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    (Original post by Yua)
    tbh i have a friend who always chats **** and i think it's just the way you carry yourself; it can't be helped
    'it's just the way you carry yourself' please explain?

    I do not wanto to chat chat *******s forever it is not very good I have lost many friends and made some false ones as a result
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    'it's just the way you carry yourself' please explain?

    I do not wanto to chat chat *******s forever it is not very good I have lost many friends and made some false ones as a result
    just be yourself and you'll be ok
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    as an example, I pulled out the statistic than 20-30% of men in this country are FA incels
    I think it might seem like you talk more **** than you actually do because you use so much weird jargon like this. I looked it up and this thread is the third result, some weird **** from BB.com is the first and second. Nowhere is it actually defined. I kind of assume you are talking **** because I have absolutely no idea what it means and it's obviously some pick up artist thing (I'm guessing it just means "bad", although at first glance I thought you were talking about terrorists or something).

    What I'm trying to say is, you can't use jargon as a replacement for sentences that actually make sense. Your catchphrase about attraction being amoral is also an example of this because that doesn't mean anything.
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    I think it might seem like you talk more **** than you actually do because you use so much weird jargon like this. I looked it up and this thread is the third result, some weird **** from BB.com is the first and second. Nowhere is it actually defined. I kind of assume you are talking **** because I have absolutely no idea what it means and it's obviously some pick up artist thing (I'm guessing it just means "bad", although at first glance I thought you were talking about terrorists or something).

    What I'm trying to say is, you can't use jargon as a replacement for sentences that actually make sense. Your catchphrase about attraction being amoral is also an example of this because that doesn't mean anything.
    I'm worried by the fact Rick is now Googleable

    Beta/Omega-passive, insecure, unattractive, unsuccessful in life, often fat or otherwise physically unappealing, virgin of involuntary loser variety (see Incel), altogether opposite of 'alpha'. Omega can be used either as correct term for loser really, or dark horse; Beta is actually average Joe, and can be dark horse. Alpha in some circles simply means *******.

    Moreover the definition of Alpha by BB Misc and by the Manosphere* is different, the Manosphere one is more mature and sophisticated for a self-made man who commands respect and attention from both men and women, whereas the BB Misc Alpha is simply the guy who is in some way hot enough to **** endless amounts of hot girls.

    As I learned over the course of my Riku account in 2013, Alpha/Beta is essentially a misogynist categorisation that predicates itself on the belief that passivity, insecurity and vulnerability, as feminine traits, are unattractive and inferior to their 'masculine' counterparts-active, confident, stoic. However, even those of a feminist disposition agree with it once the repulsion to said traits is due to their child-like, victim-mentality nature rather than being 'feminine'.

    FA-Forever Alone, i.e. 'never gonna have a gf I am such a loser this makes me so sad :'('. On rare occasions a girl can be FA, however this is indeed rare as FA typically goes along Nice Guy** entitlement complex, and women have not been socialised to expect rewards for chivalry, chivalry caters towards them.

    Incel-abbreviation, PUA term for involuntary celibate i.e. unattractive virgin.

    'Attraction is amoral'-This is more deeply thought out by r/theredpill and the Manosphere than the BB Misc and original PUAs. It essentially relies, perhaps falsely, on the science of evolutionary psychology (often abbreviated by myself and others to 'evo-psych'.

    The theory is that men are naturally polygamous and desire the most fertile female with greatest aesthetics, optimal waist-hip ratio and maternal traits for potential offspring. Equally women are naturally hypergamous and seek out the optimal mate for first healthiest/fittest genes for their offspring, afterwards security of themselves and their offspring. In a modern/urban environment, this translates into both emotional and financial security for a family, after finding the most physically fit, aesthetic male for sex.


    Since physical attraction and the mating instinct is a biological prerogative dominated primarily by the amygdala and primitive limbic brain, it is not a social construct, whereas morality is a social construct designed by more advanced civilisations, and in particular religion, in order to live harmoniously and with least violence among other intellectually advanced predators of the same species (homo sapiens of course). Thus, attraction is amoral. In practical terms this translates into accepting the natural order, that if a male comes along with higher value (aesthetics/health and fitness/social proof/finances/other attractive character traits demonstrating value and potential for security), then it is foolish to try and discuss how it is immoral for a woman to be more attracted to a higher-value, more attractive rival Alpha male despite having built a long-term social/intellectual/emotional (read: 'civilised) attachment bond with their partner.

    tl;dr it is a way of saying that there is no point whining if my gf leaves me for a hotter, richer guy, or trying to rationalise how she could be so heartless/selfish/shallow etc. because the lady wants the manliest man and, unless exercising higher self-control over awareness of the limbic vs. frontal/parietal lobes like a RedPill woman, cannot help her actions!

    Hope this helps!

    *In case you do not spend enough the on the Internet to know about this, the Manosphere is another term for the darker side of the Men's Rights Movement, largely anti-feminist or at least against the hypocrisies of third wave feminism. The Manosphere contains both PUA forums and anti-feminist debate sites such as A Voice for Men. Lately the PUA forums have got both very nuanced, e.g. The Rational Male, and dark e.g. r/theredpill on Reddit which is where a lot of my fears are sourced.

    **See Robert R. Glover's 'No More Mr. Nice Guy' for a breakdown on the pitfalls of those with Nice Guy Syndrome.
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    (Original post by Yua)
    just be yourself and you'll be ok
    don't you mean 'be the awesome idealised version of yourself'?
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    This is not just a TSR thing, I remember a guy in my Year 9 class saying, I chat a lot of *******s. It's funny because I have lots of professionals trying to convince me I am smart but I am not, or I would not profusely chat tripe on a regular basis. However, the fact I chatted *******s when 14 suggests this is not just limited to relationships. :/
    I have this problem funnily enough. I like to think that I am rather intelligent intellectually, but I often say things and express opinions without thinking about them or considering them, which can lead to me changing my mind or saying things that sound uneducated or with no evidence. I've begun to consider what I say and only get involved in debates where I can give some back up to the points that I make. It might be good for you to do the same Saying stupid things doesn't mean you're stupid, it just means you might be too hasty to express yourself!
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    I'm worried by the fact Riku is now Googleable

    beta/omega-passive, insecure, unattractive, often fat, virgin of loser variety, opposite of 'alpha'. Omega can be used either as correct term for loser really, or dark horse; beta is actually average Joe, and can be dark horse. Alpha in some circles simply means *******. The definition of Alpha by BB Misc and by the Manosphere* is different, the Manosphere one is more mature and sophisticated for a self-made man who commands respect and attention from both men and women, whereas the BB Misc Alpha is simply the guy who is in some way hot enough to **** endless amounts of hot girls.
    I don't think either definition of "alpha male" is actually mature and sophisticated, since human social structures are not organised that way


    FA-Forever Alone, i.e. 'never gonna have a gf I am such a loser this makes me so sad :'('. On rare occasions a girl can be FA however this is indeed rare and FA typically goes along Nice Guy entitlement complex (see Robert R. Glover's 'No More Mr. Nice Guy' for a breakdown on the pitfalls of those with Nice Guy Syndrome).

    Incel-abbreviation, PUA term for involuntary celibate i.e. unattractive virgin.

    Hope this helps!
    OK.

    *In case you do not spend enough the on the Internet to know about this, the Manosphere is another term for the darker side of the Men's Rights Movement, largely anti-feminist or at least against the hypocrisies of third wave feminism. The Manosphere contains both PUA forums and anti-feminist debate sites such as A Voice for Men. Lately the PUA forums have got both very nuanced, e.g. The Rational Male, and dark e.g. r/theredpill on Reddit which is where a lot of my fears are sourced.
    I think it's also where a lot of your **** talking habits are sourced. We have very different ideas of nuance if that is how you are describing PUA forums. I also have a very different idea of rationality from anything I've ever had the misfortune to see posted on The Rational Male. I'm more aware of this internet stuff than you might think, but I also can't relate to just about anything in this post.
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    This is not just a TSR thing, I remember a guy in my Year 9 class saying, I chat a lot of *******s. It's funny because I have lots of professionals trying to convince me I am smart but I am not, or I would not profusely chat tripe on a regular basis. However, the fact I chatted *******s when 14 suggests this is not just limited to relationships. :/
    Why are there so many asterisks? :lolwut:

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    (Original post by SmashConcept)
    I don't think either definition of "alpha male" is actually mature and sophisticated, since human social structures are not organised that way



    OK.


    I think it's also where a lot of your **** talking habits are sourced. We have very different ideas of nuance if that is how you are describing PUA forums. I also have a very different idea of rationality from anything I've ever had the misfortune to see posted on The Rational Male. I'm more aware of this internet stuff than you might think, but I also can't relate to just about anything in this post.

    see you, keep applying humanistic values to a primal response. This does not work for the vast majority of individuals placed in a sexual scenario, of either gender. We cannot compare the reactions in the public and professional spheres to the private and sexual spheres, considering we are largely socially conditioned to be civilised and exercise self-control over our primitive instincts. Nor does it work when the fight-or-flight response has been sufficiently activated from a high-stress situation. See Attraction is Amoral*

    Perhaps. I wouldn't have become a greater degree depressed and paranoid around social situations if it painted the rosiest picture of humanity, y'know...

    *See my edit for explanation of attraction is amoral. This also covers the basic evo-psych behind Alpha ****s Beta Bucks.
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    Why are there so many asterisks? :lolwut:

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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    see you, keep applying humanistic values to a primal response. This does not work for the vast majority of individuals placed in a sexual scenario, of either gender. Nor does it work when the fight-or-flight response has been sufficiently activated from a high-stress situation. See Attraction is Amoral*

    Perhaps. I wouldn't have become a greater degree depressed and paranoid around social situations if it painted the rosiest picture of humanity, y'know...

    *See my edit for explanation of attraction is amoral. This also covers the basic evo-psych behind Alpha ****s Beta Bucks.
    have you considered that humans are not dogs or chimps and this pseudo-science doesn't actually apply?


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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    I'm trying to say ---- but dat swear filter
    Ah kk. I was wondering what swear word could be that long. It doesn't seem that bad for swear filter but oh well.

    (^ I'd edit that of of the original post so you don't get carded. :mmm:)

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    have you considered that humans are not dogs or chimps and this pseudo-science doesn't actually apply?


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    What about wolfies? :animal:
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    (Original post by Odd socks)
    have you considered that humans are not dogs or chimps and this pseudo-science doesn't actually apply?


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    Yes of course, the Enlightenment was all about this. However this only does not apply if such human gains greater pleasure and security from working from the frontal/parietal lobes rather than the limbic brain, can recognise when the limbic brain is activated and has heightened self-awareness and self-control to choose the path of most resistance. This is part of what r/theredpill teaches-bearing in mind that the majority of its flock are at rock bottom for, in most circumstances, having little power over their natural instincts.

    Of course this discussion of the limbic brain is still only amateur pop-psychology and I won't profess to know everything Socky, still learning

    source: Dr. Steve Peters, 'The Chimp Paradox'. Grossly simplified by Peters but the limbic brain is the very emotional 'Chimp' in us.
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    What about wolfies? :animal:
    Wolfie's can do whatever they want (including, it seems, ride horses)


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    Wolfie's can do whatever they want (including, it seems, ride horses)


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    Correct answer!

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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    Stack overflow
    Oh, Christ; the resident paranoid AI has gone rogue again. Can we not establish a dedicated sub-forum for this kind of pseudo-intellectual w**k?
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    Yes of course, the Enlightenment was all about this. However this only does not apply if such human gains greater pleasure and security from working from the frontal/parietal lobes rather than the limbic brain, can recognise when the limbic brain is activated and has heightened self-awareness and self-control to choose the path of most resistance. This is part of what r/theredpill teaches-bearing in mind that the majority of its flock are at rock bottom for, in most circumstances, having little power over their natural instincts.

    Of course this discussion of the limbic brain is still only amateur pop-psychology and I won't profess to know everything Socky, still learning

    source: Dr. Steve Peters, 'The Chimp Paradox'. Grossly simplified by Peters but the limbic brain is the very emotional 'Chimp' in us.
    I'll be honest, you use a lot of jargon and stuff and it can be difficult to read.

    but I feel like you don't give everyone enough credit, you assume we're all slaves to our hormones and have no thought processes at all. like your point about 'hypergamy'. you act like women have to follow your rules on how your pseudo science says they should act and it's actually rather insulting that you imply we're all callous *****es who will instantly drop a man as soon as someone you consider 'better' comes along. like God forbid we're actually capable of liking someone for something other then the number of mammoths they could kill


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    Just stop talking.

    I have a similar problem, every time I open my mouth I piss people off. :sad:
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    Just stop talking.

    I have a similar problem, every time I open my mouth I piss people off. :sad:
    True, you'd make a good couple.
 
 
 
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