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So, in this present situation, should they or should they not be entitled to live off the state? I stand by my well thought resolution to this problem.
Your resolution to "put the children in a meat grinder" is rather silly, illogical and has no bearing to the solution of the problem involving single mothers. They are children, and although they have been born into a family, where their parents may not have worked a day during their lifetime, they should get support from the state. In a limited amount however, and the new bill proposed by the Tories will ensure that families on benefits will have a cap on the amount they are allowed to receive.

These children did not decide to be born into a "benefit-depending" family, and although I understand your resentment and anger, they need to be supported. Otherwise, we will have a quite disjoint Britain where part of our society will live below the poverty line. Countries outside the first world with no functional welfare system show this.
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Your resolution to "put the children in a meat grinder" is rather silly, illogical and has no bearing to the solution of the problem involving single mothers. They are children, and although they have been born into a family, where their parents may not have worked a day during their lifetime, they should get support from the state. In a limited amount however, and the new bill proposed by the Tories will ensure that families on benefits will have a cap on the amount they are allowed to receive.
A limited amount? What if that's not enough to live on? Why torture a bunch of kids with poverty when you could just send them to heaven in a meat grinder? Either decision, you go to hell.

You god damn whiny liberals. You just don't have the balls to make the tough decisions for what's best for the country.

These children did not decide to be born into a "benefit-depending" family, and although I understand your resentment and anger, they need to be supported. Otherwise, we will have a quite disjoint Britain where part of our society will live below the poverty line. Countries outside the first world with no functional welfare system show this.
YES I AM HIGHLY RESENTFUL AND ANGRY. I PAY MY TAXES SO WE CAN BLOW UP TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN NOT PROP UP THE DECADENT LIFESTYLES OF POOR MINDED PEOPLE DAMMIT.
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This is a fairly interesting subject.

If I get onto a graduate scheme (fairly big if) I'll be earning a minimum of £25k, approx £2000 a month. I figured that would be enough for me to rent a place of my own, pay all the bills, buy food, clothes etc. But other people on here are saying that you can't live on that kind of money.

I really can't stand to live with parents/ family for ever so I hope that people can survive on £2000 a month.
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Well, I think it is quite clearly irresponsible to have more children than you can support.

Anyway, if they can't live off what they're now getting, how come they're still alive? And how do at least two of them manage to be quite obviously obese?

(Original post by ooerr)
I find it really depressing that we pay for people to literally have as many kids as they want. A lot of people think it is a "right" to have a child just because we are biologically made to do so, but it is not a right to claim benefits to support that child, it's a privilege.
Well, it is a right. Unfortunate, but true.
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(Original post by Extremotroph)
A limited amount? What if that's not enough to live on? Why torture a bunch of kids with poverty when you could just send them to heaven in a meat grinder? Either decision, you go to hell.

You god damn whiny liberals. You just don't have the balls to make the tough decisions for what's best for the country.



YES I AM HIGHLY RESENTFUL AND ANGRY. I PAY MY TAXES SO WE CAN BLOW UP TERRORISTS IN AFGHANISTAN NOT PROP UP THE DECADENT LIFESTYLES OF POOR MINDED PEOPLE DAMMIT.
No need for capitals. You would be rather ignorant to think that all your taxes go towards the welfare of the unemployed. It is a rather small proportion, and gets divided to fund different areas of the public sector. It is a limited amount as this encourages single mothers such as the one described in the previous page, to find work, and to be less dependent on benefits. Quite obviously, the disabled and elderly wouldn't be included in this "limitation", but you get the gist. It would also discourage prospective mothers to think before having multiple children, as they would now be aware that the state wouldn't support them financially, due to the so-called "cap" system.

I can not see what is wrong behind this. Although it may be open to abuse by many, the coalition government has already introduced a bill, I believe, that would strip families off benefits if they have not adequately been active in seeking work.

There were also debate surrounding the notion of "work for free" or "lose your benefits" in parliament.

But to be honest, having seen the atrocious living conditions that some, who are dependant on benefits, live in, I am strongly against removing the benefit system.
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Unless it's to get a nice big house which is the motive for many large families, there is no point. And of course it's wrong.
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The worst thing is that a situation like this just breeds future instances of the same situation. No doubt her kids, who have grown up knowing no better, will all have multiple children of their own and, thus, the cycle continues (and in some cases worsens).
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That's absolutely pathetic. Why have they a huge family and didn't prepare for the worst case scenario, living on benefits? We'd all love to get £2000 a month, what a ****ing selfish bint.
Because they don't plan, they are uneducated and stupid.
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It is wrong to have children if you can't afford to look after them properly. Of course the government should always be obliged to help, but the help they're obliged to give is minimal, and any parent who brings a child into the world knowing that the child won't get the absolute best, they are horrible people imo.
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Why does she think they can't survive on £2000 a month? It's not going to be luxurious but living on benefits shouldn't be, it should be just enough to survive until you can get a job.
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Not sure about this specific case as I'm not going to make out the writing in the left hand column, but what if the family in general could afford the children at the time of birth.

People complaining about their tax bill, the amount you'd personally contribute towards a family is very small. It doesn't make it right obviously as it's very irresponsible and damn right cruel to have children you can't afford.
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Contraception is free...

It is down right terrible to have children and then expect others to pay for their upbringing. So this woman cant manage on 2k a month, some folks work hard for less and they have no choice but to manage.
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I agree with the calls to sterilise it. We need to sterilise anybody like this.

As a side bonus these people probably aren't benefitting the gene pool immensely.


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