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    My laptop and iphone are always fully charged so no problem for me.
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    I can understand this for security measures. Also I'm not sure what you're on about with airports not having good enough phone charging areas. Every airport I have been to has had a **** tonne of plug sockets in the waiting lounge.
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    (Original post by Shabalala)
    Well obviously Intelligence services of the US have discovered a viable threat regarding electronic devices and have shared that information with MI5/MI6 who have then agreed with the US security measures, they wouldn't do something like this if their wasn't a viable threat, obviously they aren't going to come out with everything they have discovered there are plenty of undercover agents risking their lives as we speak to discover vital intelligence as we speak.

    As for it being a bother, it's not bloody hard to stay off your phone untill after you get passed security it isn't exactly hard to stay off your phone for a few hours.

    I can guarantee you if the Intelligence Services had discovered the threat and not acted on it and then one of these devices had gone off and a plane had been blown out of the sky, then people moaning would have been the same ones having a go at them for not acting on the information they had.
    Yes people are protecting us- however if they are enforcing this rule don't you think they should provide more free charging facilities? It is a bother to many people. Do you have young siblings/children that get bored on long journeys to the airport- you can't keep them quiet with a electronic device now in fear your child will get it taken off them when boarding. What about business people on their laptops? Are they expected not to work at all until the arrive at their destination, and then again not work once they leave their destination and get home?

    Also, I feel like letting you know, in regards to when they check the devices- it's at security and when they are boarding the flight. In some cases that can be up to 5 hours, not including travel to the airport, if not more if there is a long delay- it may be hard for families with children, business people, people contacting worried family members to keep off their phone.


    (Original post by SophieSmall)
    I can understand this for security measures. Also I'm not sure what you're on about with airports not having good enough phone charging areas. Every airport I have been to has had a **** tonne of plug sockets in the waiting lounge.
    What airports have you been to? When I go to Gatwick, which is the one I usually use, I cannot find enough phone charging areas. There are only a few, which are actually meant for use by the cleaners.
    At first with this new regulation, people will become paranoid and worried that their phone will run out of charge- even if it is still fairly charged from before, this means that more people will be seeking out chargers just to give that last extra boost in battery. This combined with the lack of free charging facilities will results in people getting overly worried about their devices for no reason surely?

    I agree with the regulation, it's keeping us all safe! However, I do think they should be providing more free plug areas or free phone charging units- if this regulation will be affecting all passengers then they should be provided for free because innocent people shouldn't have to suffer due to an uncharged device.
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    (Original post by swanderfeild)
    Not really a big deal.
    Being refused travel and treated as a terrorist simply for having a dead battery or broken device seems like quite a big deal to me. I have no idea how this could possibly be an effective measure when the device battery could simply be replaced with a smaller one.

    Holidaymakers and business travellers who arrive at airport security with uncharged mobile phones or other electrical items will be stopped from boarding planes bound for the United States and effectively treated like “terrorists”.

    British Airways said passengers who failed to turn on devices when asked will be immediately banned from their US flight and have to reschedule, even if they offer to abandon the item or send it on separately.

    Britain’s main airline warned that even a new device bought in the airport lounge after passing through security will have to be charged up or the passenger will not be allowed to board at the gate. Any transfer passenger whose device has gone flat on the first leg will also be prevented from their onward travel unless they can recharge first.
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    I see SLR cameras are included, so what if it turns on, doesn't stop there being a bomb in the lens..

    I guess if they feel its really necessary, for I can see it causing huge backlogs. There was a guy being interviewed on BBC news saying the technology to scan a device for a bomb regardless of if its turned on/off already exists and most airports already have the actual devices to do it, they just need small tweaks/upgrades. So....that would seem like a sensible option...
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    They should introduce wireless charging stations to solve the problem of there being not enough plug sockets at the airport. The last few times I've flown, I've not been able to charge my phone at the airport due to all the sockets being taken up. Most new phones these days have wireless charging built in except iPhones.
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    I expect I'm being naive here, but if the battery is flat and you have the charger with you, then you can demonstrate to the security people that it is capable of being being switched on/charged by plugging it in and switching it on when asked to demonstrate this, because I'm pretty sure they will find a socket for you at the security gate in that situation.
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    (Original post by carnationlilyrose)
    Presumably it shows it's a real functioning phone. I doubt the makers of iphones leave so much free space inside that you can stuff a bomb in there as well.
    Its a silly idea really.

    A functioning phone is arguably just as dangerous - if anything its more dangerous as software installed on the device can be run to trigger an explosion elsewhere on an aircraft.

    All of this is just trying to quell panic at a time when the ISIS situation is going on to avoid damage to the airline business.

    (Original post by ChickenMadness)
    In Mexico airports have free charging facilities. Such a simple solution lmao.

    UK and USA out common-sensed by Mexico :rolleyes:
    These aren't free. These costs will be added on to the costs of flights and put on to the customers instead.
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Its a silly idea really.

    A functioning phone is arguably just as dangerous - if anything its more dangerous as software installed on the device can be run to trigger an explosion elsewhere on an aircraft.

    All of this is just trying to quell panic at a time when the ISIS situation is going on to avoid damage to the airline business.


    These aren't free. These costs will be added on to the costs of flights and put on to the customers instead.
    They are free. I've used them. They have machines with about 24 different cables coming out of them for different types of devices.
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Its a silly idea really.

    A functioning phone is arguably just as dangerous - if anything its more dangerous as software installed on the device can be run to trigger an explosion elsewhere on an aircraft.

    All of this is just trying to quell panic at a time when the ISIS situation is going on to avoid damage to the airline business.


    These aren't free. These costs will be added on to the costs of flights and put on to the customers instead.
    Well, I'm afraid I regularly have a rant about an article I read about the guy who put all the airport security measures in place after 9/11 now regretting it and admitting that it does nothing but that it's too late to turn the clock back. Alas for my poor husband, I usually choose to have that rant very loudly whenever we are going through airport security.
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    (Original post by skd1996)
    Yes people are protecting us- however if they are enforcing this rule don't you think they should provide more free charging facilities? It is a bother to many people. Do you have young siblings/children that get bored on long journeys to the airport- you can't keep them quiet with a electronic device now in fear your child will get it taken off them when boarding. What about business people on their laptops? Are they expected not to work at all until the arrive at their destination, and then again not work once they leave their destination and get home?

    Also, I feel like letting you know, in regards to when they check the devices- it's at security and when they are boarding the flight. In some cases that can be up to 5 hours, not including travel to the airport, if not more if there is a long delay- it may be hard for families with children, business people, people contacting worried family members to keep off their phone.




    What airports have you been to? When I go to Gatwick, which is the one I usually use, I cannot find enough phone charging areas. There are only a few, which are actually meant for use by the cleaners.
    At first with this new regulation, people will become paranoid and worried that their phone will run out of charge- even if it is still fairly charged from before, this means that more people will be seeking out chargers just to give that last extra boost in battery. This combined with the lack of free charging facilities will results in people getting overly worried about their devices for no reason surely?

    I agree with the regulation, it's keeping us all safe! However, I do think they should be providing more free plug areas or free phone charging units- if this regulation will be affecting all passengers then they should be provided for free because innocent people shouldn't have to suffer due to an uncharged device.
    Liverpool, Manchester, Belfast and even Derry airport (which is the tiniest airport ever it has like 2 gates) all had plug sockets laying about for you to charge your phone at and Belfast and Liverpool also have specific phone charging areas. I get the feeling you maybe didn't look around Gatwick properly as it is (I'm pretty sure, if im not getting it confused with another airport) a fairly large airport.

    Even still it is really not that hard to make sure you charge your phone before you leave your house and not spend all day on it in the airport wasting battery, just like it's not hard too put your liquids in a zip lock bag. It's just another thing for people to moan about unnecessarily.
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    (Original post by ChickenMadness)
    They are free. I've used them. They have machines with about 24 different cables coming out of them for different types of devices.
    They're not free. You think they are but they're actually added to the costs of flights. You wouldn't see it but it'd get added on dont worry. They're in it for profits and electricity costs money. They don't do it out of the kindness of their hearts. Nothing is free in this world when business is concerned.

    Just like when hotels tell you free breakfast is included it is not. Its added into the cost of the room.

    (Original post by carnationlilyrose)
    Well, I'm afraid I regularly have a rant about an article I read about the guy who put all the airport security measures in place after 9/11 now regretting it and admitting that it does nothing but that it's too late to turn the clock back. Alas for my poor husband, I usually choose to have that rant very loudly whenever we are going through airport security.
    The thing people need to accept is if a terrorist is hell bent on doing such a thing then they probably will. Most fail because they haven't got the guts to go through with it as opposed to being foiled. You can either live your life in panic or just get on with things.

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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    They're not free. You think they are but they're actually added to the costs of flights. You wouldn't see it but it'd get added on dont worry. They're in it for profits and electricity costs money. They don't do it out of the kindness of their hearts. Nothing is free in this world when business is concerned.

    Just like when hotels tell you free breakfast is included it is not. Its added into the cost of the room.



    The thing people need to accept is if a terrorist is hell bent on doing such a thing then they probably will. Most fail because they haven't got the guts to go through with it as opposed to being foiled. You can either live your life in panic or just get on with things.

    Thats quite obvious and just being pedantic though.
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    (Original post by n00)
    Being refused travel and treated as a terrorist simply for having a dead battery or broken device seems like quite a big deal to me. I have no idea how this could possibly be an effective measure when the device battery could simply be replaced with a smaller one.
    You wouldnt unless you are arguing that somehow in the entire airport there isnt one wall socket; which is ridiculous assertion. If your battery is dead, you tell the security officer this is the case, they will escort you to where they have wall socket (probably in the security area itself) and you show that it works.
    As for broken device, why would anyone take broken device on hand carry?
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    (Original post by swanderfeild)
    You wouldnt unless you are arguing that somehow in the entire airport there isnt one wall socket; which is ridiculous assertion.
    Well it's possible, especially if everyone else is looking for a socket too.

    (Original post by swanderfeild)
    If your battery is dead, you tell the security officer this is the case, they will escort you to where they have wall socket (probably in the security area itself) and you show that it works.
    What makes you think they will be so accommodating? You've clearly not had much experience of airport security.

    (Original post by swanderfeild)
    As for broken device, why would anyone take broken device on hand carry?
    I'm sure there are many possible reasons why someone would want to do this. For instance laptop charger jacks are notoriously ****, I've never had one that hasn't broken, you could easily break it on the way to the airport.
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    (Original post by SophieSmall)
    Liverpool, Manchester, Belfast and even Derry airport (which is the tiniest airport ever it has like 2 gates) all had plug sockets laying about for you to charge your phone at and Belfast and Liverpool also have specific phone charging areas. I get the feeling you maybe didn't look around Gatwick properly as it is (I'm pretty sure, if im not getting it confused with another airport) a fairly large airport.

    Even still it is really not that hard to make sure you charge your phone before you leave your house and not spend all day on it in the airport wasting battery, just like it's not hard too put your liquids in a zip lock bag. It's just another thing for people to moan about unnecessarily.
    In my experience I have not found an available, free plug socket at Gatwick at any of the terminals. They are limited- and they are not actually allowed to be used by the public- they are for cleaners. There may be some there- but not enough to cope with the demand.

    It is difficult to keep a smart phone charged- even if the screen is shut and locked. That's without delays or flight changes.

    (Original post by ChickenMadness)
    They are free. I've used them. They have machines with about 24 different cables coming out of them for different types of devices.
    They are definetly not free in the airports I've used- I'd be fine with the regulations if they were provided for free.

    (Original post by carnationlilyrose)
    I expect I'm being naive here, but if the battery is flat and you have the charger with you, then you can demonstrate to the security people that it is capable of being being switched on/charged by plugging it in and switching it on when asked to demonstrate this, because I'm pretty sure they will find a socket for you at the security gate in that situation.
    That doesn't occur. You simply are either told you cannot board that flight and must rearrange another or have the device taken off you.

    (Original post by n00)
    Being refused travel and treated as a terrorist simply for having a dead battery or broken device seems like quite a big deal to me. I have no idea how this could possibly be an effective measure when the device battery could simply be replaced with a smaller one.
    Completely agree with this.
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    I'm sorry, but who brings uncharged devices with them anyway? All this 'public outcry' is ridiculous. If you go on a trip with all of your devices out of battery, then there is clearly something wrong.
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    (Original post by skd1996)
    That doesn't occur. You simply are either told you cannot board that flight and must rearrange another or have the device taken off you.
    Has this happened or are you merely speculating?
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    Ugh my laptop battery is so [email protected] that I will never be able to take it abroad again. It literally won't turn on unless it's plugged in.
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    (Original post by tnetennba)
    Ugh my laptop battery is so [email protected] that I will never be able to take it abroad again. It literally won't turn on unless it's plugged in.
    It's only flights to the USA.
 
 
 
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