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The main British political parties, and why they suck.

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Problem with major political parties is that they're all full of Zionists. IT doesn't matter if they are left or right, conservative or liberal at the end of the day when it comes to things like war, immigration they cannot be trusted.
Original post by Dandaman1
I have so far gathered this much about the main political parties in England:

Conservative Party (Tories) A bunch of old, money-loving, socially detached fatcats working in the interests of big business and corporations. Voted for by snooty, middle/upper class white folk and old people.

Labour Party Left-wing socialist party with ironically biased ‘equality’ regimes. Middle/high-income white men beware. Voted for by the working class and ethnic minorities.

Liberal Democrats Progressive and idealistic, but without any backbone or a sense of pragmatism. They tend to lie and make false promises. Voted for by young people and the politically ‘enlightened’.

Also:

The Green Party - Eco-freaks and hippies out for a greener, gayer world. Voted for by hippies, tree-huggers, and the good people of Brighton.

British National Party (BNP) - Fourth Reich, anyone? Voted for by skinheads, racists, homophobes, and Neo-Nazies

UK Independence Party (UKIP) - A slightly more cynical conservative party consisting mostly of Tory turncoats who really, really hate the EU. Voted for by closet racists, climate change deniers, and the cynically inclined.

Is that about right? Who do you support? :colone:


Way to overgeneralize. You go girl.
Labour are not and never have been a 'socialist' party.
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Your generalisations of the political parties is mostly false. The main reason why mainstream politics "suck" is that it is mainly dominated by two parties who are both quite near to each other on the political spectrum. Your choice is really between one centre-right party and another. Labour have not been socialist for a loooong time and never will be again, they cling onto that identity to score political points from socialists who think they're voting for far more equal economic policies. In truth Labour believe in a free market economy just as much as the tories and were more than complicit in creating the unbalanced economy of the U.K in which money is gravitated to the banking and finance sectors and to London.

Basically we need to look into colonising the moon because we've ****ed up and we all need to start again.
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Original post by Ripper-Roo
Do you work for the government by any chance?

I don't mean this offensively, I just see you defend a lot of the Conservative policies on here.


Being fair while the Tories have done some bad things a lot of students on here seem to attack them for the slightest thing and can't possibly accept that anything they do could be helpful.

There are far too many politically ignorant people (on TSR and in the real world).

Original post by Ornlu
Labour is no longer the 'poor man's' party, as mentioned before. Alas, no respectable mildly socialist party is out there; they'd have my vote.


Greens are pretty socialist.
Reply 25
Original post by bulletnips
Your generalisations of the political parties is mostly false. The main reason why mainstream politics "suck" is that it is mainly dominated by two parties who are both quite near to each other on the political spectrum. Your choice is really between one centre-right party and another. Labour have not been socialist for a loooong time and never will be again, they cling onto that identity to score political points from socialists who think they're voting for far more equal economic policies. In truth Labour believe in a free market economy just as much as the tories and were more than complicit in creating the unbalanced economy of the U.K in which money is gravitated to the banking and finance sectors and to London.



This. The English rejected socialism in the 1980's and Labour rightly took the adapt or die approach.

It's also worth noting that when we did have the post war Socialist government Conservative membership swelled to 3 million while Labour got to less than 2 so even then the English electorate was not exactly pining for socialism.

I would however say that most of the 1945-1979 period was somewhere between centrist and mildly socialist, the Tory governments of the time were complicit in high taxes and state behemoths so never really rolled back much of what Attlee did.
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Original post by Rakas21

Greens are pretty socialist.


I'm vaguely aware of what the Greens want but since their main issue is climate change, I have an issue with that. Indeed, beeing environmentally concerned is a noble cause to be espoused; however I think that their policy to rapidly expand into green energy would be bad for businesses and the public - prices on energy would rise drastically, for example... But that's just my opinion based on my understanding of their aims (however limited)
Reply 27
Original post by Ornlu
I'm vaguely aware of what the Greens want but since their main issue is climate change, I have an issue with that. Indeed, beeing environmentally concerned is a noble cause to be espoused; however I think that their policy to rapidly expand into green energy would be bad for businesses and the public - prices on energy would rise drastically, for example... But that's just my opinion based on my understanding of their aims (however limited)


Most socialists governments would be bad for business. Not to mention the massive structural changes that some of the more extreme socialists want such as all businesses to become co-operatives (though how they'd get funding when no rich capitalist would want to lay down the capital to give his profits away is beyond me).
Reply 28
I think your remarks are devoid in many respects. For instance, New Labour, has been aberrant from socialism for quite some time, and as many have stressed; both the tories and New Labour are similar in all aspect. There is hardly any division in politics, which is why I'm quite apathetic to it in general. Ukip on the other hand, have instigated a debate on immigration, and they have broached some serious issues, which have been cast aside due to the political correction which permeates the political world. Ukip has appealed to ethnic minorities also, rather than the closet racists which you seem to fervently proclaim. It just explicitly conveys how you have succumbed to the diatribe spouted by the BBC, and other broadcasting associations who are the behest of these central parties.
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