It's not true though, the XUD/DW9 engines are some of the most reliable engines ever.
You can't deny they are noisy and dog slow?
No more noisy than any diesel of the indirect injection generation, no. Dog slow - not at all, the first cars considered to be performance diesels (i.e. ZX) were TD XUD engines. The main problem is there reliability, few cars I could ever find had reasonable mileage.
The PAS XUD was around since 1990 or so, if not earlier, are you sure any direct injection diesel engine existed then? Most manufacturers skipped direct and went straight from indirect to common rail.
I can see you guys are talking really in depth here, but its just a first car that has got to last me 2-3 years. Im looking at a M reg punto tomorrow- 1.7 diesel. What do you guys think?
Don't bother - the 1.7 D in the Punto isn't any quicker than the 1.2 8v (60) nor is it more economical, you have a higher tax cost too - hence motoring will more expensive and slightly more dull.
The 1.2 8v will cost you less to purchase in the first place also.
The 1.7 is far too heavy for the Punto's chasis to handle. Don't bother, awful cars, the FIRE units are so much better suited to the small and light chasis.
Because direct injection never really caught on, the XUD was the diesel engine of the 90s, simple as.
My oldest brother got a Renault 19 as his first car and he's always been really pleased with it. Don't know all the details, but it might be worth looking in to. They're quite cheap to get hold of and apparently it drives really well. He's had really good service from Renault when he's had a niggle with the car.
Another brother has had 2 306's and has had trouble with both for reliability. He's now running a car put together from bits of both...
Im possibly going to get myself a Renualt Clio tomorrow for £995, phoned the guy who said he'd left it a garage for MOT so went and had a look without him around.
It failed MOT, but on minor things, headlight doesnt work, sum rubber seal needed replacing. Garage people said was the odd small things. I took my dad along tho as he's into he cars + machanics, i wouldn't of had a clue. I think u either need to know what to look 4, or find sum u know who does, so easy to be conned
Also insurance for a Clio is the cheapest ive found for anything. £961 by Direct Line, and i only passed test yesterday
This punto Im looking at seems pretty good value though. £600, and its not just how it drives, but how it looks. Its been kept in really good condition.
Also, could people give me links to pictures of other cars they are suggesting.