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    (Original post by SnooFnoo)
    Unsure if you're being sarcastic. But in any case apologies. I simply meant extremists, particularly those who dictate their twisted versions of ideologies
    I'm aware, and you don't have to apologise, it's okay. I just really hate it when the actions of the Nazis are trivialised by comparison with some nasty but relatively harmless by comparison extremists.

    (Original post by Ekemini)
    Ok. Calm down. No need to get heated up. This is what I feel and I may not have done any research but I know there are some ridiculous extremists views out there which true feminists need to tackle so the movement can be taken seriously. Right now their reputation ain't so good.
    I'm not heated up, it's just very frustrating to see a group who killed so many used in such a trivial way. It's disrespectful.

    You need to do your research instead of listening to 12 year old "feminists" on the Internet trying to be edgy.

    I could say that all boys my age are misogynistic because that's all I've seen so far (there are only a few exceptions), but I know that it's silly to say that.
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    (Original post by Ekemini)
    EXACTLY. Or on cases where a woman accuses a man of rape and the feminists support on her but when it turns out that she falsely accused him, they are nowhere to be found. Most of todays feminists ruffle up their feathers on unimportant issues.
    False rape accusations makes up 0.025% of all rape accusations in the UK. The issue is trivial in comparison to actual rape accusations.
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    The more you dig, the less plausible feminism becomes. It's very gratifying to see the women of these forums come to see feminism for what it really is.




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    (Original post by SnooFnoo)
    False rape accusations makes up 0.025% of all rape accusations in the UK. The issue is trivial in comparison to actual rape accusations.
    Even so false rape accusations is a serious thing and should not be ignored because it is apparently taking up a very small percentage in statistics.
    Even so, just because some men rape does not mean all men rape which is the feeling I am starting to get from some people. Sheesh. Everyman is a potential rapist. That's BS. Absolute Hogwash
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    (Original post by Ekemini)
    Even so false rape accusations is a serious thing and should not be ignored because it is apparently taking up a very small percentage in statistics.
    Even so, just because some men rape does not mean all men rape which is the feeling I am starting to get from some people. Sheesh. Everyman is a potential rapist. That's BS. Absolute Hogwash
    oh dear lord. Please research feminism and gender inequality and stop reading tumblr.

    85000 women get raped a year.

    110 men have been accused of rape falsely in the last 5 years.

    Now which is the more pressing issue?
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    (Original post by All_TheCyanide)
    "Feminazis" do you realise how ridiculous that word is and offensive to the millions who died as a result of the REAL Nazis? Feminists haven't killed millions. Stop equating a few stupid extremists to a horrendous group who murdered millions.
    It is notable that the term "feminazi" was popularised by the American conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh; he called them that because they were pro-abortion and he believed that abortion is murder so... yeah.

    With this in mind, if you come across somebody who's pro-abortion and yet uses the term, be sure to let them know.
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    Women can decide for themselves. Thank you.
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    Why can't people spell woman?

    One woman, two women. A woman, many women. Man, men. Woman, women. Jesus what atrocious English teachers have we had? :indiff:

    If you haven't researched it then go ahead and do it, as others said.

    All sexism is inherent to sex (gender) being used as the primary aspect of a given human. Feminism obviously attempted and arguably succeeded to address some very obvious issues concerning women, and the men's clubs or whatever they're called have also cropped to to do the same for men who have started admitting they don't actually like their big father and don't appreciate being treated as "men".

    Passively accepting the benefits of being treated as a man or woman, such as being given more authority, or being spared in war (lol) also contributes to sexism because it makes people less likely to object to gender; almost as if it bribes them into being passive. As a man why complain about being treated a certain way, if it involves some exclusive positives women don't get, and vice-versa.

    I am the oldest child and I never complained about being given more control, power, etc. at the expense of having to fulfil more responsibilities. This is probably a weaker example, but the dynamic is the same.

    If anyone wants to remove the negatives associated with identifying as a gender then they have to not expect the positives either.

    As I said before, the passive stupidity of parents brainwashing their poor kids into gender they perceive "harmless" ultimately leads to the suffering of EVERYONE later in life, because no one likes to be treated as a womb or meat shield, and if they do, they belong in a different society, a shall we say "historical" society.
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    (Original post by SnooFnoo)
    oh dear lord. Please research feminism and gender inequality and stop reading tumblr.

    85000 women get raped a year.

    110 men have been accused of rape falsely in the last 5 years.

    Now which is the more pressing issue?
    Where have you found the stats?
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    (Original post by SnooFnoo)
    oh dear lord. Please research feminism and gender inequality and stop reading tumblr.

    85000 women get raped a year.

    110 men have been accused of rape falsely in the last 5 years.

    Now which is the more pressing issue?
    The issue is that men are being seen as beasts who cant control their urges and it is hurting them

    Feminism
    is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common stated aim: to define, establish, and defend equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist generally self-defines as advocating for or supporting the rights and equality of women.[3] Feminist theory, which emerged from feminist movements, aims to understand the nature of gender inequality by examining women's social roles and lived experience; it has developed theories in a variety of disciplines in order to respond to issues such as the social construction of sex and gender.[4][5] Some forms of feminism have been criticized for taking into account only white, middle-class, educated perspectives. This led to the creation of ethnically specific or multiculturalist forms of feminism.[6]
    Feminist activists campaign for women's rights – such as in contract law, property, and voting – while also promoting bodily integrity, autonomy, and reproductive rights for women. Feminist campaigns are generally considered to be main force behind major historical societal changes, particularly in the West, where they are near-universally credited with having achieved women's suffrage, gender neutrality in English, equal pay for women, reproductive rights for women (including access to contraceptives and abortion), and the right to enter into contracts and own property.[7] Some feminists have worked to protect women and girls from domestic violence, sexual harassment, and sexual assault.[8][9] They have also advocated for workplace rights, including maternity leave, and against forms of discrimination against women. Feminism is mainly focused on women's issues, but author bell hooks and others have argued that, since feminism seeks gender equality, it must necessarily include men's liberation because men are also harmed by sexism and gender roles.[10]

    That makes sense...
    But so does this


    The above woman was raped but does not see it as the issue. We all acknowledge that rape happens and is perpetrated by sick men. Not all men are bad. The issue with feminists is that they fail to see that sexism exists both ways and the double standard is real















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    (Original post by SnooFnoo)
    oh dear lord. Please research feminism and gender inequality and stop reading tumblr.

    85000 women get raped a year.

    110 men have been accused of rape falsely in the last 5 years.

    Now which is the more pressing issue?
    You cannot affirm the first statistic while affirming the second.
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    (Original post by The Socktor)
    It is notable that the term "feminazi" was popularised by the American conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh; he called them that because they were pro-abortion and he believed that abortion is murder so... yeah.

    With this in mind, if you come across somebody who's pro-abortion and yet uses the term, be sure to let them know.
    Okay, will do. Ugh, this Rush guy really sounds like an arse.
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    (Original post by perspiracious)
    Women can decide for themselves. Thank you.
    I don't get. Please explain
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    (Original post by All_TheCyanide)
    "Feminazis" do you realise how ridiculous that word is and offensive to the millions who died as a result of the REAL Nazis? Feminists haven't killed millions. Stop equating a few stupid extremists to a horrendous group who murdered millions.
    I think he is using that word to distinguish the extremist Feminists from the sensible ones. The only type of Feminists that are sensible to me are the Islamic Feminists and Liberal Feminists.
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    What do we mean by extremist feminism? Any examples that have been in the news?
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    (Original post by Inexorably)
    Yeah the Women's Suffrage Movement didn't classify themselves as "separates" and had existed way before feminism got it's popularity, so no you shouldn't be thanking feminists for getting you the vote because they quite simply didn't you fool.


    I'm a feminist and I don't classify myself as 'separate' so by that logic I'm actually not a feminist?

    The Woman's Suffragette Movement quite clearly belongs to first wave feminism. If you disagree with that you've just chosen to disagree with a common historical perspective, your problem not mine.

    I also find it hilarious that most anti-feminists have a very biased definition of what actually constitutes feminism. But I'm sure that it's a sheer coincidence that every positive aspect of feminism is brushed off as 'not actually feminism', and only extreme (verging ridiculous) examples of feminism are included in their definition.


    I'm sure that this selection of what does and does not constitute feminism is completely unbiased though, right?
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    And whoever thinks we live in a society of equal opportunity needs to be shot. Or at least have some basic lessons in Psychology.


    We're all victims of prejudice whether that's our gender, sexuality, race, religion or social class. Ergh, ignorance.
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    (Original post by SnooFnoo)
    oh dear lord. Please research feminism and gender inequality and stop reading tumblr.

    85000 women get raped a year.

    110 men have been accused of rape falsely in the last 5 years.

    Now which is the more pressing issue?
    These women point out valid thoughts













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    (Original post by Twinpeaks)
    Yeah, having the right to vote has deffo done me more harm than good.
    oh for the love of christ
    2015's feminism is not 1918's feminism. what are you, 100 years behind? it's the same with the term "liberal" - in 1920, "liberal" didn't mean quasi-socialist left wing individual, it meant very right wing anti-socialist individual. that's the thing about terms - though their definitions in a dictionary may be very slow to reform, people in the real world understand that their traditional values change, sometimes radically so - with the case of feminism, it has ditched the idea of equality, or rather, legal, or equality of opportunity, and has placed "women's rights" as the top (or only, in my opinion) priority, and many of these "rights" cost the rights of men to legal equality.

    the kind of feminism today is *easily* what is known as "radical feminism" whereby legal and liberal values are not important, but, rather, "women's liberation" (liberation from what, exactly, is a huge question in my eyes), and women getting more than men unfairly, because they're "victims" , even though they're *really* not (and I'd argue it the opposite in many cases, that men are more so victims)
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    Feminism, which is actually "equality of the sexes movement" and has "femi" in his name because of history, is good.
    Women who want to have privileges and oppress men are, surprise... sexist!
 
 
 
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