Sick, perverted people. IMO there is a HUGE difference between a cartoon making a mockery of a religious leader who has probably never even existed, and cartoons making a mockery of the barbaric and very real atrocities of the holocaust- the death and persecution of innocent human beings. It is distasteful to say the very least, a total lack of humanity and good ethics.
This shows how backward Iran is- the fact that they actually see the miseries of the holocaust as a joke is testament to their uncivilised and backward way of thinking.
But no, i'm not going to go on the streets and start demanding the slaughter of all Iranians. People in the West, it would seem, are more practiced in reasoning and are more open-minded. Most of us can take a few cheap insults without throwing a hissy fit- but things like this clearly aren't going to received well in the minds of the Germans and indeed the West as a whole, the Iranians seem to be digging themselves a rather large hole.
nice try to get out of it. Your original sentence is very clear.
when did i, or anyone else (other than the iranian goverment or press, who i have already agreed is messed up) condone genocide?
'Sick, perverted people.'
'This shows how backward Iran is- the fact that they actually see the miseries of the holocaust as a joke is testament to their uncivilised and backward way of thinking.'
'But no, i'm not going to go on the streets and start demanding the slaughter of all Iranians.
It sounds like he has a problem with ordinary Iranians to me, and seems to think that all Iranians hate the west and worship the crazy ideology of thier government. I never defended the Iranian govenment did I? I don't know where you get this idea from, quote me perhaps. He needs to differentiate between the Iranian govt and the Iranians themselves.
I've said it before i'll say it again *sigh*
Respect goes both ways, they should stop their nonsense, everyone should stop this disrespectful cartoons malarky!
Now, while i directly conflict with Beekeeper in opinions - this came up in one of the Danish cartoons thread - I think that religious leaders (prophets [pbut]) hold more people's respect than politicians (at the time of the Danish cartoons i think they found anti-Sharon/ anti-Israel pics)
The same way one can criticise/ defame the Pope (lesser of two evils) but not Jesus (AS). Personal opinion.
On the whole i'll condemn everything - the cartoons against muslims, and the muslims' cartoons. Free speech works around respect and self-control (garnished with dignity) and i think it's a poor excuse/ justification for offending people.
I can see your logic, but based on the general friendlyness and reasonablity of the Iranian people, I think its irrelevant how he was elected, and Carl is probably right anyway, but I don't know either way.
Ahmedinejad was a populist. He wasn't elected because he hated the West, but because he was seen as a man of the people. I'd send you my essay on his election, but it, and all it's sources, are in French.