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    It means that there's period blood smeared over every ****ing website I go on to.
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    (Original post by phoenixsilver)
    Who is this pig then? Because they need to be named and shamed.
    I think women need to stop acting like victims and saying they are the best at everything - imagine the outcry if men said "we are better at politics" yet women constantly claim they are better at things, multitasking, leadership, caring etc. And we have to take it!

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    The only thing that I have ever said I am better at than a man is withstanding pain. That is a stone cold scientifically proven fact.

    I agree that it's wrong for women to assume that they are better than men at certain things. Of course that's wrong, but men do it consistently too. The reason women act like victims a lot of the time is because in many cases they are. Of course there are instances when women aren't the victim but even if we're working statistically, a woman has to be a victim at least 50% of the time.
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    Angry women wanting male roles and rights.


    A bit odd really
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    (Original post by phoenixsilver)
    Who is this pig then? Because they need to be named and shamed.
    I think women need to stop acting like victims and saying they are the best at everything - imagine the outcry if men said "we are better at politics" yet women constantly claim they are better at things, multitasking, leadership, caring etc. And we have to take it!
    I'm not saying that's right, but it's obvious where it comes from. Women always get men telling them 'look, all the great historical figures are male - artists, scientists etc'. Perhaps saying 'women are better at X' is a bit of an overreaction, but it comes from a position of weakness, not strength. If you are growing up as a girl, you have virtually no historical role models, and that's counterproductive to both genders, because everyone benefits when everyone achieves their potential.

    The truth is, gender equality is a very, very recent idea, and it will take time to stabilise. Like, within living memory. I sympathise - there's no reason why our generation should be held accountable / held victim for our parents' and grandparents' mistakes - but we shouldn't throw the whole baby out of the pram just because it's not perfect yet.
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    (Original post by BlindingLight)
    It means that there's period blood smeared over every ****ing website I go on to.
    Eh, I'm not sure that that is a side effect of feminism tbh, maybe some magical perpetually menstruating creatures, but not feminism
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    (Original post by kandykissesxox)
    Angry women wanting male roles and rights.

    A bit odd really
    With the greatest of respect, that's a bit of a weird comment. What are 'male roles and rights'?
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    (Original post by Lemur12)
    I'm not saying that's right, but it's obvious where it comes from. Women always get men telling them 'look, all the great historical figures are male - artists, scientists etc'. Perhaps saying 'women are better at X' is a bit of an overreaction, but it comes from a position of weakness, not strength. If you are growing up as a girl, you have virtually no historical role models, and that's counterproductive to both genders, because everyone benefits when everyone achieves their potential.

    The truth is, gender equality is a very, very recent idea, and it will take time to stabilise. Like, within living memory. I sympathise - there's no reason why our generation should be held accountable / held victim for our parents' and grandparents' mistakes - but we shouldn't throw the whole baby out of the pram just because it's not perfect yet.
    We had an assembly last year where we were celebrating female inventions and we had to go on and on about mediocre things like tippex after we ran out of the view real "inventions".
    Obviously there is no problem with celebrating individuals of either gender for their achievements but celebrating mediocre achievements only lowers the standard for those people.
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    Isn't feminism just a way to say girl power, only intellectually.

    I don't know if it comes out as trolling but I'm srs.
    And I don't know the definition as well so... (The posts in the thread are too long )
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    (Original post by york_wbu)
    Like I said, feminists often ignore the problems men face. The word pussy, for example, is much more often used on men than women as a form of peer pressure. Feminists complaining about social inequalities is a large part of the cause of hundreds of thousands of boys being put on ritalin, to make them conform to less boy-like behaviour.

    I think what a lot of feminists don't accept is that men and women are fundamentally different, it's not just society that makes them different. There will be a difference in the distribution of genders in certain jobs/subjects and a difference in behavior. There is a much bigger difference, genetically, between men and women, compared to different races.
    Why do you think that it is mainly men who are called pussies? Because mens expectations of women are that they are feeble and weak? Oh what it's only an insult if you're a man to be called feeble and weak.

    The problem is that in buying into these stereotypes, it gives little room for individualism and very little respect for the range of difference between people in each gender. And those who are disimilar to their stereotyped gender in some way or another, they are shamed, bullied and ridiculed into behaving/conforming in a way that is more acceptable for other people. Being called a pussy as a man or that a physically strong woman is somehow disgusting and undesirable does not give incentive for people to be freely themselves.

    People really underestimate the power of socialisation which includes the huge negative pressure to conform which distorts the nature vs nurture picture when it comes to gender.



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    (Original post by Lemur12)
    With the greatest of respect, that's a bit of a weird comment. What are 'male roles and rights'?
    they want political power and equality basically
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    (Original post by kandykissesxox)
    Angry women wanting male roles and rights.


    A bit odd really
    This made me chuckle

    Male roles? Shared roles. Traditionally did you know that pink was a male colour? Too robust for women apparently, but then Hitler places pink triangles on homosexual individuals in Nazi Germany and it becomes all the rage that pink is ultimately female.

    I think the point that my exhausted brain is trying to make is that colours, roles and rights shouldn't be categorised as male/female. Just human.

    You want to be a physicist and you're female? Be a female physicist

    You want the right to be annoyed and passionate about something without being told you're on your period? We don't have that yet

    Angry women, well, some feminists are very angry people. I'm just super passionate about what I believe in and misandrism (belief that men are inferior to women/hatred of men) is a pet hate of mine. If I come across as an angry woman, then I apologise ☺️
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    (Original post by sfairy27)
    This made me chuckle

    Male roles? Shared roles. Traditionally did you know that pink was a male colour? Too robust for women apparently, but then Hitler places pink triangles on homosexual individuals in Nazi Germany and it becomes all the rage that pink is ultimately female.

    I think the point that my exhausted brain is trying to make is that colours, roles and rights shouldn't be categorised as male/female. Just human.

    You want to be a physicist and you're female? Be a female physicist

    You want the right to be annoyed and passionate about something without being told you're on your period? We don't have that yet

    Angry women, well, some feminists are very angry people. I'm just super passionate about what I believe in and misandrism (belief that men are inferior to women/hatred of men) is a pet hate of mine. If I come across as an angry woman, then I apologise ☺️
    This is too long to read on top of that I'm sleepy. Don't grill me for participating in the thread, I may have said something inaccurate or offensive. I'll probably figure it out in the morning :-)
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    (Original post by sfairy27)
    This made me chuckle

    Male roles? Shared roles. Traditionally did you know that pink was a male colour? Too robust for women apparently, but then Hitler places pink triangles on homosexual individuals in Nazi Germany and it becomes all the rage that pink is ultimately female.

    I think the point that my exhausted brain is trying to make is that colours, roles and rights shouldn't be categorised as male/female. Just human.

    You want to be a physicist and you're female? Be a female physicist

    You want the right to be annoyed and passionate about something without being told you're on your period? We don't have that yet

    Angry women, well, some feminists are very angry people. I'm just super passionate about what I believe in and misandrism (belief that men are inferior to women/hatred of men) is a pet hate of mine. If I come across as an angry woman, then I apologise ☺️
    We also have "Oh you want to be a female physicist? I'm going to give you a grant to get through university and then enable you to get a job even though there are better qualified male candidates just because you're a woman and we have quotas to fill."
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    (Original post by LeyK)
    Isn't feminism just a way to say girl power, only intellectually.

    I don't know if it comes out as trolling but I'm srs.
    And I don't know the definition as well so... (The posts in the thread are too long )
    Sorry I tend to write really long paragraphs, it's a bad habit 😂 Feminism is a movement for the equality of the sexes basically, but because women were always the traditionally 'inferior' sex and so the original goal was for their equality it is often seen as a movement only for women 😄
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    How about this I just read today?

    "
    It is for this reason that both perpetrator and victim enter a conspiracy of silence and why male survivors often find, once their story is discovered, that they lose the support and comfort of those around them. In the patriarchal societies found in many developing countries, gender roles are strictly defined.

    "In Africa no man is allowed to be vulnerable," says RLP's gender officer Salome Atim. "You have to be masculine, strong. You should never break down or cry. A man must be a leader and provide for the whole family. When he fails to reach that set standard, society perceives that there is something wrong."Often, she says, wives who discover their husbands have been raped decide to leave them.

    "They ask me: 'So now how am I going to live with him? As what? Is this still a husband? Is it a wife?' They ask, 'If he can be raped, who is protecting me?' There's one family I have been working closely with in which the husband has been raped twice. When his wife discovered this, she went home, packed her belongings, picked up their child and left. Of course that brought down this man's heart."

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...he-rape-of-men

    Ye, gender roles don;t ever effect men negatively :rolleyes:

    You get raped and then abandoned by your wife who takes way your children.
    I didn't say that they didn't affect men. But there are more female victims of rape and as I said before, if somehing is happening more to one set of people than another, you need to prioritise your resources in order of urgency and frequency and ability to close the gap between the populations the most.

    If you want to improve the performance of a sales team you focus on improving the the largest average performing group rather than concentrating the on improving the top 5 performers. The larger population makes the most difference overall.

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    (Original post by Poole & The Gang)
    We also have "Oh you want to be a female physicist? I'm going to give you a grant to get through university and then enable you to get a job even though there are better qualified male candidates just because you're a woman and we have quotas to fill."
    Yeah no.

    You want to be a female physicist? You work damn hard and you ensure that you ace Maths, Further Maths, Physics and whatever other A Levels you need to study Physics in University. You prove that you are intelligent enough so that no one questions how hard you worked to get to where you are today.

    Get your Masters, get your PhD. Don't let anyone try to say that you haven't worked as hard as any man to achieve what you have.

    What you're trying to say is that a woman coasts it through university doing science being female. What about her name as a scientist when she gets out of university? Do you not think that she'll have to work harder to prove herself because of people like you who assume that she has done nothing to get where she is? Oh please
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    (Original post by Poole & The Gang)
    We also have "Oh you want to be a female physicist? I'm going to give you a grant to get through university and then enable you to get a job even though there are better qualified male candidates just because you're a woman and we have quotas to fill."
    Why do you assume that she isn't well qualified and that she got the grant just because she is a woman. That is a lot of the stuff we have to out up with. Undermining our abilities. Perhaps she is a gifted physician and because it is rare to have women in the profession, she is used to help encourage other women to join the profession and is given the funding to do so. She is still subject to all of the tests and exams that men have to complete.

    I really despair.

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    (Original post by sfairy27)
    Sorry I tend to write really long paragraphs, it's a bad habit 😂 Feminism is a movement for the equality of the sexes basically, but because women were always the traditionally 'inferior' sex and so the original goal was for their equality it is often seen as a movement only for women 😄
    Lol, You must work on that since there are lazy idiots like me

    So there's feminism for equality of women (your words). misomething for hatred of men (soz for not recalling the word ), sexism for stereotypes and there should be one for girl power unless it is feminism and people use 'equality' as a false wall (your mind is blown right )
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    I remember reading a tweet from a 'feminist' who said consensual sex is rape.

    Bizarre, I know and I know these weirdos are a minority.

    Anyway, feminism is equality for all. However it has been hijacked and I do hope the voice of everyone of us who want equal rights for women (particularly in 3rd world countries) will be heard over the few psychos that tend to get the most attention.
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    (Original post by sfairy27)
    Yeah no.

    You want to be a female physicist? You work damn hard and you ensure that you ace Maths, Further Maths, Physics and whatever other A Levels you need to study Physics in University. You prove that you are intelligent enough so that no one questions how hard you worked to get to where you are today.

    Get your Masters, get your PhD. Don't let anyone try to say that you haven't worked as hard as any man to achieve what you have.

    What you're trying to say is that a woman coasts it through university doing science being female. What about her name as a scientist when she gets out of university? Do you not think that she'll have to work harder to prove herself because of people like you who assume that she has done nothing to get where she is? Oh please
    I know that where I live they have a grant specifically for women to do STEM courses. I know that companies have female quotas they have to fill. I know that on my A-level physics course they let in a girl who didn't get the required GCSE grade but rejected a boy who got exactly the same grade because there were no other girls on the course.
    There are no problems with women doing what they want, but making it easier for one group of people to do something over another is discrimination.
 
 
 
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