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    Hi, thanks so much for the advise. You mentioned 40 offers. Does that mean that if 40 applicants accepted their offer and meet the conditional requirements, then 40 people will be on the course instead of 30?

    You also mentioned about being reflective in your personal statement. Does that mean saying what you've learnt and how that relates to the role of a doctor?

    Do you also have any advise for practising for ukcat? How long so you need? Is one month enough? How many hours in total do you think you spent?

    Thanks again
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    That's fair enough. Have you at least started thinking about it? These things take a lot of time and tweaking. Even if you just form a basic outline it is better not to rush it :sadnod:.

    What year are you in?

    A really good start is to lay bullet points out under the headings:

    Why medicine? (paragraph)

    Work Experience (This and volunteering should make up the main bulk of your statement, even if you don't have a lot of placements)

    Volunteering

    Extra currics (couple of sentences)

    Summary (couple of sentences).
    I've just finished College (year 2) and might take a gap year to apply if I get the grades.

    What if my work experience and voluntary work is scheduled after 15th October? How do I meant to include that in my Personal statement?
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    (Original post by hopefulmedic786)
    I've just finished College (year 2) and might take a gap year to apply if I get the grades.

    What if my work experience and voluntary work is scheduled after 15th October? How do I meant to include that in my Personal statement?
    Have you got any that you can write about? They're looking to see that you've got a good grasp of medicine and the work. However you don't need it. You must have been a patient at some point? You'll just need to show you understand from a different perspective.

    Don't forget work experience can be anything with vulnerable people. Not just shadowing.

    You can also write a short sentence or two at the bottom about future W/E and what you hope to gain from it
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    Have you got any that you can write about? They're looking to see that you've got a good grasp of medicine and the work. However you don't need it. You must have been a patient at some point? You'll just need to show you understand from a different perspective.

    Don't forget work experience can be anything with vulnerable people. Not just shadowing.

    You can also write a short sentence or two at the bottom about future W/E and what you hope to gain from it
    I was admitted in a hospital for 5 days last year and had an operation. So I guess I do have a slight experience of how doctors work as I observed the times they done the ward round, what junior doctors were doing alongside them, and how all the doctors associated with a particular patient communicated with each other to come to a reasonable conclusion.
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    That's fair enough. Have you at least started thinking about it? These things take a lot of time and tweaking. Even if you just form a basic outline it is better not to rush it :sadnod:.

    What year are you in?



    A really good start is to lay bullet points out under the headings:

    Why medicine? (paragraph)

    Work Experience (This and volunteering should make up the main bulk of your statement, even if you don't have a lot of placements)

    Volunteering

    Extra currics (couple of sentences)

    Summary (couple of sentences).
    Hi (again)

    I just wanted to ask where would you put your gap year paragraph and do you have to include things you have already done or planning to do or even both? Thanks
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    (Original post by SchoolKid.)
    Hi (again)

    I just wanted to ask where would you put your gap year paragraph and do you have to include things you have already done or planning to do or even both? Thanks

    Thing you have done: Yes if relevant to medicine (as in... can you make it relevant? Not just medical things).
    Things you're going to do: Yes but keep it very short and say "In my gap year I am planning to ---. I hope this experience will..."

    Gap year would go between extra currics and summary

    Nice you see you again
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    (Original post by hopefulmedic786)
    I was admitted in a hospital for 5 days last year and had an operation. So I guess I do have a slight experience of how doctors work as I observed the times they done the ward round, what junior doctors were doing alongside them, and how all the doctors associated with a particular patient communicated with each other to come to a reasonable conclusion.
    Yep, that's useful It's less about the specific tasks they were doing (ward rounds etc) but more about how they do it. So did you see how doctors communicated with you, and the importance of that? Did you see a difference in how they spoke to staff or how the multidisciplinary staff worked together as a team? It's worth having a thumb through Tomorrows Doctors and Duties of a Doctor and seeing the characteristics med schools are looking for you to show
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    Yep, that's useful It's less about the specific tasks they were doing (ward rounds etc) but more about how they do it. So did you see how doctors communicated with you, and the importance of that? Did you see a difference in how they spoke to staff or how the multidisciplinary staff worked together as a team? It's worth having a thumb through Tomorrows Doctors and Duties of a Doctor and seeing the characteristics med schools are looking for you to show
    Yep I observed everything and also their behaviour and attitude towards their patients. In addition, I also observed the nurses and how their role is vital to the patients. One of the nurses said that I'll make a good doctor and when I become one, she hopes that I treat her when she gets old. This was one of the reasons as well that I wanted to become one as it shows that people see a good doctor in me.
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    Hey here's my stats:
    GCSE's: 4A's 4B's 1C 1D + 2 Distinctions
    Still waiting for my AS results and I think I've got ABBC (Maths, Biology, Chemistry and Physics) I'm not sure thou.

    Work Experience:
    6 months in a Nursing Home
    2 weeks in a clinical hospital
    Done the NCS The challenge
    Done Duke of Edinburgh Gold
    5 years of volunteering at my church (started in 2009)
    --- I've got a few more coming soon!

    Do you think I have a chance in getting through? I've still got to do the UKCAT and I'm hoping for a score around 650-700. Fingers crossed thou.
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    (Original post by johnmanner)
    Hey here's my stats:
    GCSE's: 4A's 4B's 1C 1D + 2 Distinctions
    Still waiting for my AS results and I think I've got ABBC (Maths, Biology, Chemistry and Physics) I'm not sure thou.

    Work Experience:
    6 months in a Nursing Home
    2 weeks in a clinical hospital
    Done the NCS The challenge
    Done Duke of Edinburgh Gold
    5 years of volunteering at my church (started in 2009)
    --- I've got a few more coming soon!

    Do you think I have a chance in getting through? I've still got to do the UKCAT and I'm hoping for a score around 650-700. Fingers crossed thou.
    Well BM6 doesn't use the UKCAT and interview is based on personal statement, so how good is your personal statement? :P With all that experience it should hopefully be good!

    What is the D in your GCSEs if you dont mind me asking? There are certain subjects required to be C+
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    Well BM6 doesn't use the UKCAT and interview is based on personal statement, so how good is your personal statement? :P With all that experience it should hopefully be good!

    What is the D in your GCSEs if you dont mind me asking? There are certain subjects required to be C+
    It was in French so it shouldn't matter I suppose :P
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    (Original post by johnmanner)
    It was in French so it shouldn't matter I suppose :P

    That's fine then! All comes down to the PS. Make sure it meets the non academic entry requirements as that's what they mark it on. Competition is really tough but someone has to get those offers
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    Hi guys.
    Just enquiring about the BM6 programme at Southampton. I've just finished my A levels in chemistry, maths and psychology & awaiting my results. I am hoping to get at least ABB (a in psychology, b in maths, b in chemistry).

    I have finished my third year at college (I had to redo my AS levels with one A2 in my second year of college due to extenuating circumstances - I can explain this to admissions)

    However, I have not studied biology at AS or A2 level, so if I apply, would I be OK studying biology to AS level whilst applying or would I have to study it to A2 level?

    My GCSE's were: B in maths, B in english literature, B in english language, C in chemistry, C in biology, C in physics, Pass in ICT, C in geography, D in french.

    With my stats, would I be OK to apply to BM6 at Southampton bearing in mind I get ABB at A level? If so, do I have to sit the UKCAT to apply for BM6? If so, what score do I need to get minimum and when is the deadline for sitting UKCAT tests? The only thing I'm really worried about is the lack of Biology & doing three years at college.

    Also with my grades, what other foundation schools would you suggest applying for?
    Thank you

    Edit : I have heard about the clinical sciences at Bradford and that you can transfer to leeds medical school if you do well in the first year. However, I haven't studied biology so do you think I would need to study A2 biology externally whilst applying. Also, I have applied for pharmacy at the moment (didn't know what I wanted to study at the time, and have bradford as my insurance choice. If I cancel my application and apply for the clinical sciences do you think they will care that I previously applied for pharmacy)
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    (Original post by californicationn)
    Hi guys.
    Just enquiring about the BM6 programme at Southampton. I've just finished my A levels in chemistry, maths and psychology & awaiting my results. I am hoping to get at least ABB (a in psychology, b in maths, b in chemistry).

    I have finished my third year at college (I had to redo my AS levels with one A2 in my second year of college due to extenuating circumstances - I can explain this to admissions)

    However, I have not studied biology at AS or A2 level, so if I apply, would I be OK studying biology to AS level whilst applying or would I have to study it to A2 level?

    My GCSE's were: B in maths, B in english literature, B in english language, C in chemistry, C in biology, C in physics, Pass in ICT, C in geography, D in french.

    With my stats, would I be OK to apply to BM6 at Southampton bearing in mind I get ABB at A level? If so, do I have to sit the UKCAT to apply for BM6? If so, what score do I need to get minimum and when is the deadline for sitting UKCAT tests? The only thing I'm really worried about is the lack of Biology & doing three years at college.

    Also with my grades, what other foundation schools would you suggest applying for?
    Thank you

    Edit : I have heard about the clinical sciences at Bradford and that you can transfer to leeds medical school if you do well in the first year. However, I haven't studied biology so do you think I would need to study A2 biology externally whilst applying. Also, I have applied for pharmacy at the moment (didn't know what I wanted to study at the time, and have bradford as my insurance choice. If I cancel my application and apply for the clinical sciences do you think they will care that I previously applied for pharmacy)
    It is my understanding that you would need a full A level in biology to qualify for the BM6 course now.

    Your GCSEs are fine, ABB is fine and yes you'd need to take the UKCAT but they don't use it unless there are two extremely similar applicants to choose between for an offer. You need to take it before 3rd of Oct but you need to book it before then.

    I would call and ask regarding the 3 years and biology but they usually decide on a case by case basis so might not be able to give you a definite answer. Even then it is unusual for a levels over 3 years to be okay unfortunately.

    Have you looking at Manchester, UEA, Kings, and I think Durham do one now? Just a case of looking around and seeing where you qualify

    I am not sure about Bradford I am afraid. They won't care what you previously applied for no

    Worth mentioning if you do start a course it is very hard to then switch to medicine.

    Have you considered graduate entry? Although it is more competitive and it looks like specialist courses are being phased out but it is osmething else to look into.



    Let us know what you find out and how you get on!!
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    It is my understanding that you would need a full A level in biology to qualify for the BM6 course now.

    Your GCSEs are fine, ABB is fine and yes you'd need to take the UKCAT but they don't use it unless there are two extremely similar applicants to choose between for an offer. You need to take it before 3rd of Oct but you need to book it before then.

    I would call and ask regarding the 3 years and biology but they usually decide on a case by case basis so might not be able to give you a definite answer. Even then it is unusual for a levels over 3 years to be okay unfortunately.

    Have you looking at Manchester, UEA, Kings, and I think Durham do one now? Just a case of looking around and seeing where you qualify

    I am not sure about Bradford I am afraid. They won't care what you previously applied for no

    Worth mentioning if you do start a course it is very hard to then switch to medicine.

    Have you considered graduate entry? Although it is more competitive and it looks like specialist courses are being phased out but it is osmething else to look into.



    Let us know what you find out and how you get on!!
    Hey, thanks for the reply. For all the foundation medical degrees, Widening access programmes or Clinical Sciences, they either want A level biology at A2, or want A levels to be done in two years, which is a bummer! I did email Clinical Sciences at Bradford , and they saidthat I probably wouldn't be eligible for the Clinical Sciences due to lack of biology (which at the end of that year, transfer to year 2 of leeds ), but should be eligible for the foundation clinical sciences (transfer to year 1 of leeds).

    I've heard about graduate entry medicine, although I wouldn't want to waste 5 years in tuition fees for pharmacy (9000 x 5 = 45000), to end up paying further money for medical school.
    However, I got told that if I do not get interviewed after the foundation clinical sciences (to year 1), then I can go on to the clinical sciences (and apply the year after for year 2). Then say, worst comes to worst and I don't get interviewed either time, I can complete the Clinical Sciences degree then apply for GEM graduate entry medicine.

    I was also looking at medical schools abroad, with an intention of practicing back in the UK, seeing as I wouldn't be eligible for UK foundation schools. I had a look at a medical school called Riga Stradins University in Latvia (in the capital of Latvia, Riga). They don't require biology and my A level subjects are suitable. There are supposed to be lots of international students (from the UK) studying there. It is a 6 year programme including FY1 in Latvia, and then students apply for the FY2 posts themselves (in the UK, I assume).

    I also got told by a student at Riga that sometimes a few students can get transferred to a UK medical school if they do really well in the first year of the Riga course, but apparently it's extremely difficult - do you think they're telling bluffs on this?

    The tuition fees are also cheaper than the UK (8000 euro for the first two years, 6300 pounds) and then 10000 euros from third year to sixth year, 7900 pounds. I assume that you don't get paid in the FY1 integrated year, as you are paying for the tuition fee. Do you think I would be able to find an FY2 placement in the UK after graduation, and then be able to find specialist training posts in the UK. I am hoping to go into general practice, with psychiatry as a back up option

    Do you think I'm better off going for the Foundation Clinical Sciences (apply this september, for september 2015 entry) and eventually going into a UK medical school, or to apply abroad to Riga for February 2015 entry?

    Thanks
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    (Original post by californicationn)
    Hey, thanks for the reply. For all the foundation medical degrees, Widening access programmes or Clinical Sciences, they either want A level biology at A2, or want A levels to be done in two years, which is a bummer! I did email Clinical Sciences at Bradford , and they saidthat I probably wouldn't be eligible for the Clinical Sciences due to lack of biology (which at the end of that year, transfer to year 2 of leeds ), but should be eligible for the foundation clinical sciences (transfer to year 1 of leeds).

    I've heard about graduate entry medicine, although I wouldn't want to waste 5 years in tuition fees for pharmacy (9000 x 5 = 45000), to end up paying further money for medical school.
    However, I got told that if I do not get interviewed after the foundation clinical sciences (to year 1), then I can go on to the clinical sciences (and apply the year after for year 2). Then say, worst comes to worst and I don't get interviewed either time, I can complete the Clinical Sciences degree then apply for GEM graduate entry medicine.

    I was also looking at medical schools abroad, with an intention of practicing back in the UK, seeing as I wouldn't be eligible for UK foundation schools. I had a look at a medical school called Riga Stradins University in Latvia (in the capital of Latvia, Riga). They don't require biology and my A level subjects are suitable. There are supposed to be lots of international students (from the UK) studying there. It is a 6 year programme including FY1 in Latvia, and then students apply for the FY2 posts themselves (in the UK, I assume).

    I also got told by a student at Riga that sometimes a few students can get transferred to a UK medical school if they do really well in the first year of the Riga course, but apparently it's extremely difficult - do you think they're telling bluffs on this?

    The tuition fees are also cheaper than the UK (8000 euro for the first two years, 6300 pounds) and then 10000 euros from third year to sixth year, 7900 pounds. I assume that you don't get paid in the FY1 integrated year, as you are paying for the tuition fee. Do you think I would be able to find an FY2 placement in the UK after graduation, and then be able to find specialist training posts in the UK. I am hoping to go into general practice, with psychiatry as a back up option

    Do you think I'm better off going for the Foundation Clinical Sciences (apply this september, for september 2015 entry) and eventually going into a UK medical school, or to apply abroad to Riga for February 2015 entry?

    Thanks

    I really don't know much about applications abroad! I am so sorry. There are lots of threads in the medicine section about applying abroad and a lot of people who will be able to help but I am not one of them.

    I wish you al the best with your application!
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    I really don't know much about applications abroad! I am so sorry. There are lots of threads in the medicine section about applying abroad and a lot of people who will be able to help but I am not one of them.

    I wish you al the best with your application!
    Hiya, I've just been reading all your advice and it's great. Thanks a lot, it's really helpful.
    I was just wondering, suppose I get like BBC or something, I have to choose three other medicine courses too, as I can only write one Personal Statement and that would have to be about Medicine. I'm not aware of any other unis who go as low as these grades.

    If you don't mind me asking , what other courses did you apply for and where ?
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    (Original post by PriyaPaul)
    Hiya, I've just been reading all your advice and it's great. Thanks a lot, it's really helpful.
    I was just wondering, suppose I get like BBC or something, I have to choose three other medicine courses too, as I can only write one Personal Statement and that would have to be about Medicine. I'm not aware of any other unis who go as low as these grades.

    If you don't mind me asking , what other courses did you apply for and where ?

    Leeds, Nottingham, Kings, UEA, Manchester all have foundation programmes I believe and are worth looking into. I applied to other 5 year courses but lots of similar courses recognise that medicine is so competitive that you have to write only about it. Lots of them will therefore happily accept a medicine personal statement, or if you ask, may will accept a separate PS outside of UCAS.

    Hope that helps!!
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    (Original post by Neostigmine)
    Leeds, Nottingham, Kings, UEA, Manchester all have foundation programmes I believe and are worth looking into. I applied to other 5 year courses but lots of similar courses recognise that medicine is so competitive that you have to write only about it. Lots of them will therefore happily accept a medicine personal statement, or if you ask, may will accept a separate PS outside of UCAS.

    Hope that helps!!

    Thankk youu
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    Do Southampton allow as many retakes as you want within the two years?
    Also, do they allow retakes outside two years(e.g three years)?
 
 
 
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