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    (Original post by Mankytoes)
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...record-numbers

    "One in 20 gay men and men who occasionally have sex with men are HIV positive in the UK – and in London, the ratio is as high as one in 12."

    Considering other reasons they don't let you give blood, like going to dangerous countries, this is definitely reason enough to not give it. Science, not prejudice.
    Thanks for the link, I see. Wow..I never knew the HIV rate among homosexual males was so high in the UK. Why is it like that? Surely they know about safe sex etc, its as if the rate is continually increasing.
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    (Original post by Mankytoes)
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...record-numbers

    "One in 20 gay men and men who occasionally have sex with men are HIV positive in the UK – and in London, the ratio is as high as one in 12."

    Considering other reasons they don't let you give blood, like going to dangerous countries, this is definitely reason enough to not give it. Science, not prejudice.
    Indeed, but fortunately it's not something that is inherent to homosexuals, just as higher criminality (if one considers prison numbers proportionate to population demographics) is not inherent to certain ethnic minorities in the UK.

    Hopefully as gay men become more "normalised" in the UK and less on the fringes of society, and thereby rebelling against normative sexual behaviour, we will see a decrease in the numbers.
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    Thanks for the link, I see. Wow..I never knew the HIV rate among homosexual males was so high in the UK. Why is it like that? Surely they know about safe sex etc, its as if the rate is continually increasing.
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    Thanks for the link, I see. Wow..I never knew the HIV rate among homosexual males was so high in the UK. Why is it like that? Surely they know about safe sex etc, its as if the rate is continually increasing.
    Because HIV/AIDS drugs are very advanced in that "this means that the life expectancy for someone living with HIV, who is on anti-retroviral treatment and responding to treatment, is no different to the general population".

    Hence that 1 in 20 figure isn't seen as a big deal by the media, etc. At least for the first world, AIDS just ain't that bad anymore.

    You earlier statement was actually a little out of date, homosexuals can now donate as long as they haven't had sex (with a man) for a year http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Blood-d...an-use-it.aspx
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    (Original post by Lady Comstock)
    Culture. See above.
    Thanks. You really do learn something new everyday.
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    (Original post by Mankytoes)
    Because HIV/AIDS drugs are very advanced in that "this means that the life expectancy for someone living with HIV, who is on anti-retroviral treatment and responding to treatment, is no different to the general population".

    Hence that 1 in 20 figure isn't seen as a big deal by the media, etc. At least for the first world, AIDS just ain't that bad anymore.

    You earlier statement was actually a little out of date, homosexuals can now donate as long as they haven't had sex (with a man) for a year http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Blood-d...an-use-it.aspx
    But higher proportions of gay men with HIV have existed for quite some time.

    I still think it is largely a result of culture; one that has developed out of the underground, secretive activities of gay men in the past, where more risks were taken and it was just about sex as a public relationship was out of the question.
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    (Original post by Lady Comstock)
    1. Indeed, but fortunately it's not something that is inherent to homosexuals, just as higher criminality (if one considers prison numbers proportionate to population demographics) is not inherent to certain ethnic minorities in the UK.

    Hopefully as gay men become more "normalised" in the UK and less on the fringes of society, and thereby rebelling against normative sexual behaviour, we will see a decrease in the numbers.

    2. But higher proportions of gay men with HIV have existed for quite some time.

    I still think it is largely a result of culture; one that has developed out of the underground, secretive activities of gay men in the past, where more risks were taken and it was just about sex as a public relationship was out of the question.
    1. Anal sex is way, way more risky than vaginal, that's more the reason than gay men having more casual sex (though they do).

    2. If you read back, I was saying why HIV was going up, not why the high rates have always existed.
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    They cause bad weather don't they? :lol:
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    (Original post by Solivagant)
    They cause bad weather don't they? :lol:
    Mainly flooding.
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    All these people saying 'none' are being foolish.

    On average homosexuals cause about as much harm as heterosexuals, which is a non-zero quantity.

    Please, there's no call for heterophobia.

    :lol:

    Homosexuals don't cause any harm as a result of their homosexualness.
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    (Original post by Solivagant)
    They cause bad weather don't they? :lol:
    Only if you annoy us. S'all part of the Gay Agenda, you see.
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    A large homosexual population can be partly responsible for less babies being born and therefore a society in which a large elderly population has to be financed by a smaller workforce.
    Straight people who choose not to have children by far outnumber gay people.
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    No harm as far as I'm concerned.

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    None, I grew up around people who didnt like them, but then I went to uni and met many homosexuals, and I tell you what, there some of the coolest and funniest people you could ever meet.
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    (Original post by Mankytoes)
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...record-numbers

    "One in 20 gay men and men who occasionally have sex with men are HIV positive in the UK – and in London, the ratio is as high as one in 12."

    Considering other reasons they don't let you give blood, like going to dangerous countries, this is definitely reason enough to not give it. Science, not prejudice.
    Why not blood test them so the clinic knows they're safe?
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    I really have no idea, I've always wondered this too. I recently discovered that homosexuals cannot just sign up and give blood, why?
    HIV spreads very quickly among gay men. Infact, it used to be called 'gay' something acquired disease and renamed.
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    To many people, what constitutes moral and decent behavior is something that transcends harm. We don't decide what things should be allowed and what things shouldn't be allowed based only on harm. What does harm even mean? Are we only talking about physical harm or are we also talking about psychological harm?

    I can ask the exact same question when it comes to walking around naked or even masturbating in public? What harm am I causing? Sure, people may be disgusted or offended, but that's their problem not mine. I'm not actively hurting them. So why does society look down upon it despite the fact that it causes no harm.
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    Thanks for the link, I see. Wow..I never knew the HIV rate among homosexual males was so high in the UK. Why is it like that? Surely they know about safe sex etc, its as if the rate is continually increasing.

    That's just a made up number based on a relatively small survey... There is no way of determining how many homosexuals there are in Britain.

    All they can go on is how many have been diagnosed with HIV and how many of that number were openly gay.

    It's just a plain made up guess.
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    Theoretically: OMG everything! Actually: Nothing, Zilch, Nada.
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    Homosexuals cause no harm to society, it is as simple as that. Studies suggest that homophobic heterosexual men are more aroused by homosexual porn than their non-homophobic counterparts.
 
 
 
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