the state to the point of collapse. War with Iraq/Afghanistan would have been justified by the US government without 9/11. That's the biggest problem with false flag attacks and people claiming comparisons to the Reichstag fire in '33 and Nazi-Germany. If that happened today, it would immediately be leaked/discovered.
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    (Original post by Nobody12)
    Your views and conspiracies on this?
    There was no controlled demolition, no nukes, no lizard aliens.

    But there was inexplicable and unsettling malfeasance in the failure to increase aviation security despite the fact that the US received repeated, urgent warnings from British intelligence, Israeli intelligence, French intelligence and Egyptian intelligence in the summer of 2001, and repeatedly and emphatically in the weeks leading up to the attacks warning the White House and FBI that an aviation plot involving multiple hijackings was imminent.

    The British intelligence services were basically running around with their hair on fire trying to get the Americans to pay attention, and every other major intelligence service in the world knew something was in the works and imminence, and for some reason no action was taken to step up security at the airports, ensure there was adequate air defence cover and so on.

    Whether this was conspiracy or massive incompetence on an almost incomprehensible level, we don't know because there hasn't been an adequate investigation, and this is a position supported by the 9/11 commissioners themselves, many of whom are saying there should be a new, impartial investigation.

    There was certainly a cover-up of CIA misfeasance in failing to take into custody the west coast hijacker cell (Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Midhar), who the CIA knew had entered the United States.

    And malfeasance in waiting until about three weeks before 9/11 to tell the FBI of their mistake, and even then not telling the White House and the Defense Department, and not providing all the information they had.

    There was also certainly a cover-up of the indisputable connections between Saudi government and royalty to the West Coast hijacker cell, and to Pakistani ISI connections to the East Coast (Atta & others) cells.

    If there was a conspiracy, it wouldn't have been some massive, whole-of-government conspiracy, but certainly possible that small pockets within the government, for reasons of self-interest failed to properly investigate and pursue terrorist leads for fear of insulting Saudis, or for reasons of organisational inertia and bureaucratic infighting, and the like. I suspect an unbiased history 100 years from now would see the event something along those lines, as the US government is not one monolith.
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    (Original post by Stroma)
    Pro tip: when a big plane in a sky smashes into a building, the buildings don't tend to fall straight down.
    How do you expect them to fall then? Topple sideways?

    "Ooooohh can't... keep... balance... /fall".
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    (Original post by Pete_Lawton)
    Irrespective of all the details of the actual attacks, in my mind, the US government doesn't have a motive. There is absolutely no reason to conduct a high risk false flag attack of this nature, that if leaked, would de-legitimize the state to the point of collapse. War with Iraq/Afghanistan would have been justified by the US government without 9/11. That's the biggest problem with false flag attacks and people claiming comparisons to the Reichstag fire in '33 and Nazi-Germany. If that happened today, it would immediately be leaked/discovered.
    I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusion that the US government had no motive to actively orchestrate a terror attack, but the claim that everything leaks these days is simply not true.

    There are large numbers of government secrets that are perfectly safe because keeping them safe is a well-practiced, almost scientific process. Compartmentalisation and need-to-know is a very sound process. This is why you don't actually ever really see top secret material and information from black programs leaked into the public domain.
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    (Original post by Pendulum3)
    But they have no lead in Boston, yet?
    Yeah, but there's a lot of stuff saying that the Facebook tribute page was created before the bombing (but, the page could have just been renamed) and that the police were telling people before the bombs went off to stay calm, etc? it doesn't mean I believe the theories, but it's interesting to see what people think.
 
 
 
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