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(Original post by Cool_JordH)
Well, this is what one of my friend said to me a few hours ago. I should higher, but I've been doubting my capabilities this year, even though my English teachers keep telling I'm good at what I do, but yeah, I'm feeling the pressure of A2 and to succeed!

I've applied for ABB which is uni of Kant, then the rest are from BBB-BCC so it's reasonable. And Oh, all the higher uni's need C inGCSE maths, which I haven't got but really didn't feel the need to mention that... :P

Yeah, I know... I got the highest in the class.. Should I go to my head of year about it?
Maybe it's just me but I'd rather just not go to Uni than go to a BBC or BCC uni. At the end of the day uni is a big investment and you need to make sure you are getting your moneys worth out of it. If I were you I'd apply like this or similar

AAB
ABB
BBB
BBC
BCC

If I didn't get an offer from AAB or ABB I'd work my arse off at A2 to get AAB or higher and then apply after a gap year.

I would ask your head of year to raise your prediction to a B, yes.
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Can you honestly say that English is the same as medicine?
How many times has someone saved another's life by writing a essay?

I'm not dissing either fields but one is obviously more complexed than the other.
What, that's what my main point in my previous comment was. It was the person who was comparing it. If you read my previous comment I said they are basically not the same!!

And no I honestly disagree. English Language and English Literature has been around just as long as medicine, English Literature possibly before medicine (correct me if I'm wrong).

English is so complex, you wouldn't understand because of the ignorance you get taught at GCSE (presuming you didn't take either for A-level?) Just because medicine is more fanciful and prestigious than most degrees because most people on here are like that but that just simply isn't the case. A few of my first year friends say they wish they could analyse language like I can because they think it's a skill you need and how to talk to suit a situation. Loads of science students (that I know) wish they could be more articulate with their spoken and written expression.

But to simply deny that English isn't on the same wavelength as science or medicine is ridiculous to be honest.
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Try to change it
You are one of the only ones who actually answered my question and not made it out to be something quite irrelevant! Thank-you I shall do it first thing on Monday!
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Maybe it's just me but I'd rather just not go to Uni than go to a BBC or BCC uni. At the end of the day uni is a big investment and you need to make sure you are getting your moneys worth out of it. If I were you I'd apply like this or similar

AAB
ABB
BBB
BBC
BCC

If I didn't get an offer from AAB or ABB I'd work my arse off at A2 to get AAB or higher and then apply after a gap year.

I would ask your head of year to raise your prediction to a B, yes.
Thanks for your concern, but I'm comfortable with choices I've made and have looked extensively at my options. Furthermore, I have looked at AAB universities and most of them are just the topics I'm not interested in. Also there's HARDLY, probably about 3-4 top unis that do English Language and Literature joint honours and even then they still heavily focus upon the Lit side of English which isn't what I want my degree to focus on. I want my degree split equally.
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So right at this present moment in time, it's standing at a C.. but I don't want it at a C. I got an A (98/100) on MY PHILOSOPHY paper in my AS exam and she still predicted a C which just isn't fair to be honest!

I'm apply to BCC-BBB universities so my question is should I still apply (as in the "pay/send" section of UCAS) or shall I wait until Monday to see my Philo teacher to 'force' her to change my grade to a B?
They shouldn't be allowed to predict you a grade lower than what you actually achieved at AS. You have the right to bring this up with the head of department and even someone more senior.

Actually I would kick up a fuss if I were you, because this will affect which universities will accept you.
Also, make sure you get that B rather than a C :whip:
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What, that's what my main point in my previous comment was. It was the person who was comparing it. If you read my previous comment I said they are basically not the same!!

And no I honestly disagree. English Language and English Literature has been around just as long as medicine, English Literature possibly before medicine (correct me if I'm wrong).

English is so complex, you wouldn't understand because of the ignorance you get taught at GCSE (presuming you didn't take either for A-level?) Just because medicine is more fanciful and prestigious than most degrees because most people on here are like that but that just simply isn't the case. A few of my first year friends say they wish they could analyse language like I can because they think it's a skill you need and how to talk to suit a situation. Loads of science students (that I know) wish they could be more articulate with their spoken and written expression.

But to simply deny that English isn't on the same wavelength as science or medicine is ridiculous to be honest.
Yeah, I'm the ridiculous one.
And you seem confused yourself, you're saying that you're defending it whilst not?! :confused:

You seem way too defensive about your degree. Worried you made the wrong choice or something?

Theirs nothing wrong with either subjects. I just feel as if one is more important than the other. You don't need to agree with me. Thats why people have different opinions.
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Thanks for your concern, but I'm comfortable with choices I've made and have looked extensively at my options. Furthermore, I have looked at AAB universities and most of them are just the topics I'm not interested in. Also there's HARDLY, probably about 3-4 top unis that do English Language and Literature joint honours and even then they still heavily focus upon the Lit side of English which isn't what I want my degree to focus on. I want my degree split equally.
I'm not trying to argue with you but almost every AAB uni offers English Language and Literature joint honours. It's not a particularly rare course. Most joint honour degrees let you have quite a bit of flexibility in regards to your modules, so it wouldn't be difficult for you to specialise in English Language.
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that it is still easier to study English.
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They shouldn't be allowed to predict you a grade lower than what you actually achieved at AS. You have the right to bring this up with the head of department and even someone more senior.

Actually I would kick up a fuss if I were you, because this will affect which universities will accept you.
Also, make sure you get that B rather than a C :whip:
Alright, thank you! Well the HoD for Humanities is a history teacher, she knows nothing of RE... So I'll just go to my head of year instead.

And yeah, defo gonna get that B! thank you
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Yeah, I'm the ridiculous one.
And you seem confused yourself, you're saying that you're defending it whilst not?! :confused:

You seem way too defensive about your degree. Worried you made the wrong choice or something?

Theirs nothing wrong with either subjects. I just feel as if one is more important than the other. You don't need to agree with me. Thats why people have different opinions.

Do something useful and get off my post, thank-you!
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I'm not trying to argue with you but almost every AAB uni offers English Language and Literature joint honours. It's not a particularly rare course. Most joint honour degrees let you have quite a bit of flexibility in regards to your modules, so it wouldn't be difficult for you to specialise in English Language.
I'm not saying they don't but I can't apply for those uni's because they require a C in GCSE Maths and I said somewhere else in this thread that I haven't got it, far from it so I'm not going to apply since I don't meet their general requirements.

Yeah I know but, I really don't want to specialise in either, hence why I want to study both English's equally.
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(Original post by lipslikemorphine)
Can you honestly say that English is the same as medicine?
How many times has someone saved another's life by writing a essay?

I'm not dissing either fields but one is obviously more complexed than the other.
That's ridiculous. How has complexity got anything to do with saving one's life? You can save ones life by grabbing them before they jump off a bridge.. Didn't know you needed a degree in medicine to make a rational thought?

They are both complex, and if you have no idea in what either medicine or English goes into you can't possible have this discussion?


PS: written communication is a small fraction of English. Have you not considered English as a language? If we did not have languages (including English) you tell me how the hell are you supposed to "save a life" in a medical way without verbal communication? The complexities of English is just as in-depth as Medicine. <This is basically my argument. If you cannot see this, you are ignorant and intolerant.

You cannot have an argument (a logical one at that) if you do not know anything about the matter.
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(Original post by lipslikemorphine)
Can you honestly say that English is the same as medicine?
How many times has someone saved another's life by writing a essay?

I'm not dissing either fields but one is obviously more complexed than the other.
If you're ignorant of the effect essays and novels have had throughout history which you seem very much to be then you are not in any position to be making those judgements. Writing has had at least an equivalent impact on history as medicine, arguably more of one. And no, saving a live does not make your field more "complexed". Go to a Lecturer in a renowned institution on Mathematics or Quantum mechanics or similar that you think medicine is more complicated and they'd be on the floor laughing at you. More emotionally draining? Yes. More complex? No.
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(Original post by Cool_JordH)
1. Writing a discursive/philosophical essay does not make a medical student capable of writing a GOOD essay. I do not know what they get tested on. I presume they get tested on their knowledge and not their structure of their paragraphs and most certainly not their handwriting? Writing a psycho-analytical essay on a Gothic text is slightly different from writing an essay for a test.

2. My point exactly. Do you really think a medical student knows about the complexities of grammar or essay writing? I highly doubt it, but probably.

3. What the hell? That has no sense. English isn't just about essays, clearly you're very ignorant of the subject and seem very stuck up.
1. Let's say that writing a discursive essay is the easiest thing to do in English. Every medic can do that before entering uni.

2. Let's say First Aid is the easiest thing a medic can do. Not every English student can do this at all. Some can, I'm not saying that, but most can't.

3. Point 3 wasn't even about essays. It was about the contribution of medics to society. Name me one profession you can go into with only an English degree, where you are a front-line, direct lifesaver.
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1. Let's say that writing a discursive essay is the easiest thing to do in English. Every medic can do that before entering uni.

2. Let's say First Aid is the easiest thing a medic can do. Not every English student can do this at all. Some can, I'm not saying that, but most can't.

3. Point 3 wasn't even about essays. It was about the contribution of medics to society. Name me one profession you can go into with only an English degree, where you are a front-line, direct lifesaver.
You've turned this whole argument around, saying that medicine is more complex than English because English as a subject cannot save anyone's lives. Yes that is true, but to deny a subject because it cannot a 'direct lifesaver' is ridiculous.

I'm arguing that you cannot deny English as a subject that isn't complex because it is.. If you studied the subject, you would find that out.
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You've turned this whole argument around, saying that medicine is more complex than English because English as a subject cannot save anyone's lives. Yes that is true, but to deny a subject because it cannot a 'direct lifesaver' is ridiculous.

I'm arguing that you cannot deny English as a subject that isn't complex because it is.. If you studied the subject, you would find that out.
I'm not saying that it isn't complex. I've looked at the modules taught on some English courses and Linguistics courses. Yeah, there's a lot to learn. However, my conclusive point is that if someone is choosing between English and Medicine, assuming that they have the credentials to study medicine, it is always wiser to choose Medicine. It is more exclusive (not everyone has the opportunity to do a degree in Medicine), it is more challenging because you need AAA minimum (AAB for certain unis) and you have to save lives, there is more money in it and there is more prestige and respect, purely for the role that Medics play in society.
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I'm not saying that it isn't complex. I've looked at the modules taught on some English courses and Linguistics courses. Yeah, there's a lot to learn. However, my conclusive point is that if someone is choosing between English and Medicine, assuming that they have the credentials to study medicine, it is always wiser to choose Medicine. It is more exclusive (not everyone has the opportunity to do a degree in Medicine), it is more challenging because you need AAA minimum (AAB for certain unis) and you have to save lives, there is more money in it and there is more prestige and respect, purely for the role that Medics play in society.
Oooh, I get what you're saying! Your opinion is just completely irrelevant from the initial point that was raised aha
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