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    This is a pointless thread who agrees?
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    (Original post by Kolasinac138)
    Serbia killed Bosnian Muslims, not Bosnian Serbs. Serbs + Bosnian Serbs killed Croats and Bosnian Muslims.
    and albanians in serbia ? they aren't serb citizens ?
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    and albanians in serbia ? they aren't serb citizens ?
    No, they're Kosovan citizens.
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    which country was worse in your opinion. if you consider what israel has done over the last 20 years.
    Serbia in the 1990s, easily. Among many other things;

    1. The Serbs before 1992 already had their own national state – Serbia – and an independent multinational Bosnia-Herzegovina was an entirely reasonable compromise solution to the Bosnian Serb national question, as all of BiH’s post-war constitutions defined it as such. Bosnian Serbs had traditionally viewed Bosnia as their homeland and supported Bosnian autonomy, and a significant part of them indeed did accept Bosnian independence in 1992. The Jews on the other hand have no national state but Israel, and there was no realistic alternative for the fulfilment of their national aspirations; a bi-national Jewish-Arab state in Palestine was not a serious possibility.
    2. Furthermore, nobody in Bosnia or Kosovo denies the right of Serbia to exist as a state, or denies the legitimacy of the Serbs’ national existence. Nobody is threatening to wipe Serbia off the map. By contrast, what makes the Israeli case unique is the way that wide sections of the Arab and Muslim worlds have linked the Palestinian cause with rejection of the legitimacy of Israel as a state and nation, and a belief that Israel ought rightfully to disappear.
    3. In Palestine, the Arabs rejected the UN partition plan of 1947 and started the war by attacking the Jewish community in Palestine. Although there has been wrongdoing by Israel since 1948, ultimately the Arab side bears the greater blame for the outbreak and persistence of this conflict. On the other hand, it was the Serb nationalists who rejected the moderate option and started the war in 1992.
    4. Whatever the faults of the SDA regime, which was undoubtedly highly corrupt and frequetly brutal to its political opponents; it was not on a par with Hamas today or Hajj Amin Al-Husseini in 1948. Izetbegovic favoured Muslim coexistence with non-Muslims in Bosnia; Hamas would like to wipe out the Jews or drive them into the sea. The SDA did not claim that Bosnia was wholly Muslim land, or that Serbs and Croats had no place in it.
    5. Similarly, Ben-Gurion and the Mapai regime in Israel in 1948 were undoubtedly ready to behave very unscrupulously and were prepared to be ruthless towards the Arabs, but it was simply not equivalent to the regime of Radovan Karadzic or Slobodan Milosevic. Neither Ben Gurion, or any Israeli leader since, has ever organized a genocide (contrary to what some propagandists claim). There is no Israeli atrocity even remotely comparable to Srebrenica, Foca, Visegrad et cetera. Israeli massacres like Deir Yassin are well known partly because they were relatively rare; in Balkans in 1990s massacres on the scale of Deir Yassin pretty much a daily occurrence.
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    As much I dislike the Serb apologists coming from their diaspora in London so do I dislike thoose who demonise Serbs. Not all of them were *******s back in the 1990s, Also, Srebrenica was not the faulth of exclusivly Serbs, as there are some indications that Alija left the civilians behind and that the Dutch batallion did not protect them when they needed to.


    Also, there are some other massacres that could be classified as genocide but unfortunately thanks to Carla del Ponte never got persecuted. The recently found mass grave near Tomašica of about 2000 people or the never persecuted war criminal Sefer Halilović.
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    (Original post by zgb1)
    As much I dislike the Serb apologists coming from their diaspora in London so do I dislike thoose who demonise Serbs. Not all of them were *******s back in the 1990s, Also, Srebrenica was not the faulth of exclusivly Serbs, as there are some indications that Alija left the civilians behind and that the Dutch batallion did not protect them when they needed to.


    Also, there are some other massacres that could be classified as genocide but unfortunately thanks to Carla del Ponte never got persecuted. The recently found mass grave near Tomašica of about 2000 people or the never persecuted war criminal Sefer Halilović.
    Not you again....

    Tomasica was Bosnian victims... :confused:
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    (Original post by Kolasinac138)
    Not you again....

    Tomasica was Bosnian victims... :confused:
    Yes, massgraves of Muslims and Croats. never deny that. Your point?
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    i would say isreal. If you count the number of Palestinians killed since 1947, you would be close to 7 figures. Serbia was a fast genocide that finished quickly were isreal is just a slow massacre and genocide
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    (Original post by golden tribe)
    i would say isreal. If you count the number of Palestinians killed since 1947, you would be close to 7 figures. Serbia was a fast genocide that finished quickly were isreal is just a slow massacre and genocide
    You may want to double check that figure. Less than 20,000 have been killed on both sides in the conflict since the 1940's.
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    (Original post by golden tribe)
    i would say isreal. If you count the number of Palestinians killed since 1947, you would be close to 7 figures. Serbia was a fast genocide that finished quickly were isreal is just a slow massacre and genocide
    Since you cannot even spell Israel one suspects you may not have much of a clue what you're talking about.

    As james already said, the true number is around 20,000. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli...ct#cite_note-2 for source.

    And Israel's "genocide" is so slow that the Palestinian population is growing faster than almost any other in the world.

    Please take a moment to think about that and perhaps consider that your opinion is based on lies not truth.
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    I'm the last person to mindlessly defend Israel but Serbia was a heck of a lot worse :/
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    Serbia
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    I believe this to be a troll. Thats how poor a question this is.
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    Majority of Palestine are jihadists as is Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Kurdistan, Morocco and every country in the Middle East regions apart from Israel of course. These terrorists will stop at nothing to destroy the rest of the world and so for the survival of mankind we must decimate them by nuke or any other means.

    Where's that facepalm emoticon when I need it...
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    (Original post by Blues Clues)
    Where's that facepalm emoticon when I need it...
    Yup lol. I'm not sure how suing nukes will lead to the survival of man kind :lol]:
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Yup lol. I'm not sure how suing nukes will lead to the survival of man kind :lol]:
    Let's end all wars... by having a war!
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    (Original post by Blues Clues)
    Let's end all wars... by having a war!
    The game is to conquer all the countries with coasts that don't have nukes and are non alligned, you then starve landlocked countries and finally conquer them.

    Alternatively Israel could force out all Palestinians and then conquer regions of its neighbors with a decent Christian population while allying with the Kurds who get their state.
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    Israel. This zionist state has caused nearly 70 years of suffering. It knows it is running out of time with ISIS gaining ground and strength.
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    (Original post by devils18)
    Israel. This zionist state has caused nearly 70 years of suffering. It knows it is running out of time with ISIS gaining ground and strength.
    Yeah, that's something all sane people should support - ISIS taking over everything from Iraq to the Med. That's not going to cause all sorts of trouble for everyone else in the world!

    The rise of ISIS (essentially no different in ideology to Hamas or Hezbollah) is reason enough to be more than a little supportive of Israel. In many ways they are fighting the front line of war affecting all in the West. (Although in some ways it is not).
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    (Original post by UniOfLife)
    Yeah, that's something all sane people should support - ISIS taking over everything from Iraq to the Med. That's not going to cause all sorts of trouble for everyone else in the world!

    The rise of ISIS (essentially no different in ideology to Hamas or Hezbollah) is reason enough to be more than a little supportive of Israel. In many ways they are fighting the front line of war affecting all in the West. (Although in some ways it is not).
    So you support the killing of children playing football on the beach and children having fun on a playground? What about the right of the Palestinias to defend themselves? The West have played a huge part in the middle east crisis. It's silence over the massacres committed by the terror state of Israel says it all. People are turning to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah because they are willing to take action the other muslim nations who run by puppets of the US.
 
 
 
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