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    (Original post by Will95206)
    However have you not considered that some members whop are in more junior countries might want to step up to the position rather than still represent the non SC members.
    Who are we talking about practically?

    Let's look at the MUN practically, I've been around to see it in its peak and at its denouement and right now there aren't unlimited members to replace SC members. The only justification of having an SC in our MUN is that we may provide active members to fill the seats, there is no point in creating some abstract rule that prevents active members from retaining their seats, just because they've become DSG. Let's make a parallel with the MHoC, toronto353 is the leader of UKIP, he is also the deputy speaker. Would you say he has too much power? No, probably not. Likewise here, if Superunknown17 is to remain as French representative, that is his first and sole responsibility, second to that is being DSG, because its only a small sub-forum, it isn't difficult for one member (the SG) to run the place. The DSG is supposed to be there simply as a back-up to the SG, in fact, the position of DSG didn't even exist until the third of fourth term of the original SG on the MUN!

    This isn't RL so we don't have to revert to the primal liberal fear of power centralisation, there is no power in representing an online character, and all powers within our forum are moderated by supermoderators (hence when people do become too powerful-The Mad Dog, they are banned from the website). So logically, we must retain members who are both willing to contribute to the forum and are active on a day to day basis, the DSG must be allowed to be a nation, any nation they so wish, because the only thing the SC needs to be is active and we don't have an endless pool of activity to choose from.

    Additionally to that, the biggest stiflers of activity are back-to-back elections. I've seen it in the Green sub-forum last term, where four consecutive MP elections plagued party activity and led to voter apathy. We want to avoid back-to-back elections and the upheaval of removing members unnecessarily from their positions, and this why this amendment has to pass.
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    (Original post by Will95206)
    However have you not considered that some members whop are in more junior countries might want to step up to the position rather than still represent the non SC members.
    Not much evidence of that if we are totally honest, going by the last election for an SC country...
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Who are we talking about practically?

    Let's look at the MUN practically, I've been around to see it in its peak and at its denouement and right now there aren't unlimited members to replace SC members. The only justification of having an SC in our MUN is that we may provide active members to fill the seats, there is no point in creating some abstract rule that prevents active members from retaining their seats, just because they've become DSG. Let's make a parallel with the MHoC, toronto353 is the leader of UKIP, he is also the deputy speaker. Would you say he has too much power? No, probably not. Likewise here, if Superunknown17 is to remain as French representative, that is his first and sole responsibility, second to that is being DSG, because its only a small sub-forum, it isn't difficult for one member (the SG) to run the place. The DSG is supposed to be there simply as a back-up to the SG, in fact, the position of DSG didn't even exist until the third of fourth term of the original SG on the MUN!

    This isn't RL so we don't have to revert to the primal liberal fear of power centralisation, there is no power in representing an online character, and all powers within our forum are moderated by supermoderators (hence when people do become too powerful-The Mad Dog, they are banned from the website). So logically, we must retain members who are both willing to contribute to the forum and are active on a day to day basis, the DSG must be allowed to be a nation, any nation they so wish, because the only thing the SC needs to be is active and we don't have an endless pool of activity to choose from.

    Additionally to that, the biggest stiflers of activity are back-to-back elections. I've seen it in the Green sub-forum last term, where four consecutive MP elections plagued party activity and led to voter apathy. We want to avoid back-to-back elections and the upheaval of removing members unnecessarily from their positions, and this why this amendment has to pass.
    Wow! Nice response!

    Mostly agree but if we see a huge amount of candidate for other elections going for SC place then I might be worth considering!
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    This resolution has passed!

    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
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