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Original post by King Boo
The fall in league tables is because of the student protests, and a load of ultra left wingers raged against the chancellor of the uni and wanted to take their anger out on him by moaning about how the uni sucks to the surveys. (The reasons behind it in short were because the uni isn't run as left wing and socialist as they would like)
I can't recommend sussex enough. Brighton is amazing, the uni lectures are great. The campus is lovely, and brighton nightlife is buzzing.
The only thing in your case id say, is go for sussex. I know people who went to uni near where they live, and their parents harp on at them all the time about going home. They go home a lot more, and resultantly dont tend to be as involved with the other people there. 3 hours isn't too bad. It takes me about 2 and a half to get home. Go for sussex man, surrey sucks
I can't recommend sussex enough. Brighton is amazing, the uni lectures are great. The campus is lovely, and brighton nightlife is buzzing.
The only thing in your case id say, is go for sussex. I know people who went to uni near where they live, and their parents harp on at them all the time about going home. They go home a lot more, and resultantly dont tend to be as involved with the other people there. 3 hours isn't too bad. It takes me about 2 and a half to get home. Go for sussex man, surrey sucks
Thanks a lot
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Well I went to visit Surrey yesterday and well simply put something didn't click in the same way that Sussex did.
Sussex will be my firm choice, thanks for everyone's replies.
Sussex will be my firm choice, thanks for everyone's replies.
Original post by Antimatter
Hi there,
Not sure if this is too late but I'll try to help as much as I can (graduated last summer in physics at Sussex)
I'm obviously biased and think Sussex is the bees knees and it's mostly because the department is so kind and caring and supportive. All the lecturers, technicians, office staff etc really go out of their way to help you out and lecturers doors are usually open so you can just walk in and ask for help/advice/have a cry if you need to (I've done this many times!)
I'll respond to your Surrey plus points here:
Timing of the placement year (between the 2nd and 3rd years)
We do the research placement which is every summer and you get paid for it and I believe you can do a placement year but not sure on this...
Surrey seems to have better business links so job prospects after I finish uni seems better
We have really high employability and we are in the same SEPNet consortium and so all internships are offered to Sussex and Surrey students...
30 mins by train from home (good/bad ?)
I can't change that but for me being further away from home made me more independent...
Has Jim Al-Khalili as a potential lecturer
Yes but probably for only one course so don't use that as your sole reason...
Guildford is where I would be going for a night out (good/bad ?)
I'd say bad because I like how Brighton has so much going on for people who like all different stuff - rap, club music, indie music, pubs, trance, art, poetry... You name it, it's in Brighton!
Closest town and supermarket within walking distance
Only in your first year - you'll probably live along Lewes Road after that and there's a Sainsburys there and you can walk into town. Also there is a (small) Co-Op on campus and a weekly market and a veg box scheme!
Feel free to ask me any more Qs!
Not sure if this is too late but I'll try to help as much as I can (graduated last summer in physics at Sussex)
I'm obviously biased and think Sussex is the bees knees and it's mostly because the department is so kind and caring and supportive. All the lecturers, technicians, office staff etc really go out of their way to help you out and lecturers doors are usually open so you can just walk in and ask for help/advice/have a cry if you need to (I've done this many times!)
I'll respond to your Surrey plus points here:
Timing of the placement year (between the 2nd and 3rd years)
We do the research placement which is every summer and you get paid for it and I believe you can do a placement year but not sure on this...
Surrey seems to have better business links so job prospects after I finish uni seems better
We have really high employability and we are in the same SEPNet consortium and so all internships are offered to Sussex and Surrey students...
30 mins by train from home (good/bad ?)
I can't change that but for me being further away from home made me more independent...
Has Jim Al-Khalili as a potential lecturer
Yes but probably for only one course so don't use that as your sole reason...
Guildford is where I would be going for a night out (good/bad ?)
I'd say bad because I like how Brighton has so much going on for people who like all different stuff - rap, club music, indie music, pubs, trance, art, poetry... You name it, it's in Brighton!
Closest town and supermarket within walking distance
Only in your first year - you'll probably live along Lewes Road after that and there's a Sainsburys there and you can walk into town. Also there is a (small) Co-Op on campus and a weekly market and a veg box scheme!
Feel free to ask me any more Qs!
Hi, sorry this is more than a couple of hours like I promised xD.
Anyway, I have made my final decision (Sussex!) but wanted to check a couple of things! (If you don't know them then don't worry
)(Physics course Q's):
For the masters year, is there a reduced fee or a small salary or anything?
If I wanted to do a placement year (most uni's do bsc with a year in industry or similar) is there that available?
(Accommodation (1st year on campus) Q's
Is there an ethernet cable in most rooms or is it all wifi (I like my online gaming :P) ?
Do most people cook for themselves or is it a mix of people cooking for everyone or does it depend on the people?
The answer to these questions won't change my choice but I am quite nervous about going to uni and I need as much data and facts as I can get my hands on xD
These may or may not be of help but i hope it does. My brother goes Sussex Uni and he loves it. He is studying English and he is getting on really well. He likes how easy it is to get around (24 hour buses I believe) and train station to get home. How the uni in his first year helped people get introduced to each other and make friends. The uni got him involved in a local school tutoring scheme and he is getting paid for it, which helps pay for the bills.
Obviously, I have no experience of any of these universities but my brother does rate Sussex very highly.
(Hope this helps )
Obviously, I have no experience of any of these universities but my brother does rate Sussex very highly.
(Hope this helps
)Original post by AsLevelStudent
These may or may not be of help but i hope it does. My brother goes Sussex Uni and he loves it. He is studying English and he is getting on really well. He likes how easy it is to get around (24 hour buses I believe) and train station to get home. How the uni in his first year helped people get introduced to each other and make friends. The uni got him involved in a local school tutoring scheme and he is getting paid for it, which helps pay for the bills.
Obviously, I have no experience of any of these universities but my brother does rate Sussex very highly.
(Hope this helps )
Obviously, I have no experience of any of these universities but my brother does rate Sussex very highly.
(Hope this helps
)Thanks
Original post by Dancatpro
Hi, sorry this is more than a couple of hours like I promised xD.
Anyway, I have made my final decision (Sussex!) but wanted to check a couple of things! (If you don't know them then don't worry )
(Physics course Q's):
For the masters year, is there a reduced fee or a small salary or anything?
If I wanted to do a placement year (most uni's do bsc with a year in industry or similar) is there that available?
(Accommodation (1st year on campus) Q's
Is there an ethernet cable in most rooms or is it all wifi (I like my online gaming :P) ?
Do most people cook for themselves or is it a mix of people cooking for everyone or does it depend on the people?
The answer to these questions won't change my choice but I am quite nervous about going to uni and I need as much data and facts as I can get my hands on xD
Anyway, I have made my final decision (Sussex!) but wanted to check a couple of things! (If you don't know them then don't worry
)(Physics course Q's):
For the masters year, is there a reduced fee or a small salary or anything?
If I wanted to do a placement year (most uni's do bsc with a year in industry or similar) is there that available?
(Accommodation (1st year on campus) Q's
Is there an ethernet cable in most rooms or is it all wifi (I like my online gaming :P) ?
Do most people cook for themselves or is it a mix of people cooking for everyone or does it depend on the people?
The answer to these questions won't change my choice but I am quite nervous about going to uni and I need as much data and facts as I can get my hands on xD
No. The fee is the same as the previous three years. And why would you get paid?
I go to Surrey and these are the facts
1. During the summer holidays you are encouraged to go on summer placements. They pay very well and the uni has excellent links.
2. Surrey has top notch employability. One you finish your degree, this is all you'll care about until you have your dream job.
3. Jim Al-Khalili is overrated. Yes, it is awesome to meet him, but you'll get to spend so much time with him and see him around so much outside of lectures that the novelty wears off by your third year. As a first year though you will absolutely love him. He is indeed famous and it is cool to hang around with him, but you will soon see he is just a normal person like you or I.
4. Guildford is designed for students. I've never heard anyone complain that the city lacks a social life o.O But even if it isn't right for you, London and Basingstoke are just a stone's throw away. Alternatively, if you want somewhere quieter, there are plenty of small villages within walking distance of the uni.
5. Surrey is more central. This is important when you are going to interviews for jobs. You don't really want to be travelling many, many hours just because you live on the edge of the country.
6. Surrey's library is open 24/7 and is ridiculously modern. Spread over 5 huge floors it has silent study areas, isolated rooms, group rooms, open areas, food areas, mobile area, computing sections. It has literally everything you could ever want.
7. 24/7 supermarket. Yay food.
8. Really easy to get a part time job at Surrey.
9. Lecturers and students basically work together. Lecturers are seen as friends more than anything.
10. All the main buildings on campus are linked by bridges. So if it's raining or cold or there is a zombie apocalypse, you can get from one room to another without any trouble and you get o enjoy some great views.
11. Part time jobs are everywhere on campus. They typically pay £10-12 an hour, which isn't bad at all.
12. Cheap high quality pizza shop on campus. 'Nuff said.
1. During the summer holidays you are encouraged to go on summer placements. They pay very well and the uni has excellent links.
2. Surrey has top notch employability. One you finish your degree, this is all you'll care about until you have your dream job.
3. Jim Al-Khalili is overrated. Yes, it is awesome to meet him, but you'll get to spend so much time with him and see him around so much outside of lectures that the novelty wears off by your third year. As a first year though you will absolutely love him. He is indeed famous and it is cool to hang around with him, but you will soon see he is just a normal person like you or I.
4. Guildford is designed for students. I've never heard anyone complain that the city lacks a social life o.O But even if it isn't right for you, London and Basingstoke are just a stone's throw away. Alternatively, if you want somewhere quieter, there are plenty of small villages within walking distance of the uni.
5. Surrey is more central. This is important when you are going to interviews for jobs. You don't really want to be travelling many, many hours just because you live on the edge of the country.
6. Surrey's library is open 24/7 and is ridiculously modern. Spread over 5 huge floors it has silent study areas, isolated rooms, group rooms, open areas, food areas, mobile area, computing sections. It has literally everything you could ever want.
7. 24/7 supermarket. Yay food.
8. Really easy to get a part time job at Surrey.
9. Lecturers and students basically work together. Lecturers are seen as friends more than anything.
10. All the main buildings on campus are linked by bridges. So if it's raining or cold or there is a zombie apocalypse, you can get from one room to another without any trouble and you get o enjoy some great views.
11. Part time jobs are everywhere on campus. They typically pay £10-12 an hour, which isn't bad at all.
12. Cheap high quality pizza shop on campus. 'Nuff said.
Original post by Dancatpro
However http://universities.findthebest.co.uk/ suggested there is a higher percentage of people getting a 2:1 or higher at Sussex rather than Surrey
However http://universities.findthebest.co.uk/ suggested there is a higher percentage of people getting a 2:1 or higher at Sussex rather than Surrey
This isn't really a good thing. Employers judge the quality of your degree by how many people obtain it. If you get a high grade and few others do, you're pretty much guaranteed a job. But if you get a high grade and lots of others also get a high grade, not only do you have more competition but employers will be like "wtf, 40% of people from this uni get Firsts. It must be a crap uni that just gives out good grades. Instead I'll employ this dude who has a First from this other uni where only 10% of students get Firsts."
Degree value varies greatly between universities.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
No. The fee is the same as the previous three years. And why would you get paid?
Surrey have a reduced fee for the masters year (and I think you might get paid (depending on where you do it))
Yes, you do get paid. It is typically £13-18 grand for the 11 months.
Original post by Keyhofi
Yes, you do get paid. It is typically £13-18 grand for the 11 months.
No you don't.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
No you don't.
You do at Surrey. Every single person who went on placement in my year got paid (and everyone got a placement). I was on £15k myself.
Original post by Keyhofi
You do at Surrey. Every single person who went on placement in my year got paid (and everyone got a placement). I was on £15k myself.
A Masters year is not a placement.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
A Masters year is not a placement.
Ah, you seem to be confused between an MSci and an MPhys. MPhys is research based rather than classroom taught. You go out and work for a research company somewhere typically in the UK, Europe, America, or Canada for about a year, produce a dissertation on your work, and present it to professionals from all around the world.
You can find out more about it here
http://www.surrey.ac.uk/physics/study/ug/researchyear/
The MPhys year is sandwiched into a normal degree, so you study for four years rather than three. This makes it quite different to the traditional Masters route of gaining a degree and then doing a Masters.
It is the uniqueness of the placement year which makes Surrey so attractive to so many applicants and so employable to companies around the world. Having anything that makes you stand out against other graduates in terms of experience will only be a bonus, and it gives you something to talk about in job interviews. Employers care much more about your work experience than if you got a First from some mildly relevant module course.
Original post by Keyhofi
Ah, you seem to be confused between an MSci and an MPhys. MPhys is research based rather than classroom taught. You go out and work for a research company somewhere typically in the UK, Europe, America, or Canada for about a year, produce a dissertation on your work, and present it to professionals from all around the world.
You can find out more about it here
http://www.surrey.ac.uk/physics/study/ug/researchyear/
The MPhys year is sandwiched into a normal degree, so you study for four years rather than three. This makes it quite different to the traditional Masters route of gaining a degree and then doing a Masters.
It is the uniqueness of the placement year which makes Surrey so attractive to so many applicants and so employable to companies around the world. Having anything that makes you stand out against other graduates in terms of experience will only be a bonus, and it gives you something to talk about in job interviews. Employers care much more about your work experience than if you got a First from some mildly relevant module course.
You can find out more about it here
http://www.surrey.ac.uk/physics/study/ug/researchyear/
The MPhys year is sandwiched into a normal degree, so you study for four years rather than three. This makes it quite different to the traditional Masters route of gaining a degree and then doing a Masters.
It is the uniqueness of the placement year which makes Surrey so attractive to so many applicants and so employable to companies around the world. Having anything that makes you stand out against other graduates in terms of experience will only be a bonus, and it gives you something to talk about in job interviews. Employers care much more about your work experience than if you got a First from some mildly relevant module course.
No. I'm not confused. I don't know about Surrey but I do know about Sussex and I know that you do four years on campus studying and then in your last year you work in one of the research groups as well as completing other taught courses. I know because had I not been ill I would be in my fourth year now and many of my friends are in their fourth year.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
No. I'm not confused. I don't know about Surrey but I do know about Sussex and I know that you do four years on campus studying and then in your last year you work in one of the research groups as well as completing other taught courses. I know because had I not been ill I would be in my fourth year now and many of my friends are in their fourth year.
It seems Surrey and Sussex do it in two very different ways then. And you guys don't get paid at all? Do you at least get reduced student fees? And wait, you work 9-5 as well as completing taught modules, or is it only part-time work?
Original post by Keyhofi
It seems Surrey and Sussex do it in two very different ways then. And you guys don't get paid at all? Do you at least get reduced student fees? And wait, you work 9-5 as well as completing taught modules, or is it only part-time work?
The research part of Surreys appears to unique. Not every MPhys (or undergraduate masters course) is setup this way.
Sussex offer a variant, link below, that has you placed in a research group each summer. They do cover your living costs.
http://m.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/2015/1563/31106#tab-placements
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hello, I am offered Management and Finance MSC sept 2015 at sussex and also business economics at surrey. Can u pls tell me more about department of management and finance at sussex and what their ranking is in the uk. Mike from Nig
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