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    (Original post by elmosandy)
    No, IGCSE's are not for state schools. The Level 1/2 Certificate ( IGCSE Certificate for state schools: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/e...s/default.aspx ) IS for state schools ONLY. Private,International and Homechooled students can do IGCSE's: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/Pages/default.aspx . There's a difference.

    Read that, hahahahah. Stop it, sick and tired of people thinking they know everything.
    Ok dear.
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    (Original post by yellowcopter)
    Whatever you say. You seem to know more. :rolleyes:

    I know I didn't do the Certificate, as my exam didn't have an 'R' on it. An 'R' is placed on the element code of Certificate exams, to identify them from the iGCSE versions of the papers. Look at iGCSE and Certificate papers, and notice how the Certificate ones have an 'R'.

    I also did an CIE iGCSE exam. CIE don't have a 'certificate' alternative for the UK. Yet I was able to do it. Interesting.

    Edit: Stop editing your posts and then maybe I'll be able to respond to the whole post.

    Urm well I think you're wrong with theres no cie certificate versions/aternatives because there is well here if you read the bottom(before it goes onto gcse 2015 changes) said that UK indipendent schools(which I said in my previous post above could do the non certificate igcses) can ethier do Cambridge IGCSE or the Level 1/2 certificate versions (then again this proves i'm wrong when I said before that the certificate is ONLY can be used in state schools, but hey ho :P): http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and...se/uk-schools/

    ALSO if you read that its says: "*The syllabuses marked with an asterisk above have a different syllabus code from the Cambridge IGCSE because the content or model of assessment is not exactly the same. All the others are identical. Please see the syllabus document for details."
    And if you click on the English Language it states that its avaiable to schools in the zone 3 area which is the uk only http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and...guage-uk-0522/
    The other cie IGCSE English: http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and...language-0500/ isn't funded in uk schools and DOESN'T count in league tables.

    Idk what cie exam you did and maybe i'm wrong here.. maybe people in state schools were/are to do the 0500 instead of the 0522, maybe all state schoolers can/did do the Cambridge IGCSE instead of the level 1/2 certificate& uk school alternative in all their subjects, maybe I am wrong when I thought that the IGCSE's were only for private/homeschoolers/international students BUT as I was saying, there is clearly CIE cerfiticate versions and alternatives for UK schools, when you're saying there isn't and I don't know what i'm talking and according to you I can't read. You might have even taken the cie Certificate/Zone 3(UK) Alternative without even knowing and you just thinking its the iGCSE. :rolleyes:. Interesting.



    EDIT(and this is the last time I edit this):
    As for Edexcel R, it means timezone???, as you'll read here for the June 2014/June 205 exams: http://www.edexcel.com/iwantto/Pages...rnational.aspx the r code exams are for international only. The UK exams have no R code: http://www.edexcel.com/iwantto/Pages...tables-uk.aspx , Hence this is the reason why your IGCSE's did NOT have the R code on it. So AGAIN I think you're wrong and idk you're going with "An 'R' is placed on the element code of Certificate exams, to identify them from the iGCSE versions of the papers. Look at iGCSE and Certificate papers, and notice how the Certificate ones have an 'R'."

    But(and this is confusing) but, like you told me to do I looked at the International GCSE page: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/i...s/default.aspx
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    The Edexcel Cerfiticate Page: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/e...s/default.aspx and under both their pages they have the IGCSE paper and the R paper, so maybe everyone(private/homeschoolers and state schoolers) does take the same paper?(again, another mistake of mine, I thought the certificates were a totally different paper to the IGCSE'S) I think though even if its the same exam papers it can ethier go down on record as The Edexcel Certificate and count towards school league tables and towards the eBacc(which you can only do at school..) or you can have it as a just International GCSE. Does say here the certifcate is based on 2009 spec: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/e...s/default.aspx
    They've made two different pages so even though the papers are the same I think there's a difference... Maybe the difference is if you're at state school it goes down as certificate and if you're at private it goes down as International GCSE. Then again I could be wrong, BUT the R papers are CLEARLY not for certificates ahahah...




    Tbh idk about OCR iGCSE's but AQA's IGCSE English Lan&Lit are DEFfO only available to private/state schools as it includes assessment.(which you cant do at home).


    Anyways... it doesn't really matter,gcses/igcses/o level,level 2 and 1's they're all the same level and equivalent to each-other(even if people think vocational qualifications, such as btec,nvq,etc arent and too easy and joke,etc) and can get you to different and higher places... this has gone off-topic, no-one answered my question properly.... so hopefully me being a year behind ill still make as a biologist or ill sty here and rot and cry for all my life and be stuck in another crap job for me


    But I think its YOU who needs to learn to read. You don't really know anything about the difference about IGCSE/Certificates alternatives, The R code isn't an "element" for Certiifcate papers and there IS Cambridge Certificates/Zone 3 Alternatives. You're just acting like you know what you're talking about when you don't. Whatever you say, you know better than me:rolleyes:. Good luck though for your results, I hope you get your marks you aimed for xoxoxo



    (sorry for all spelling mistakes/too long to read/confusing,etc... probably need to sort that out if I want to be a biologist!)
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    (Original post by Sulfur)
    Ok dear.

    Sorry for being abit rude in the answer, just tired but yeah its the same exam tbh, doesn't really matter, good luck with your results!
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    (Original post by elmosandy)
    Urm well I think you're wrong with theres no cie certificate versions/aternatives because there is well here if you read the bottom(before it goes onto gcse 2015 changes) said that UK indipendent schools(which I said in my previous post above could do the non certificate igcses) can ethier do Cambridge IGCSE or the Level 1/2 certificate versions (then again this proves i'm wrong when I said before that the certificate is ONLY can be used in state schools, but hey ho :P): http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and...se/uk-schools/

    ALSO if you read that its says: "*The syllabuses marked with an asterisk above have a different syllabus code from the Cambridge IGCSE because the content or model of assessment is not exactly the same. All the others are identical. Please see the syllabus document for details."
    And if you click on the English Language it states that its avaiable to schools in the zone 3 area which is the uk only http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and...guage-uk-0522/
    The other cie IGCSE English: http://www.cie.org.uk/programmes-and...language-0500/ isn't funded in uk schools and DOESN'T count in league tables.

    Idk what cie exam you did and maybe people in state schools were/are to do the 0500 instead of the 0522, maybe all state schoolers can/did do the Cambridge IGCSE instead of the level 1/2 certificate& uk school alternative in all their subjects,maybe I am wrong when I thought that the IGCSE's were only for private/homeschoolers/international students BUT as I was saying, there is clearly CIE cerfiticate versions and alternatives for UK schools, when you're saying there isn't and I don;t know what i'm talking and according to you I can't read.You might have even taken the cie Certificate/Zone 3(UK) Alternative without even knowing and you just thinking its the iGCSE. :rolleyes:. Interesting.



    As for Edexcel R, numorous people have told me it means different timezone? The R is for people outside uk or england, and they've the made the R paper so people wouldn't cheat,etc maybe its for the certificate douting it because ive actually looked at Edexcel International GCSE:
    http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/i...s/default.aspx and & The Edexcel Certificate: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/e...s/default.aspx

    and you can clearly see they BOTH The Certifcate and International GCSE have R and non R papers for most subjects/exam session, and again if you look The Edexcel Certificate R and non R papers are excalty the same as the International GCSE R and Non R paper(which i'm ngl I thought the certificate papers where different to the IGCSE paper, so yeah that's another mistake of mine:/). I think even if its the same exam papers it can ethier go down on record as The Edexcel Certificate and count towards school league tables and towards the eBacc(which you can only do at school..) or you can have it as a just International GCSE. Does say here the certifcate is based on 2009 spec: http://www.edexcel.com/quals/igcse/e...s/default.aspx
    They've made two different pages so even though the papers are the same I think there's a difference, but again CLEARLY both the cert and the iGCSE have got both R and non R papers, so idk where you're going with that the R papers are certificate ones and the non R are the iGCSE which you did...



    Tbh idk about OCR iGCSE's but AQA's IGCSE English Lan&Lit are DEFO only available to private/state schools as it includes assessment.(which you cant do at home).


    Anyways... it doesn't really matter,gcses/igcses/o level,level 2 and 1's they're all the same level and equivalent to each-other(even if people think vocational qualifications, such as btec,nvq,etc arent and too easy and joke,etc) and can get you to different and higher places... this has gone off-topic, no-one answered my question properly.... so hopefully ill make it to be a biologist or ill sty here and rot and cry for all my life and be stuck in another crap job for me



    (sorry for all spelling mistakes/too long to read/confusing,etc... probably need to sort that out if I want to be a biologist!)
    Firstly, does it matter? Seems like rather a banal argument

    Secondly, I believe that Michael Gove gave state schools the option to do full Cambridge IGCSEs (not certificates) from September 2010.
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    (Original post by Calllu-m)
    Firstly, does it matter? Seems like rather a banal argument

    Secondly, I believe that Michael Gove gave state schools the option to do full Cambridge IGCSEs (not certificates) from September 2010.


    Tbf No it doesn't. This "yellowcopter" doesn't know what they're talking about, & I didn't even mean for it to get into an arguement tbh


    And oh okay, fairs there's still the cert versions/cambridge uk alternatives that homeschoolers cant do(like me) and yellowcopter was trying to tell me there is not. But something about for sixth form/college/fe you need goverment approved english(certificates/gcse english) which homeschoolers cant do hence this is why I thought state schools couldn't do IGCSE's(Unless they were Certificate versions) I only heard that state schools are allowed to do Edexcel IGCSE Certificates in January. Idk much about Cambridge tbh. But whatever. If they can do IGCSE's, great. If they can't, damn.


    Anyways no-ones even had made an attempt to answer my question:'( thats all I wanted answering,(then again I did answer abit rudely to the guy so I kinda did start all of this) is my life over(academic wise) because i'm doing everything one year later... Should I go another route....
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    (Original post by elmosandy)
    Tbf No it doesn't yellowcopter doesn't know what tehy're talking about, & I didn;t even mean for it to be an arguement tbh


    And oh okay, fairs there's still the cert versions that homeschoolers cant do(like me) but something about for sixth form/college/fe you need goverment approved english(certificates/gcse english) which homeschoolers cant do I only heard that state schools are allowed to do Edexcel IGCSE Certificates in january. Idk much about Cambridge tbh. But whatever.


    Anyways no-ones even had made an attempt to answer my question:'( thats al I wanted answering, is my life over(academic wise) because i'm doing everything one year later... Should I go another route....
    I'm not even sure what you're asking to be frank with you.
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    (Original post by Calllu-m)
    I'm not even sure what you're asking to be frank with you.


    Im sixteen, haven't done exams this time round, is doing everything a year later(igcses, a levels,etc) going to stop me from having a carrer in Biology? that's all I wanted to know
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    (Original post by Calllu-m)
    I'm not even sure what you're asking to be frank with you.


    Is that clear enough+ Banal? I understand you could have found it boring but how was my post unorginal?
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    (Original post by elmosandy)
    Im sixteen, haven't done exams this time round, is doing everything a year later(igcses, a levels,etc) going to stop me from having a carrer in Biology? that's all I wanted to know
    No, it won't stop you. People get put back a year all the time, for a multitude of reasons. I'm Scottish but went to an English curriculum school. I should have left school in 2012 but left in 2013 due to the different systems, and it's not stopped me doing well yet. You'll be fine.

    (Original post by elmosandy)
    Is that clear enough+ Banal? I understand you could have found it boring but how was my post unorginal?
    You obviously don't understand what banal means, or you misconstrued what I was saying. I was stating that the argument over IGCSEs was banal, not the original post. No need to get snarky.
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    (Original post by Calllu-m)
    No, it won't stop you. People get put back a year all the time, for a multitude of reasons. I'm Scottish but went to an English curriculum school. I should have left school in 2012 but left in 2013 due to the different systems, and it's not stopped me doing well yet. You'll be fine.



    You obviously don't understand what banal means, or you misconstrued what I was saying. I was stating that the argument over IGCSEs was banal, not the original post. No need to get snarky.

    I looked up banal.... it means to lack originality and boring... I wasn;t trying to be snarky, sorry if that came across that way... and thankyou
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    (Original post by elmosandy)
    I looked up banal.... it means to lack originality and boring... I wasn;t trying to be snarky, sorry if that came across that way... and thankyou
    Yes and the argument over IGCSEs and state school was boring, not your original post. If you want to succeed just work hard, do well in your A levels and you'll be fine
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    (Original post by Calllu-m)
    Yes and the argument over IGCSEs and state school was boring, not your original post. If you want to succeed just work hard, do well in your A levels and you'll be fine


    Yep ik.. thanks!
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    (Original post by Sulfur)
    Ok dear.



    Idk if my other quote/reply post got sent but yeah sorry for answering rudely... tbh it doesn't matter
 
 
 
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