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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Do you not go on holiday abroad anywhere then? Or drive? Or use electrical devices? They're all captain massives, more so probably than this.
Or not eat any exotic foods for that matter
Did you notice the emissions of that rocket
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I want to keep my tootsies firmly planted on earth :sadnod: I'm very against space travel.
How come?

Do you mean personally or just generally apposed to it?
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(Original post by ShotsFired-9941)
Did you notice the emissions of that rocket
It all depends what's in there. What comes out of the back of matters just as much as how much. S-II on Saturn V just chucks out a load of water, looks bad but that's all it is.
It's also about total burn time, it may, say, chuck out 1kg of carbon per second, but if it only burns for 10 seconds it's not as bad as something that chucks out, say, 100g per second and burns for half an hour.
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It all depends what's in there. What comes out of the back of matters just as much as how much. S-II on Saturn V just chucks out a load of water, looks bad but that's all it is.
It's also about total burn time, it may, say, chuck out 1kg of carbon per second, but if it only burns for 10 seconds it's not as bad as something that chucks out, say, 100g per second and burns for half an hour.
So it's not any badder than sitting on Boeing...?
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(Original post by ShotsFired-9941)
So it's not any badder than sitting on Boeing...?
Don't have all the figures, but I wouldn't be surprised. It's probably better for the environment than owning you own car.
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Don't have all the figures, but I wouldn't be surprised. It's probably better for the environment than owning you own car.
I don't own a car but I get your point
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(Original post by Queen Cersei)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29861259

I don't feel like the Virgin Galatic exploding is a particularly good sign for space tourism. Personally I wouldn't even want to go into space (mainly because I suffer from hideous travel sickness and watched Gravity the other day).

How does everyone else feel about space tourism? Would you want to go into space?
Sounds worse than it is when you look at the number of flights and disasters.

If your worried about space then there are far more concerning things. Looking at the missions to Mars in 2018 and 2023 for example, the first will expose a pilot and an old couple to enough radiation to essentially guarantee cancer but that's why they want an old couple and to sling shot around Mars and back might be worth it to a lot of people. The second mission Is a one way trip to Mars to live there, except you can never go outside without a suit.. Ever... 200,000 people applied.

I myself.. If id spent the night on a space hotel above the earth (the plan for a number of companies) then it would probably be such an incredible experience that I could die happy.

And this is before we get to space mining which could be revolutionary.
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(Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
How come?

Do you mean personally or just generally apposed to it?
To interject, this is a person who would ban technology and have us living a simple farm type life.

She's a restoration.
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If there was a manned mission to Mars and I was suitable, I'd definitely go, even if it meant not coming back. But not really 'space tourism'- it's going to space for the sake of going to space- not for research or science or the long term feasibility of space travel.
I agree to an extent - space tourism is a highly materialistic part of the space industry. However, it's providing the pressure for engineers to pioneer the future of space travel. It increases demand for a single-stage-to-orbit (SSTO) vessel, and a highly reliable one at that, if you're to put civilians in it. These developments will supplement the current research-based ones like the ISS. I don't think it's any harm
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
It's not going to remain $250,000 for ever, the price will naturally come down as more players enter the game and the technology matures.
In 1939 a transatlantic plane ticket would cost you almost $7000 in today's money (and take 30 hours)
In 1952, London to Johannesburg would cost almost £5,000 one way, almost £9000 return (again, both in today's money). You can do the same flight now for £1000 return direct, or just over £500 going via Abu-Dhabi
I know, but it still takes a long time to save money.
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I know, but it still takes a long time to save money.
Then additionally consider how much faster wages go up vs inflation and then those old prices are working out more like £20,000 return
I wouldn't be surprised if space tourism prices fall event faster than that, I wouldn't be at all surprised if, by the time we die, it's cheap enough that it's fairly standard for the middle class to leave the planet, much like I expect holidays abroad to be commonplace for the working class.
And that's if we take current life expectancy, not accounting for the fact that we might have rather long lives if some rumours turn out to be legit.
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Then additionally consider how much faster wages go up vs inflation and then those old prices are working out more like £20,000 return
I wouldn't be surprised if space tourism prices fall event faster than that, I wouldn't be at all surprised if, by the time we die, it's cheap enough that it's fairly standard for the middle class to leave the planet, much like I expect holidays abroad to be commonplace for the working class.
And that's if we take current life expectancy, not accounting for the fact that we might have rather long lives if some rumours turn out to be legit.
I can't afford to go abroad.
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Sounds worse than it is when you look at the number of flights and disasters.

If your worried about space then there are far more concerning things. Looking at the missions to Mars in 2018 and 2023 for example, the first will expose a pilot and an old couple to enough radiation to essentially guarantee cancer but that's why they want an old couple and to sling shot around Mars and back might be worth it to a lot of people. The second mission Is a one way trip to Mars to live there, except you can never go outside without a suit.. Ever... 200,000 people applied.

I myself.. If id spent the night on a space hotel above the earth (the plan for a number of companies) then it would probably be such an incredible experience that I could die happy.

And this is before we get to space mining which could be revolutionary.
200000 people?! Holy moly, don't think I'd be up for the one way mission there, especially after reading 'The Martian' by Andy Weir.

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I can't afford to go abroad.
A holiday abroad can be done for a couple of hundred quid now, there are few that can't do so now if they really wanted to, and the ranges for a similar price will just increase as time goes on.
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A holiday abroad can be done for a couple of hundred quid now, there are few that can't do so now if they really wanted to, and the ranges for a similar price will just increase as time goes on.
I know. But you'd be surprised how many people don't have that much money.
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Going into space is definitely a dream of mine
They'll get the tech right eventually..
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I know. But you'd be surprised how many people don't have that much money.
And how many of those people could make small cuts and save a pound a week? Just £1 per week and after a few years it is there. Obviously within reason, if you really want something you will find a way to get it. It does assume passport ownership, which would be adding almost £100 more otherwise, but even so, the point still stands; where there's a will there's a way.
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200000 people?! Holy moly, don't think I'd be up for the one way mission there, especially after reading 'The Martian' by Andy Weir.

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Yup, I'd be more worried about never being able to breathe outside personally.

The real big space news is that Kepler found 3000 planets and enough evidence for us to calculate that as many as 40bn rocky planets are in the habitable zone of stars. We have 3 space telescopes going up in 2017 and 2018 that may well find planets small enough that they may be habitated.
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And how many of those people could make small cuts and save a pound a week? Just £1 per week and after a few years it is there. Obviously within reason, if you really want something you will find a way to get it. It does assume passport ownership, which would be adding almost £100 more otherwise, but even so, the point still stands; where there's a will there's a way.
I've been saving for 4 years.
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Haha you both have a lot more faith in it than me! What if the first voyage turns out to be another titanic?!
Any idea how many boats and planes have sunk or crashed over the years? Hundreds of thousands. Bet you wouldn't think twice about getting on a car ferry or flying off to Europe. And cars... Good god, hundreds of millions of cars have crashed.

This is a set back, but no more than that. Something of this complexity is always going to take time to develop.
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