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    I think you should go where ever you want to go. It's you who will have to deal with the consequences.
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    (Original post by SerLorasTyrell)
    You're doing politics and history, I doubt it matters


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    The study of the whole organisation of society, its normative authority and conceptual structure is hardly incidental to human life. If you think equipping yourself with the instrumental rationality and techniques to satisfy the pre-given market function of a company is necessarily and in all cases superior to social reflection and change, then I can't take you seriously. To respond to the possible substance behind the snobbery: as in any subjects, the quality and specialism of faculties varies across universities.
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    But Sussex's history is a bit rickety. They do no British history earlier than early modern and no foreign history before the French Revolution.

    There is the grudge match for best historical research in the city of Oxford. Brookes won in 2002, Oxford in 2008 and it is all to play for, this year.
    I have literally no knowledge of the history department, so will give you the benefit of the doubt; although pre-modern British history hardly takes my interest, personally.
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    (Original post by Cameron10)
    Yeah this is true, unless I am being petty about it of course, but as a guy with Thactherite/libertarian leanings, I just wonder whether or not, especially with the lecturers, I will be able to study things that interest me and my views.

    I have nothing against the left wing culture, don't get me wrong, it's just a question of comfort.
    There will always be enough space within an undergraduate degree, as widely cast as it is, for you to satisfy your interests. The political composition of your cohort would probably be the bigger issue; debating a marginal point in seminars. That said, I have never ever seen anyone plausibly justify libertarianism, so maybe (hopefully) your politics won't stick.
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    (Original post by Cameron10)

    Is it bad that despite being someone who is good academically, I want to go to a university where it's practice for working life, rather than pure prestige?

    There are places that are like that but more prestigious than Oxford Brookes. City ones like Manchester (where I'm going), Sheffield (really good for politics), UEA (really diverse and liberal which is nice, big LGBT community). It's not just Oxford, Cambridge, Durham, Warwick which are good. Try a city uni which is good for politics but not so snobby!
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    "it doesn't matter where you go, it's what you do there that matters to employers"


    This. Oh and experience too


    Load of rubbish.
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    (Original post by Cameron10)
    Yeah this is true, unless I am being petty about it of course, but as a guy with Thactherite/libertarian leanings, I just wonder whether or not, especially with the lecturers, I will be able to study things that interest me and my views.

    I have nothing against the left wing culture, don't get me wrong, it's just a question of comfort.
    Study abroad in Mississippi or Texas (stay away from Austin those darn lefties are there too!).

    But in all seriousness you can shape your degree around what you want, doing politics and history will let you pick many of your own core and free elective modules. So don't worry if some left-wing people are going to guillotine you and take away your monocle. If you're a Thatcherite, you'd best hope you have a really really old upper middle class lecturer.
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    (Original post by TolerantBeing)
    Load of rubbish.


    Don't see how experience would be a load of rubbish.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Don't see how experience would be a load of rubbish.


    Personal experience doesn't tend to count for anything. One person having one experience, can't really apply that to others.
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    (Original post by TolerantBeing)
    Personal experience doesn't tend to count for anything. One person having one experience, can't really apply that to others.
    Personal experience? I don't know what you're talking about, I meant work experience for the OP would probably put her in an advantage over some one who had no experience at all.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Don't see how experience would be a load of rubbish.
    For the vast majority of intentions, experience is very important. That doesn't mean the repute of your university, or more significantly, the quality of your education and cohort, are somehow incidental or secondary.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Personal experience? I don't know what you're talking about, I meant work experience for the OP would probably put her in an advantage over some one who had no experience at all.

    Oh I thought you meant you were talking from personal experience with employers.


    But I think it's unfair to say that quality of institution is not important when so many on here have really strived to go to such places.
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    (Original post by SmaugTheTerrible)
    Yes you have.
    Thank you for that fine contribution.
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    (Original post by Cameron10)
    I had the choice of Kent or Brookes to do Politics and History and I chose Oxford Brookes in the end, mainly because of it's location, the fact that it wasn't in the middle of nowhere, had a good emphasis on transferable skills to the workplace, for instance the history course gives me a chance to go on a placement at a school/museum etc, while Sussex and Kent don't. and it was near all the major cities in the country.

    For me having experience is crucial more than good academic qualifications. Which is funny considering I got A*AB at A level.

    But a part of me feels like I should go to somewhere really prestigious, so that my good grades worked for something, but I had a very specific choice of university in mind, i.e had to be near London, not to have too much emphasis on exams, and good work experience opportunities.

    So in that respect, it only left Brookes, Kent and Sussex to compete

    Sussex currently has vacancies for Politics and History am I am tempted, the course looks better too, but the university seems to have a strong left wing political culture, which might make me feel uncomfortable given my views. Plus it doesn't have the work-based emphasis like Brookes and isn't near all the major cities, just London.

    I just feel like because I'm going to an ex-poly I am selling myself short, but another part of me just tells me to grow up, and it doesn't matter where you go, it's what you do there that matters to employers. My best mate got A*A*A for A level and he is going to Swansea, again like my course asking for BBC.

    Is it bad that despite being someone who is good academically, I want to go to a university where it's practice for working life, rather than pure prestige?
    Personally, I would drop out and re-apply to a much better university like Edinburgh or Bimingham or UCL. In today's fierce graduate job market, the reputation of the university matters a lot. Brookes is one of the best ex-polys, but already you rule yourself out of many top professions by going there, and that will matter if you decide to change careers further down the line.

    Feel free to ask anything else, I am an old timer with BSc from Nottingham, MSc from Birkbeck, and now doing MSc at UCL.
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    (Original post by Cameron10)
    Thank you for that fine contribution.
    haha thanks. Let me elaborate. Most Universities have a good social aspect. In the grand scheme of things you will end up feeling at home (for the most part) whether you go to an ex-poly or russell group.

    The part that matters is the reputation, often far more than people on TSR give it credit. You're grades are really good, good enough to get into a top university so it is beyond me why you would choose an ex-poly.

    Unless there is an overwhelming aspect of said ex-poly that you like such as the course or the societies.
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    I did my ba at a redbrick uni and ma at an ex poly. Both unis were similar in terms of challenge of course and style of learning. There really wasn't much in it to be honest.
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    (Original post by SmaugTheTerrible)
    haha thanks. Let me elaborate. Most Universities have a good social aspect. In the grand scheme of things you will end up feeling at home (for the most part) whether you go to an ex-poly or russell group.

    The part that matters is the reputation, often far more than people on TSR give it credit. You're grades are really good, good enough to get into a top university so it is beyond me why you would choose an ex-poly.

    Unless there is an overwhelming aspect of said ex-poly that you like such as the course or the societies.
    That couldn't be further from the truth; people on this forum think that university reputation linearly determines career outcomes. The effect is far milder.
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    haha thanks. Let me elaborate. Most Universities have a good social aspect. In the grand scheme of things you will end up feeling at home (for the most part) whether you go to an ex-poly or russell group.

    The part that matters is the reputation, often far more than people on TSR give it credit. You're grades are really good, good enough to get into a top university so it is beyond me why you would choose an ex-poly.

    Unless there is an overwhelming aspect of said ex-poly that you like such as the course or the societies.
    I wouldn't saw overwhelming. Just benefical. Oxford is good for location and work experience opportunities, more than other universities.
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    (Original post by Cameron10)
    I had the choice of Kent or Brookes to do Politics and History and I chose Oxford Brookes in the end, mainly because of it's location, the fact that it wasn't in the middle of nowhere, had a good emphasis on transferable skills to the workplace, for instance the history course gives me a chance to go on a placement at a school/museum etc, while Sussex and Kent don't. and it was near all the major cities in the country.

    For me having experience is crucial more than good academic qualifications. Which is funny considering I got A*AB at A level.

    But a part of me feels like I should go to somewhere really prestigious, so that my good grades worked for something, but I had a very specific choice of university in mind, i.e had to be near London, not to have too much emphasis on exams, and good work experience opportunities.

    So in that respect, it only left Brookes, Kent and Sussex to compete

    Sussex currently has vacancies for Politics and History am I am tempted, the course looks better too, but the university seems to have a strong left wing political culture, which might make me feel uncomfortable given my views. Plus it doesn't have the work-based emphasis like Brookes and isn't near all the major cities, just London.

    I just feel like because I'm going to an ex-poly I am selling myself short, but another part of me just tells me to grow up, and it doesn't matter where you go, it's what you do there that matters to employers. My best mate got A*A*A for A level and he is going to Swansea, again like my course asking for BBC.

    Is it bad that despite being someone who is good academically, I want to go to a university where it's practice for working life, rather than pure prestige?
    You sound like a pretentious git so Oxford Brookes is perfect for you; full of pretentious gits who weren't smart enough for Oxford but still think they're worthy so go to the nearby polytechnic so they can brag about 'studying in Oxford' to people.

    Good luck .
 
 
 
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