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    (Original post by Harjot)
    Just wanted to point out that HTML and CSS are not languages.
    I'm pretty sure that HTML is a Laguage
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    If i'm wrong, please explain, i'm fairly new to web design
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    (Original post by ProppaNutty)
    I'm pretty sure that HTML is a Laguage
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    If i'm wrong, please explain, i'm fairly new to web design
    In fact, HTML is not a programming language!
    It defines the structure of webpages and it determines how data is displayed online. What you’re looking at right now is HTML code, read and interpreted by your browser. But this doesn’t make HTML a programming language.
    The web browser then reads the HTML, which tells it things like which parts are headings, which parts are paragraphs, which parts are links, etc.
    Generally, a programming language allows you to describe some sort of process of doing something, whereas HTML is a way of adding context and structure to text.
    I hope you have understood my explanation.

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    (Original post by Zenarthra)
    Oh looking smart btw.
    I just wanted to know, what does it take to make things like mobile apps, is it really difficult?
    Im guessing you wouldn't be able to manage on your own?

    Thanks!
    Not at all. Mobile apps are pretty easy to start building at the moment, hence why there has been such a boom. All you'll really need to do is download Eclipse with the Android Development Tools plugin and start learning Java and the Android SDK.

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    I'm pretty sure that HTML is a Laguage
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    Generally, languages that are used to make representing data structures easier for humans, like HTML, XML, YAML, JSON, etc., are not considered programming languages as you are not really programming anything (the programming is done for you, in the form of the interpreter that converts the human-readable structure to a machine-readable one).
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    (Original post by CJKay)
    Not at all. Mobile apps are pretty easy to start building at the moment, hence why there has been such a boom. All you'll really need to do is download Eclipse with the Android Development Tools plugin and start learning Java and the Android SDK.



    Generally, languages that are used to make representing data structures easier for humans, like HTML, XML, YAML, JSON, etc., are not considered programming languages as you are not really programming anything (the programming is done for you, in the form of the interpreter that converts the human-readable structure to a machine-readable one).
    You can download an already prepared environment (Eclipse ADT + Android SDK)
    There are some tutorials on youtube.com, I started with applications from a video. I just do not refer you because it's in Portuguese!
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    (Original post by felipe87)
    You can download an already prepared environment (Eclipse ADT + Android SDK)
    There are some tutorials on youtube.com, I started with applications from a video. I just do not refer you because it's in Portuguese!
    Ah, I did wonder where that got to. I'm used to installing everything as a plugin as ARM DS-5 took over my Eclipse already heh.
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    (Original post by CJKay)
    Ah, I did wonder where that got to. I'm used to installing everything as a plugin as ARM DS-5 took over my Eclipse already heh.
    No trouble, I just posted to help him. I think it's easier to who will start now.
    Furthermore, he can choose the best option. =)
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    (Original post by felipe87)
    No trouble, I just posted to help him. I think it's easier to who will start now.
    Furthermore, he can choose the best option. =)
    (Original post by CJKay)
    Ah, I did wonder where that got to. I'm used to installing everything as a plugin as ARM DS-5 took over my Eclipse already heh.
    I think the best thing about programming is that you dont need to take a university course to study the language you have chosen in a greater depth, would you guys agree?
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    (Original post by Zenarthra)
    I think the best thing about programming is that you dont need to take a university course to study the language you have chosen in a greater depth, would you guys agree?
    Definitely. Any other degree and I wouldn't have a chance at a job with my grades! :lol:
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    (Original post by CJKay)
    Definitely. Any other degree and I wouldn't have a chance at a job with my grades! :lol:
    Definitely.
    Here in Brazil, for example, programmers don't have a syndicate, because isn't a regularized job.
    Is common a teenager (with 14 or 15 years) know a little about programming. Some programming better than graduates.

    I believe it to be so in others countries. There are many ways for learning, mainly online: blogs, sites, videos, forums, community, tutorials, etc.
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    (Original post by Zenarthra)
    I think the best thing about programming is that you dont need to take a university course to study the language you have chosen in a greater depth, would you guys agree?
    Absolutely true (definitely not the "best thing about programming" though); however, I studied theoretical computer science and I believe it gives me a much greater depth of understanding of the work I do.

    Anyway, to answer the original question - I'm a senior-level C#.Net developer at a web development agency. Technology stack used is typically the usual HTML, CSS, JS plus the MS stack: C#, ASP.NET (MVC), MS SQL Server.

    It doesn't take a certain amount of time to "fully learn" a programming language - it takes thousands of hours of programming and studying to become an expert in a language and you never stop learning it. Especially when those languages are continually developing themselves. Even once you know the language inside-out (which, if you think you do, you probably don't), programming and software engineering are skills - you never truly master them, you just continually get better (as long as you are studying and ensuring you do get better - it's entirely possible to develop bad habits, not understand what you're doing properly and actually get worse).
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    Mid level developer.
    .net stack: c#, vb.net, HTML,CSS,JavaScript,asp.net, ms SQL server, wpf.
    I do a mix of web app and desktop app development.
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    (Original post by Zenarthra)
    Wow great explanation thanks!
    So you didnt even take a course?
    I didn't no, if you enjoy that sort of thing and have the motivation to learn it you don't really need one. That said, it does help speed your learning a lot if you have a mentor/tutor to take the errors you can't solve to.
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    (Original post by felipe87)
    In fact, HTML is not a programming language!
    It defines the structure of webpages and it determines how data is displayed online. What you’re looking at right now is HTML code, read and interpreted by your browser. But this doesn’t make HTML a programming language.
    The web browser then reads the HTML, which tells it things like which parts are headings, which parts are paragraphs, which parts are links, etc.
    Generally, a programming language allows you to describe some sort of process of doing something, whereas HTML is a way of adding context and structure to text.
    I hope you have understood my explanation.

    =)
    It's not a programming language but the question wasn't specifically regarding programming languages. It's a markup language, but a language non the less.
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    (Original post by hannah4225)
    It's not a programming language but the question wasn't specifically regarding programming languages. It's a markup language, but a language non the less.
    (Original post by ProppaNutty)
    I'm pretty sure that HTML is a Laguage
    HyperText Markup Language

    If i'm wrong, please explain, i'm fairly new to web design
    In fact, HTML is a language. It's classified like markup language. Reason has already been explained.
    I really thought it was understood the concept of language.
    I thought the question was: HTML is a programming language?
    So, answer: No, is a markup language.
    ProppaNutty, ok now?
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    (Original post by felipe87)
    In fact, HTML is a language. It's classified like markup language. Reason has already been explained.
    I really thought it was understood the concept of language.
    I thought the question was: HTML is a programming language?
    So, answer: No, is a markup language.
    ProppaNutty, ok now?
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    (Original post by CJKay)
    Ah, I did wonder where that got to. I'm used to installing everything as a plugin as ARM DS-5 took over my Eclipse already heh.
    Man, I hate Eclipse. Coming from a Delphi background which had a tremendously rich IDE, Eclipse felt like notepad with a few convenience options. Switched over to IntelliJ, it is pretty awesome.

    Anyone else feel the same?


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    (Original post by Harjot)
    Man, I hate Eclipse. Coming from a Delphi background which had a tremendously rich IDE, Eclipse felt like notepad with a few convenience options. Switched over to IntelliJ, it is pretty awesome.

    Anyone else feel the same?


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    I can't stand eclipse, but my personal favourite is visual studio

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    (Original post by Harjot)
    Man, I hate Eclipse. Coming from a Delphi background which had a tremendously rich IDE, Eclipse felt like notepad with a few convenience options. Switched over to IntelliJ, it is pretty awesome.

    Anyone else feel the same?


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    I like my Eclipse!
    But I use to Java Web and Android.
    So, I cannot express my opinion about eclipse for Delphi.. :^_^:
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    (Original post by Zenarthra)
    What web designing languages do you know?
    How long did it take you to learn each of them?
    How useful are they and what are they useful for?
    Can you recommend which books to purchase in order to learn these languages thoroughly?

    What programming languages do you know?
    How long did it take you to learn each of them?
    How useful are each of them and what particular job do they occupy?
    Can you recommend any books?

    Much appreciated thanks!
    PHP,HTML,CSS,JavaScript(JQuery), XML and Perl ( Though I have dabbled in lisp )
    In terms of 'learning' any of them it's relatively quick. Although I actively use all of them I don't feel that I have mastered any (Disregarding HTML,CSS as these are merely markup/non-logical languages)

    I have had 2+ years experience with PHP but am consistently learning new things. I have recently been working with ioc containers and am having to refactor a huge project I started a very long time ago with roughly 100,000 lines. Even now however I am still learning new things with this language. Learning a language never stops, I have assumed you mean to reach the point at which you're competent in writing with the language.

    I can't be bothered to go through my experience in every single language.

    Programming languages ( C#, C, C++ ) Very active with C#

    Though, I have used languages such as Java, ActionScript, Python and some assembly languages ( Though I am not fluent with them to any extent )
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    (Original post by BridgetLaLa)
    Hi everyone,
    I am in need of a PHP developer. Get in touch if you are interested. It is a simple site - users are to sign in (via FB) and then can post and comment on posts. That's it!
    Thanks
    I would, but I'm not too good at php

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