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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    This is highly amusing. Anti-politics and not a one man band my ass, he should at least go up against a token candidate.
    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    As widely predicted, UKIP will now drift into nothingness, although they will be back if Cammie refuses the referendum with some complex story about having won concessions in the EU. :teehee:


    CON 36.9
    LAB 30.4
    UKIP 12.6
    LD 7.9
    SNP 4.7
    GRN 3.8

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results

    UKIP got more of the popular vote than LD and SNP. They have more voters than the lib dems. If they do drift into nothingness that is purely down to the appalling unrepresentative nature of first past the post. They are the third biggest party vote wise. Bigger than SNP by more than a factor of two yet only have 1mp compared to SNP's 56.

    Especially someone who is a Green supporter you should be pointing this out instead of rubbishing UKIP just because you don't like what they stand for.

    If UKIP are nothing Green are irrelevant as well.


    If the establishment wants to weaken SNP PR would be a good way of doing it.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    CON 36.9
    LAB 30.4
    UKIP 12.6
    LD 7.9
    SNP 4.7
    GRN 3.8

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results

    UKIP got more of the popular vote than LD and SNP. They have more voters than the lib dems. If they do drift into nothingness that is purely down to the appalling unrepresentative nature of first past the post. They are the third biggest party vote wise. Bigger than SNP by more than a factor of two yet only have 1mp compared to SNP's 56.

    Especially someone who is a Green supporter you should be pointing this out instead of rubbishing UKIP just because you don't like what they stand for.

    If UKIP are nothing Green are irrelevant as well.


    If the establishment wants to weaken SNP PR would be a good way of doing it.
    I'm in favour of PR. I agree that UKIP are chronically under-represented in Parliament compared to their percentage of the vote.

    My point was not that, but that Cameron's strategy of taking the mantle away from UKIP, by promising a referendum, appears to have worked (so far) at that end of politics and will continue to work. UKIP's failure to win seats will also mean voters have less confidence in them at future elections.

    I'm not convinced personally though that there will be a referendum as desired by the more rabid Tory-UKIP backbench anti-EU fanatics. Either it will be a watered down choice (eg, "do you approve of the proposals to modify Britain's role in the EU as proposed by David Cameron and accepted by Brussels" or simply declared no longer needed by a triumphant Dave returning from the Commission with a token set of 'wins'.

    It's about managing the political nonsense of the Ashcroft-funded insurgency in the Tory Party, not the real issues. Few voters really care about the EU. They might feel that they don't like all the E. Europeans here. That won't stop either way.
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    So Farage can't keep a promise. Shame.
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    Can't barrage the Farage.
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    This is a bit awkward. He said he would stick by his word and resign, and he managed to keep that promise for an astonishing time period of a few days.

    I can understand their reasoning, considering there's going to be an EU referendum campaign that UKIP apparently feels Farage will be needed for. I suppose as long as he resigns after the EU referendum and before the next general election he could still walk away with credibility, and a referendum campaign could test UKIP's potential future leadership candidates. But then again, he could have resigned as leader but still stayed in UKIP for the referendum campaign, couldn't he?

    Interesting to see if any more information comes out, and how Farage will justify it.
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    I don't think he went against his word. His resignation was just rejected. Anyway, glad to have him back. No matter what your views on him are, you cannot deny he adds something to British politics. Never a dull moment with Nige.
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    Someone worse could have come to replace him, maybe its not the worst thing ever...
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    Don't tell me there are actually UKIP supporters on here. You're students right? So reduce the fees: Labour or Green Party!!!!! Half of you don't understand politics UKIP are never going to help you.
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    (Original post by RFowler)

    Interesting to see if any more information comes out, and how Farage will justify it.
    In fairness you can take is explanation with a pinch of salt if you want but it's not an unreasonable one. He tendered his resignation but the party has rejected it and stated it pursued him to carry on, they want him to stay on as leader, so now he is. Waiting until autumn as he said he would (and I knew he'd be back then anyhow) and having a vote on leader just wastes time if they'll back him anyway.
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    (Original post by St. Brynjar)
    Hahahaha. He's just as bad as any other politician. Joke of a party, joke of a man.
    Still less of a joke than Bennett and the Greens.
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    (Original post by leahnesbit)
    Don't tell me there are actually UKIP supporters on here. You're students right? So reduce the fees: Labour or Green Party!!!!! Half of you don't understand politics UKIP are never going to help you.
    Not sure if satire or just plain stupidity.

    UKIP pledged to scrap tuition fees for STEM subjects anyway, so even your "satire" is inaccurate.
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    He would have won the resulting UKIP internal leadership election anyway so.. makes no difference just saves their party time and effort.
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    (Original post by St. Brynjar)
    Hahahaha. He's just as bad as any other politician. Joke of a party, joke of a man.
    completely disagree- the man is a hero, tackling the issues that have so long been ignored within our country. He has got a lot of people talking and thinking and without the UKIP's surge in popularity lately, I think that immigration would have got terribly out of hand. w a s t e m a n t i n g
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    (Original post by Kiytt)
    Not sure if satire or just plain stupidity.

    UKIP pledged to scrap tuition fees for STEM subjects anyway, so even your "satire" is inaccurate.

    ukip is simply a reincarnation of the BNP- racist lot over there
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    (Original post by Kiytt)
    Not sure if satire or just plain stupidity.

    UKIP pledged to scrap tuition fees for STEM subjects anyway, so even your "satire" is inaccurate.
    Not satire. That's great then - cut the fees for the ones who want to do science, tech, engineering or maths but not for things like English which is just as important. SUCH A GOOD IDEA DDDDD
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    (Original post by js171)
    ukip is simply a reincarnation of the BNP- racist lot over there
    Completely agree. At least someone in here has a brain.
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    (Original post by leahnesbit)
    Don't tell me there are actually UKIP supporters on here. You're students right? So reduce the fees: Labour or Green Party!!!!! Half of you don't understand politics UKIP are never going to help you.
    In which case go with Labour; the Greens would do more harm than good by increasing the fuel tax and in turn making all the groceries go up in price. Not to mention commuting to uni would be more expensive and I wouldn't be able to afford it
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    (Original post by leahnesbit)
    Not satire. That's great then - cut the fees for the ones who want to do science, tech, engineering or maths but not for things like English which is just as important. SUCH A GOOD IDEA DDDDD
    That's because there's a shortage of highly-skilled labour within the workforce for specialist jobs in the quaternary and quinary sector, i.e. software engineers, and parts of the tertiary sector, i.e. doctors.

    Christ, you don't even need an A-level in economics to figure that out. Turning on the TV should be enough.
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    (Original post by LiberalDemoprat)
    Was always going to happen. UKIP is nothing without Farage and vice versa.
    (Original post by Quantex)
    He's like one of those people who goes to X Factor auditions every year.
    lol, both true
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    (Original post by LiberalDemoprat)
    Was always going to happen. UKIP is nothing without Farage and vice versa. I just hope skybet honours my bet for him being the next permanent leader.
    Mmm your bet might be in difficult water in technicality territory.


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